To wonder if the rise in gender confusion is due to

I blame the vaccines. If not the vaccines, then it’s definitely Keir Starmer’s fault.

I think that sometimes it’s better to just nod and say that’s nice dear now what shall we have for dinner. Nothing to rebel against, keep them busy and off screens and a lot of these fads will die a quiet death.

Our high school is actually really decent about this sort of thing, kids can use unisex (self contained loos) there are unisex changing rooms with cubicles if unwilling to use the communal changing room for your sex. Teachers roll eyes about the weekly name changes from some pupils, it’s almost weaponised. Other kids don’t care but it’s not a bullying thing.

It’s sort of quietly dying a death. We are country bumpkins though, I suspect farmers kids have a more solid grasp on biology than urbanites.

Simple answer: autistic teenagers living online and the resulting meme-like spread of gender ideology. Anime / gaming avatars / furry culture / dragon fandoms are the gateway drug as it were. This quickly leads to darker spaces and pornography. For middle-aged men it's a heady mix of sissy porn / AGP (and autism to a smaller degree) plus narcissistic traits. Plus sometimes a genuine reluctance to see themselves as gay / bisexual due to homophobia (internal and / or environmental).

@IronSpam wrt autism there is a link to eating disorders that is physiological rather than psychological in terms of identifying bodily states - cold, hunger, pain etc. DS2 had a high pain threshold that lead to medical staff not recognising perforated ear drum, prolapsed bowel and severe tonsillitis on initial presentation prior to examination because he seemed OK. This inability to recognise bodily states also means he has difficulty recognising hunger or feeling full.

It’s also common for young autistic people to feel they don’t fit in with non autistic peers (regardless of sex) prior to puberty and believe they are alien. Gender, feminity and masculinity are social constructs and very confusing for those with a social communication disorder. If you are biologically male but feel different to other boys where gender identity is key, then maybe you are really a girl even if you don’t feel like a girl either. And vice versa.

Gender identity is a social construct. I don’t have one. I don’t feel female and don’t even know what that means. I didn’t fit the gender stereotype of my youth and definitely don’t fit the current surgically altered gender stereotype but I am biologically female and this has impacted on life chances (combined with social class), effected how others view me and on my life experiences in child bearing and rearing.

There’s more money to be made convincing children and parents that their children are trans rather than gay.

It is also a social contagion that some parents jump on so that their child who doesn’t fit in with their peers can have a ready made group.

It also fits the groomer’s dream of having a generation of young people who accept their autogynepholia.

I think a lot of it is down to rigid gender norms leading to children thinking they are the opposite to their actual sex if they like the "wrong" things.

When DS1 was a baby (born 2004) most baby toys were bright, primary colours. Red/blue/yellow/green.
When i had DS2 2 years later they were nearly all available in a "boys" version (blue and green) and a girls version (pink and purple)
So many of my friends said how lucky I was to have a second boy as it meant I didn't need to re-buy everything in pink like they did. Absolutely mad!

I've known about oestrogens in the water and plastics for years. I don't think it has any connection to trans stuff but it does show up in physical ways. Far more men nowadays have moobs and also you see alot of men who have very curvy hips when they really shouldn't have any at all.

Definitely nothing to do with sissy porn and men getting off on the ‘humiliation’ of presenting as women who are obviously inferior beings who exist only to benefit them and have no human rights of their own. Of course it is only the label on the toilet door that matters, not the non consenting women in the space.

Not being a scientist either I couldn't comment on the water supply.
My own concerns with gender identification is that there is still too much gendering in society. Clothes, toys, what activities you can do. So when for example someone born male wants to wear pink and do ballet rather than just being allowed by society there is negativity about it. They then might question if their gender as they don't fit the mould they are told they are meant to be in. I also think this will impact neuro diverse people more as they already struggle to fit in a world designed to work best for neuro typical people.

chemicals in the water turn the freaking frogs gay

I think there’s a clear link with autism. Things tend to be seen in black and white so if you’re biologically one sex but don’t match the stereotype, you must be in the wrong gender. Ie. You like trousers, blue and football = boy and ballet, pink and pop music = girl. That black and white view leads to gender confusion and choosing a gender is a way to express “I like girl stereotype stuff” or vice versa.

I’ve seen stereotypes really strengthen beyond anything we had in the 1990s growing up. Then it was more Jane like cars and trains? Cool, let’s get her some.

I'm pretty sure children being allowed to access the Internet with no limits is the problem
Transgender is the new goth. Kids wanting to be individuals by copying everyone else.

And in contrast I know 3 girls and 1 boy.

It’s not a social trend, then? Like skinheads/ mods+ rockers?

I don't know, I think it's just because tweens/teens are online so much, and it's infiltrated schools so kids looking to fit in find a super welcoming group that are almost immune to bullying because it's seen as transphobic

I wanted to be a boy for a time as a child, the difference is there was no group to join to encourage it, no flags to wave or marches to go on, and I certainly couldn't have told my parents and been taken seriously! There have always been masculine women and feminine men, and kids used to group together based on music taste (goths, emos, punks etc) and that doesn't seem to be the case anymore, they group based on their gender identity and sexual preferences

I think if oestrogen in water was having any affect on people it would be more likely to manifest in the typical physical symptoms of an oestrogen imbalance. So I'd imagine men would be more likely to be experiencing ED, gynecomastia and infertility than a compulsion to wear a dress and use the ladies toilets.

Absolutely nothing to do with misogyny, the patriarchy or the pornification of society. Nope, it's the water.

Interesting. I did also read something questioning the DNA from foetal matter in some vaccinations as a cause of concern. I'm not saying that is any of these things but I think it's a really interesting discussion and.....who knows, stranger things have happened.

It is to do with indoctrination in schools and porn in older men.

Sorry, a single surgeon sees 10+ kids a month born with both ovaries and testes?

Only around 500 people have ever been
identified as having an ovotesticular DSD.

Where on earth does he work?