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Angry at house seller?

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perfectpotato · 18/10/2025 17:17

Had our offer accepted, in the middle of the legal process and we’ve had got the fixtures and fittings form from the vendors.

They are taking with them all the column radiators (will be replacing with basic ones), all light fixtures - they had these beautiful sconce marble light fixtures that they will be taking and they are have a fixed mirror in the bathroom, has Bluetooth and different lighting and they are taking that too.

My partner doesn’t seem bothered but I’m really upset, Aibu?

OP posts:
Ladygardenerinderby · 19/10/2025 19:01

Slightly suprised at the radiators but we have the column ones and they are really expensive so probably cheaper for them to pay a plumber to put standard ones in and take the others with them but I can’t believe you thought they’d leave everything else which sounds quite high end . That’s what the fixtures n fittings list is for or ask when you view

JohnBullshit · 19/10/2025 18:52

Laurmolonlabe · 19/10/2025 18:49

Why were you thinking they would leave them?
It's obvious you were told at the viewing they would be swopping out the radiators- under those circumstances how could it be reasonable for you to expect them to be left? A mirror would never be left unless it was built in- so that is not reasonable either.

Why is that obvious? I can't see that from OP's posts.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 19/10/2025 18:52

A mirror would never be left unless it was built in- so that is not reasonable either.

A light up wired in bathroom mirror is different from a regular mirror and should not be treated as the same thing. And as a PP said, using the bathroom before another mirror is installed is potentially a safety issue.

Laurmolonlabe · 19/10/2025 18:49

Why were you thinking they would leave them?
It's obvious you were told at the viewing they would be swopping out the radiators- under those circumstances how could it be reasonable for you to expect them to be left? A mirror would never be left unless it was built in- so that is not reasonable either.

JohnBullshit · 19/10/2025 18:48

I too would pull out of the sale unless offered a reduction reflecting the loss of value and the inconvenience of making good the alterations. I know some buyers like to redecorate to their own tastes. Your vendors evidently do, and to be charitable may assume you will be of a similar mind. For my part, if a house looks good enough to move straight into, that's what I want to do, and dicking around with the fixtures throws that out of the window.
Actually, unless I was very keen on a particular house that it would be hard to substitute for another in the right area, I would probably walk regardless. I would expect that sort of thing to be made crystal clear before I made an offer. I don't give a shit about fancy radiators, but that would make me feel they wouldn't hesitate to try and con me in another department.

Blades2 · 19/10/2025 18:47

lol when my ex and I bought in 2017 the guy took everything, even the toilet seats 🤣

Nanatobethatsme46 · 19/10/2025 18:45

Yes! Cheeky !
You are buying their house not their house and contents
If you like their fixtures and fittings so much make a note and buy them yourself for the house

FrodoBiggins · 19/10/2025 18:44

Wrenjay · 19/10/2025 18:42

When you sell a property you have to list everything that is staying or you are taking with you. It is part and parcel of the Conveyancing Contract. If the seller takes things that are stated on the form to be left behind then they are in breach of the contract and you can take action. Before Exchange you can negotiate all the items that COULD be removed: kitchen appliances, light fittings etc.

The seller here included in that form that they're taking the current radiators.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 19/10/2025 18:43

perfectpotato · 18/10/2025 17:25

Because they are fixtures - who takes radiators with them?

You will have made an offer on the usual understanding that fixtures and fittings will be left with the house. You are fully justified in reducing your offer in proportion.

Wrenjay · 19/10/2025 18:42

When you sell a property you have to list everything that is staying or you are taking with you. It is part and parcel of the Conveyancing Contract. If the seller takes things that are stated on the form to be left behind then they are in breach of the contract and you can take action. Before Exchange you can negotiate all the items that COULD be removed: kitchen appliances, light fittings etc.

Allergictoironing · 19/10/2025 18:41

Imo these things may have recently been added to the persons’ selling of the house to make it look nicer??

Yes, they may well have added the items to make the house more saleable or at a higher price. But it's more saleable and/or at the higher price purely and simply BECAUSE those items are there, once they are gone then the higher price is no longer justified.

Mostunexpected · 19/10/2025 18:41

If I'd made an offer based on the house in that condition, I'd be reducing it by the amount to get it to the standard it was when I made my offer. I'd never expect they'd leave mirrors but who the hell takes the radiators? That is absolutely ridiculous.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 19/10/2025 18:40

This thread is a good reminder that the house selling and buying process in the UK needs to be reformed. So many ways it could be improved to stop misunderstandings, gazumping and the kind of fuckwittery that generally abounds.

