Angry at house seller?

I don't think it's common to take the radiators. When you viewed the house, you expected the radiators to be included and now there will be a cost to reinstating them or you are buying a house with inferior radiator fittings. Either you reduce the price that you're willing to pay or you make sure that you see the radiators in place before you exchange to ensure that you're happy with the house as it is.

When I was buying a house, the sellers wanted to take the handles from the fitted wardrobes with them - that's when we pulled out. It was just ridiculous.

As a previous seller, I wouldn't dream of taking them with me, I may ask for extra optional for something very expensive, it seems mean spirited but I suppose depends on how much you got off the asking price, ie if you have got a very good deal, then I get why they are doing it I suppose

As long as you know beforehand that's how it goes. If you've spent a lot of money on items and want to take them with you then the buyer can add their own. Tbh though I haven't come across this but I can imagine it's quite common. Xxx

Id be pissed off with the radiators going, and the light fittings. If they showed u the house with the Bluetooth mirror etc how were u to know they would be removed? That really needs to be stated when actually viewing the house. I'd speak to ur estate agent, and drop ur price by a grand!

outrageous and greedy to be taking radiatiators and possibly illegal.Talk to agent and solicitor.
Good luck

So buy another and wire it in!

I absolutely agree with you, things you change to improve your house such as lights fancy plug sockets blinds, kitchen handles etc should stay it is valued on its presentation.
Even appliances if they're integrated I would leave. Why would they take the bathroom mirror, if it's screwed into tiles and has a wire to it i would be demanding it was left as you have no option to replace to cover the damage.
They are behaving like they're moving out of a rental!

It should be stated on the agent's particulars that these items are not included and should be made obvious to interested parties. All fixtures and fittings are part of the offer price and should be stated clearly or removed before advertising: What you see is What You Get. You would not go into a shop and buy goods not packaged clearly, i.e. the bag/wrapping is extra. That is utterly stupid and against the Sale of Goods Act! Why are house sales any different?

Why don’t you offer to buy them?

As others have said I would expect that to be specifically stated before offer stage as radiators are fixtures. Lights are not and easily changeable. I’d offer extra to keep the radiators but I do think it’s off they’re going to all the faff of removing them. It’s only then you realise that not everyone thinks the way you do. The posters saying you think it’s weird that you’d be expecting to keep the radiators, what planet are you on?! No house I’ve ever purchased has ever taken radiators, even antique ones because they are fixtures. It’s unfair once an offer has been put in and fees are being paid legally, to then say you’re taking them. Makes me feel like it’s a move for them to get more money from you, but I could be wrong.

This should have been mentioned at time of viewing, I’d be upset to and revising my offer.

I think I'd pull out

Reduce your offer price by the cost of reinstating to that level including fitting. If they were going to take them they should have made that clear before you made an offer.

I'd be seriously reconsidering the whole purchase though as these sorts of sellers strike me as potentially being massively PITAS.

I’ll bet the radiator ps are listed in the property details and should definitely stay. Tell them if they want to take these things you will reduce your offer or withdraw. You would be totally reasonable.

She hasn't bought anything yet. She's had an offer accepted.

Now she's found out she won't be getting what she thought when she made the offer, so she needs to rethink what the house if worth to her.

Obviously if she pays what she originally offered but gets less for it she'd be overpaying. So she needs to recalculate what the house is worth to her in the state the seller intends to leave it and offer that amount instead.

I really don't understand the people who seem to think a buyer is obliged to pay whatever they originally offered regardless of what new information they may get. A buyer obviously isn't going to be happy to spend the same amount on a lesser purchase - it's weird anyone would think that is reasonable.

Hopefully what you will take from this thread is that if you do plan to remove your rads when you sell, you either do it before viewings or are 100% upfront during viewings about your plans and what the buyer will actually be getting vs what they may see at the viewing. Otherwise you are likely to fnd yourself in the same boat.

My cousin did this. Took all the fixtures from the house including the door handles! I thought she was a cheeky cow and told her I thought that was a pretty poor thing to do to the new owners. She said well we paid for them and they weren't cheap so we want them in the new house. She was genuinely upset she couldn't take her custom made marble fireplace with her (the house didn't originally have a fireplace, she got it put in for show). Madness.

She's already made them an offer based on what she thought it was worth in the way that it was presented, she should absolutely not offer more.

What she needs to do is reduce the offer based on the value of the radiators and labour to bring the house back to the standard it was when placing the offer.

It’s totally normal. I sadly had to sell a house with so many fittings to seal the deal. They were so pushy. All curtains blinds kitchen table and chairs and all the lights bar two chandeliers I refused on. It was in 2010 in the recession very tough time to sell. You will just have to source similar.

To me, you view the home and take as seen. So, if they then want to change anything last moment I’d be pulling out of the sale deal as it’s not what I viewed or agreed to.

I genuinely can’t imagine taking radiators with me when we move house. I’d be flabbergasted if that came back. Same with wall fitted sconces. The cabinet I can kind of understand but I understand why it’s ripped you over the edge re the rads and lights.

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How many times have people aaying it's fine seen people take radiators?
Would you be happy with kitchen unit swap from what you saw to basic different looking ones? How about swapping front doors from nice to basic ones?
It's generally expected that certain things stay. Especially things hard to eplace exactly.

If something that major, as radiators, door, built in furniture goes, it should be made clear in viewings. Offer usually reflects the overal state of house and basic house equipment such as boiler, rads, build in furnitire, plumbing and so on.

No I disagree, the offer you made rationally included the fixtures- if the vendor wants to take them then I would say your offer should be reduced.
We were buying an old house with some lovely features twenty years ago and when we received the particulars they stated that the vendors were taking (the lovely vintage glass) doorknobs. Also the carpets (up until then part of the sale). We refused to proceed on these terms- it was quickly resolved in our favour.

Unless it is in the EA blurb everything in the pictures should be included in the offer price. No ifs ands and buts. To me everything apart from loose stuff (i.e. towels, clothes, curtains) is included. If it is screwed to any part of the house/structure, i.e. flooring, curtain rails, light fittings, fireplace, aga, kitchen fittings, radiators, extractors, plants, garden arches etc, i.e. anything not easily picked up and carried without a screwdriver, is included in the sale offer price. Anything portable that needs a screwdriver or any implement to remove, is not included. Full stop. Our very good Solicitor makes this part of the Contract, which is always a bespoke one. He charges a little bit more but it always pays off and has phoned us on a Saturday morning to point things out which we have missed in our survey. Worth more than his fees to be honest.

Just make them an offer to leave them.