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Motability cars - should they be UK made?

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Pandersmum · 18/10/2025 09:49

Motability cars are currently in the news with suggestions VAT will be added. I realise they are a lifetime to some and a perk to others. They are a huge annual cost to the tax payer.

AIBU to think that all motability car choice should be limited to those manufactured in the UK? This would support British manufacturing worker jobs and increase UK business tax revenue whilst still providing cars for those who need them?

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toolies · 19/10/2025 11:02

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 10:56

Mobility cars are for the use of the disabled person and not the use of family members as far as I'm aware.
For example if a named driver needs to fetch a prescription for a disabled child that's fine to use the mobility car. If they need to fetch a prescription for themselves then the mobility car shouldn't be used. Maybe its different for a child but I know an adult with a mobility car and their named driver isn't allowed to use the car for their personal use, commuting to work, socialising etc - they have a second car for that

As far as you are aware is incorrect. Motability cars awarded for children are ordinarily deemed as the family car and normal family car usage can apply.

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 10:56

x2boys · 19/10/2025 10:46

Do you think mental health professionals are thick then?
Nobody is going to be getting PIP for mild anxiety
And clearly you don't know how it works because you seem to think mobility cars can't be used as the family car.

Mobility cars are for the use of the disabled person and not the use of family members as far as I'm aware.
For example if a named driver needs to fetch a prescription for a disabled child that's fine to use the mobility car. If they need to fetch a prescription for themselves then the mobility car shouldn't be used. Maybe its different for a child but I know an adult with a mobility car and their named driver isn't allowed to use the car for their personal use, commuting to work, socialising etc - they have a second car for that

Kirbert2 · 19/10/2025 10:47

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 08:52

It's not her having epilepsy that matters its how it affects her life.
If it has a severe affect then ofcourse she should get help.
Too many people claiming who don't actually need too is the problem and people treating mobility cars like the family vehicle

You didn't answer the question about how this surveillance would work? Where would the money come from to pay for it? Somehow, I doubt it would save much if any money at all.

x2boys · 19/10/2025 10:46

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 10:36

I'm well aware of how it works.
I'm also aware of people who claim and shouldn't.
Mental health and the likes of fibromyalgia are easily exaggerated and often unprovable. It's an easy option to extra money.

Do you think mental health professionals are thick then?
Nobody is going to be getting PIP for mild anxiety
And clearly you don't know how it works because you seem to think mobility cars can't be used as the family car.

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 10:44

CatkinToadflax · 19/10/2025 10:41

I wonder if the people who believe it’s easy to claim PIP have made successful claims themselves?

Some bloke down the pub told them.

Funnily enough, if the same bloke told them the seats had just been painted, they'd have to touch them to check.

Remember 50% of the population are below average intelligence. And we know how to find them.

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 10:42

Mental health and the likes of fibromyalgia are easily exaggerated and often unprovable.

Not so easily exaggerated you could do it though. And I hope you only ever treat your own health problems. I'd hate to think of you being treated by a doctor who could be conned by so many people obviously faking it.

I suppose you could get medical treatment outside the UK though.

Or are you quite happy to say in one face that you would see a doctor about your own health and out of the other face at the same time say doctors are so stupid they can be fooled by frauds ?

I bet you never answer.

CatkinToadflax · 19/10/2025 10:41

I wonder if the people who believe it’s easy to claim PIP have made successful claims themselves?

Sirzy · 19/10/2025 10:39

Nobody who knows the PIP process can claim anything about it is easy!

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 10:36

Arran2024 · 19/10/2025 09:49

Yes. And that's covered in the application and in the assessment. The point i was making is that the evidence to back it all up is in the medical supervision. So there is no need for surveillance on top, which is what the post i was redponding to suggested.

She also has learning disabilities. Those are evidenced in her school reports, her qualifications, her learning disability assessment. She has autism and adhd. That's evidenced by the diagnostic letters from CAMS.

People seem to think you can say what you like on the forms and the gov gives you a car.

I'm well aware of how it works.
I'm also aware of people who claim and shouldn't.
Mental health and the likes of fibromyalgia are easily exaggerated and often unprovable. It's an easy option to extra money.

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 10:09

The OP is bowing out because this thread failed to go the right way.

Still, they can take heart that someone else (it could be them if they namechange) will be along in a few days to start a similar (but not exact) thread to this to try and steer it it a conclusion where the majority are ready to go out dragging the disabled into the chambers themselves.

