Angry at house seller?

Omg just seen that!! Definitely not what I was expecting 🫣 this is exactly what we mean when we're worried about how "outing" our posts can be. Never seen it actually happen tho.

It's not unusual to take light fittings but radiators is very unusual

Respectfully, OP can want to keep anything that she likes, and presenting this to the solicitor is the best path. Importantly to me, I don't like being even an anonymous target of a social media take down. I have never deprecated anyone online, I think it is ugly. Being called a cheeky fucker etc: it's really not my thing and I don't like that it has been ushered into my life. It is very 'mumsnet' however.

I thought it best to advise OP to speak to her solicitor and to let her know that I am aware of this thread, that's all.

Ask the seller, they are on the thread now!!!

Oh please don't take this down mumsnet, this is bloody brilliant, better than traitors - there's a Netflix series in this!

Yeah if I liked the house how I saw it, I would be annoyed that they would be taking part of what sold it to me. It also seems a bit of a waste for them to refit radiators that you don't want, which you might end up changing anyway! Could you get them to refit radiators of your choice instead/ask for similar radiators to what is already there? I honestly think this should have been mentioned before any sales went though so you know exactly what you're getting.

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Surprised about the radiators as they may not fit in their next house -radiator sizes have a calculation- and there’s also all the pipe work - would seem more sensible to offer them to OP for an additional sum…..

I do hope mumsnet don't take this down, its just turned very interesting!

Assuming the poster who is the vendor is genuine, a fiver says the sales off!!

You are the type of seller that takes all the lightbulbs and door handles, number off the door etc! Radiators are part of the central heating system and also not like taking a mirror off a wall!! Anyone taking them AFTER they have got a buyer and replacing them with cheap basic ones is extremely unreasonable. Why would a buyer pay extra for things like used radiators too? Are you going to try and sell them the used boiler or the wiring in the walls too?

OP is the vendors response is real I would pull out of this sale.

if they really wanted to keep the radiators they should have removed them and replaced them with the cheap ones before the photos were taken.

I think this will be a very difficult process with a very difficult party. I would start looking. For another house. They will not be easy to
work with

If you really are the vendor, I hope the @perfectpotato pulls out of the sale. OP has already offered for the house, she certainly shouldn't be offering you MORE to keep the fixtures she thought would come with the house! You're a cheeky fucker!

#TeamSeller

Blimey, there's a turn up for the books, the vendor has joined the party 😀

Hi there @perfectpotato . I am a little surprised at this thread. It is better to just consult your solicitor on these matters.

Anything you want to keep, you can just make offers on. In this case you are planning to do extensive work to the property, I have sold property before, and seen fixtures I thought were great in a skip within a few weeks. These radiators were gifted to me, and so rather than see that happen, I stated I would take them.

It's curious you like the pendant light. As you know, the house has been tenanted and every tenant had taken them down because they didn't like them. I assumed it was something that was just to my taste, so said I would take them. Same with the bluetooth mirror - no one else fussed about it at all.

You didn't mention the things I have done that sellers hardly do - like the recent flushing of the boiler so you'd have no problems moving in mid-winter. I'll persevere in fighting off that sense of regret.

I don't feel good about this thread at all. I took your call when most sellers wouldn't, talked to you about the area, answered all sorts of questions. I didn't need to do any of that, so it leaves a sour taste.

Like I say, better to just contact your solicitor than write a very identifying post on mumsnet.

Take care now.

We must live in areas with very different approaches. I have bought three houses, and my parents are developers so have flipped dozens of houses.

i have never heard of anyone sweeping our radiators. They are pretty standard as fixtures and fittings that stay.

infact are radiators even a thing on the fixtures and fittings list? It’s like saying you are replacing the boiler with a basic one. Really odd

The problem with assuming the property will look exactly as is when the sale is complete is that even the most stringent survey doesn’t include, for example, moving furniture. I moved into a house with a gaping hole in the chimney breast, doors that didn’t shut, and loose skirting because all had been hidden by furnishings on viewing and during the survey. I’m not saying any of that was even deliberate, but it’s a problem that only becomes visible late on.

But OP found out they intend to take them because they are in the sales documentation

The point of the form is to dispel any assumptions - seller says what they intend to take, buyer can dispute then both sides negotiate. The buyer will need to negotiate if they think there’s a cost of returning the rads to what they saw on viewing. But you can’t just say ‘you can’t take them’. The options are to negotiate or pull out. And yes certificates of works should be included in any negotiation.

LOL half the decor in my parents house today was there when they moved in in 1987!

Yes of course. It was in response to various suggestions like "if it's in the pictures it's included". Also "if you turn your house upside down and it doesn't fall out it's included" (which is also too simplistic eg I have a fitted desk built into an alcove which i would probably take).

But anyway it's weird to take radiators. But it's not misleading, the whole point of the list is you say what you're taking before you enter into the contract. It's just annoying and weird

Do you really not see the difference between a bed and a radiator?

I would go back to your solicitor, radiators are considered fixtures and should have been mentioned in sales document if they weren't to be included?

So that's what the fixtures and fittings form is for, to let the buyer know if the vendor proposes to take fixtures. The very fact that the form is routinely used demonstrates that is is routine for vendors to take fixtures with them when they move.

I wouldn't call radiators fixtures tbh and aid not accept them taking those.

Light fittings, OK but again aren't they part of the appeal of the house?

I'd talk to your solicitor. Ask if they'd leave as is for an additional £.

If you don't want to proceed pull out now.

These things belong to them, they want to keep them. Fair enough.