RawBloomers · 19/10/2025 18:39

housethatbuiltme · 19/10/2025 17:17

Ive seen that it was common to take carpets in the past too but it is bloody weird. Unless you are moving into an identical floor plan house they wont fit.

Like even where I grew up where semi detached neighboring houses where near identical they still wouldn't fit as the layout was mirrored so 'reversed'.

Many years ago my friends parents did a council house swap, everything like carpets, curtains, blinds, light fittings etc... where suppose to be left but they showed up to a completely gutted house and because they had been told that stuff must be left they had nothing to replace them and where really low income so for ages had no curtains and just bare bulbs etc...

It used to be common to take carpets because they weren’t fitted. Until the 70s/80s carpets were basically big rugs and there’d be a foot or so of bare floorboards (which is why, in older houses, if you take the carpets up you may find the floor has a painted border).

angela1952 · 19/10/2025 18:37

Overnightoats1 · 19/10/2025 18:31

A friend bought a house with a beautiful garden - a key selling point of the property - the seller decided to dig up and take most of the plants .. very weird behaviour! The radiators going with them is also weird behaviour...

Taking garden plants is actually not allowed as they are normally included in the sale contract unless the buyer was advised before exchange that this would happen. Plants in containers can be taken though.

angela1952 · 19/10/2025 18:35

Wrenjay · 19/10/2025 18:09

It should be stated on the agent's particulars that these items are not included and should be made obvious to interested parties. All fixtures and fittings are part of the offer price and should be stated clearly or removed before advertising: What you see is What You Get. You would not go into a shop and buy goods not packaged clearly, i.e. the bag/wrapping is extra. That is utterly stupid and against the Sale of Goods Act! Why are house sales any different?

Some things such as fitted kitchens are obviously included, but others such as appliances and light fittings are not and do need to be listed in the official paperwork before exchange if the buyer wants them. But I agree that it's irritating, they can make a big difference to the look of a property and be expensive to replace.
Personally I'd expect fitted mirrors to be left, but we had a buyer who took fixed bathroom mirrors, fitted bathroom towel rails (not radiators) and toilet roll holders.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 19/10/2025 18:33

This thread has just prompted me to get up and look at my radiators. I don't have central heating with a boiler, but stand-alone plug in electric radiators of some fancy design that are programmable. My seller could easily have just unplugged them and taken them out - of course they didn't because they were normal sensible people, but it would have been perfectly possible and I might not even have noticed for quite a while that they were gone!

Overnightoats1 · 19/10/2025 18:31

A friend bought a house with a beautiful garden - a key selling point of the property - the seller decided to dig up and take most of the plants .. very weird behaviour! The radiators going with them is also weird behaviour...

Tiredofwhataboutery · 19/10/2025 18:31

I would be surprised about radiators too. I suspect removing and fitting alternatives could leave walls in a mess. I put in new radiators recently and there’s a lot of redecorating needed.

itbemay1 · 19/10/2025 18:30

I would go back and say you’ll pull out if they take the radiators. I bet they’ll change their mind. Madness. Just trying it on

SideshowItchy · 19/10/2025 18:27

Vaxtable · 18/10/2025 18:19

The are leaving the rads, just not the ones you want

could be they are moving somewhere they can’t afford to rebut so want to take everything, and why not.

you can either offer them something to leave it, so they can buy again, or accept and but and replace yourself

No, they are not leaving THE rads, they are leaving some random rads.

dsndonna · 19/10/2025 18:26

Depends if fixtures and fittings were included in the sale.

LynneCH · 19/10/2025 18:26

Imo these things may have recently been added to the persons’s selling of the house to make it look nicer?? They probs not had the radiators long n thought nope them bad boys are coming along with is.
doesn't sit right though, as for the mirror ask where that is from, all my sconce lights are just screwed on, no electric needed as i just bought rechargeable bulbs, could they be the same ones??

mendora · 19/10/2025 18:23

Fixtures are included in the sale UNLESS the seller has specifically identified any fixtures he/she intends to remove. If you agreed a price without the seller having identified fixtures to be removed then you should be seeking a price reduction to reflect what you are "losing". Obviously it's a matter for negotiation but the seller cannot randomly select fittings to remove if the sale price has been agreed.

boredofbirmigham · 19/10/2025 18:23

when i bough my house the took ALL and i mean all! even the light bulbs .... she said if you want i can leave all the furniture etc for £10.000 extra .... i said no thanks :) radiators ... i bet they bough expensive ones and fiar enough they want to take them ... that can backfire on them ... but you could ask if they could leave them and in the meawhile check the price for same new ones and see what they say

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