Angry at house seller?

Taking radiators is really not on!!! The cost of changing and a plumber fitting all the radiators and rebalancing the heating must be pretty expensive. But essentially If I look round a house that I am buying I expect the heating situation to be the same as when I looked!!! I'd consider radiators as part of the fabric of the house!

The mirror is fine for them to take though.

When my parents bought their current house (as a young couple with 2 babies), the seller took everything. I mean everything - including all the carpets and every lightbulb.

Yes, really.

I agree! But that doesn't change the fact that the sellers can take those 'fancy bits' with them as long as they're honest about it. And the buyers can pull out or reduce their offer accordingly. I would be annoyed if it happened to me but I'd have to accept it and decide if I still wanted to go ahead.

Agree with this. I think if op has knocked money off, that the sellers are kind of getting their own back.

My son was advised to remove anything he wanted to take with him on the sell of his property before putting it on the market, so he removed his heated bathroom mirror and lighting system replacing with basic before viewings started.
My sister in law had a fireplace cowl, they told every viewer that it would be going with them when they moved out.
The day of signing contract the buyers threatened to cancel if the cowl didn’t stay.
Refuse to sign unless stuff that is fixed to a wall or ceiling stays.

Op did you ask? At every viewing we asked what fixtures were staying. Then follow up with this in writing and then check the contract before exchange. You must do your own due diligence. There was one property and they were taking out 3 fixtures which made us not make an offer because their house was average without them.

I agree in theory, but £50k is stretching it a bit….

@MyHazelOtter who takes carpets and door handles?!?

The radiators are fixed, part of the house. If they were to be removed you should have been told before the offer was made. What next, they want to take the windows etc. have they got another house lined up where the radiators will fit … a bit unlikely. In the current market it’s a buyers market. “ in view of the incorrect information supplied at the time the offer was made (no mention of…….. being not included in the purchase) a revise offer of £xxxx lower than our previous offer is being made”

The radiators are difficult, to replace with radiators that have the SAME heat output, will mean replumbing, moving of pipes, perhaps to unsightly positions. Also you would need to insist onan insurance backed guarantee for the new plumbing work, should you agree.

its not just the aesthetics, iTs the technical side of things … the wrong replacement radiators might mean a cold house.

Blinds or curtains, even lights are ok to take with you.
Radiators?!? That’s crazy.
And removing them might well create a hell of a lot of problems too - like damage to the wall/paint/wallpaper.
The bathroom mirror. I can see where they’re coming from. I can also this will mean you’ll likely need to redecorate the bathroom.

We viewed a beautiful house and were told the curtains carpets light fittings even fancy door handles were be left for us. Each time we spoke they said one thing after the other was not be left after all. We asked our solicitor to write to theirs and get a list of what was being taken. When the solicitor posted the list to me I could have cried. They were leaving us with four walls. I phoned our solicitor and said we wanted to pull out and he said it was the right decision. One day before exchange. They made all sorts of offers but we felt so cheated

I would just pull out, bet they will soon change their mind.

And don’t forget to include making good costs to the decoration, as they won’t be installing radiators exactly the same size, so there will be marks on the wall that need redecoration and potentially issues with the flooring too.

I think the problem is that the legal position is no you can’t take them because a house needs radiators and if you do it is your responsibly to replace them

the problem here is of course that they are going to replace them with radiators

it is about having a working central heating system which they are also going to do they are legally obliged to do that but I don’t think they are saying they aren’t

It is beyond weird and stingy to take radiators with you. YANBU.

I’d be taking £50,000 off the offer price to cover the replaying of everything that’s being removed and also the work and the upheaval and mess that it will cause!!

They shouldn’t have to offer a price for radiators that was there at the viewing, radiators are part of the fixtures. Blinds, curtains etc yes.

I can understand them wanting to take things they have chosen and loved. If you think you feel the same about the items then I think I would make a decent offer so that they can replace the items in their new house without going to the bother and expense of removing and replacing them.

Radiators are classed as fixtures as they are part of the central heating system!!

The cost of removing them from one house, replacing, and reinstalling in new house @ £90 ph for a plumber probably won’t come out any different from buying new ones.

Don't be daft. A house needing £ks of work to bring it up to the standard it was when the buyers offered on it is not worth as much as the same house needing no work. That's not "swayed by the fancy bits", that's just cold hard economics.

It's not "the extras", it's part of the house and the difference would be measured in thousands or tens of thousands, and an offer made accordingly. Houses in good decorative order are worth more than those that aren't, all else being equal.

I would imagine it is against the contract to change radiators anyway.

??? How can you possibly compare vases of flowers to radiators?! 😂