How many people will claim they can't understand this poster because it's in German ?

Motability cars - should they be UK made?
ContentedAlpaca · 19/10/2025 10:01

So to someone who is a paraplegic driver who needs to lift themselves from chair to car seat etc.. the ideal car is one that has

  • a driver's door that opens wide enough that a wheelchair can get close enough to the seat so that the driver can transfer.
  • sills that aren't huge so that the gap between where the chair stands to the seat is not a giant crevasse (most are)
  • seat that can be the right level for transferring. It's no good if you need crampons to get back up to your chair.
  • a boot that is large enough to hold a wheelchair
And/or an engine that is large enough to cope with an extra ton of roof lift.

You'd be amazed how few cars will fit this criteria and how futile sourcing a suitable car can feel.

The roof lift is not covered by motability. A chair lift is several thousand pounds and the installation will be an additional thousand.
Motability will not cover the total cost of a car that is suitable for needs of someone with such a disability and additional deposits will be required.

If the person has to hand the car back after 3 years, they will have to fund the cost of transferring the lift to a new vehicle.

Arran2024 · 19/10/2025 09:49

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 08:52

It's not her having epilepsy that matters its how it affects her life.
If it has a severe affect then ofcourse she should get help.
Too many people claiming who don't actually need too is the problem and people treating mobility cars like the family vehicle

Yes. And that's covered in the application and in the assessment. The point i was making is that the evidence to back it all up is in the medical supervision. So there is no need for surveillance on top, which is what the post i was redponding to suggested.

She also has learning disabilities. Those are evidenced in her school reports, her qualifications, her learning disability assessment. She has autism and adhd. That's evidenced by the diagnostic letters from CAMS.

People seem to think you can say what you like on the forms and the gov gives you a car.

KitsyWitsy · 19/10/2025 09:30

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 08:52

It's not her having epilepsy that matters its how it affects her life.
If it has a severe affect then ofcourse she should get help.
Too many people claiming who don't actually need too is the problem and people treating mobility cars like the family vehicle

What does that even mean? Why would someone lease a car that they didn't need? Spend £300 a month on it?! What?

So you think people should have a Motability car for the disabled family member PLUS another vehicle? Does that not seem ridiculous and wasteful to you?

Just think a bit longer and harder about things, will you?

x2boys · 19/10/2025 09:24

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 08:52

It's not her having epilepsy that matters its how it affects her life.
If it has a severe affect then ofcourse she should get help.
Too many people claiming who don't actually need too is the problem and people treating mobility cars like the family vehicle

Erm you are allowed to treat the car as the family vehicle in fact motability expect you too ,when my sons previous car was off the road for repairs motability arranged for a taxi account so my dh,could get to and from work obviously he doesn't take our son to work with him ,maybe educate yourself about how people can treat the mobility car, s before writing ignorant posts ?

LadyKenya · 19/10/2025 09:16

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 08:52

It's not her having epilepsy that matters its how it affects her life.
If it has a severe affect then ofcourse she should get help.
Too many people claiming who don't actually need too is the problem and people treating mobility cars like the family vehicle

What is so difficult for posters like you to understand, the fact that if a person is not eligible to claim, they can try until the cows come home, and they will not be given an award. The rest of your post just highlights your ignorance about the Motability scheme.

toolies · 19/10/2025 08:57

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 08:52

It's not her having epilepsy that matters its how it affects her life.
If it has a severe affect then ofcourse she should get help.
Too many people claiming who don't actually need too is the problem and people treating mobility cars like the family vehicle

in vast majority of cases where the award is for a child they are deemed to be the family vehicle though, so perhaps you need to check this with motability before suggesting people are doing something wrong.

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 08:56

Amiunemployable · 18/10/2025 17:26

Err, no.

Motability cars help provide jobs whatever country they come from.

I work at a citroen dealership and a hell of a lot of our business comes from the sale and servicing of motability cars. Couldn't even see us surviving if they took away motability from us. So that would be me and all my colleagues out of a job.

And FYI, I speak and deal with motability customers on a daily basis. For most, their cars are a lifeline. Cars that can be adapted, have wheelchair provision, etc.

So I'm massively pro motability.

But it's not the government's job to keep you in yours.
If changes to the scheme mean you lose your job it's down to the company you work for

Gingernessy · 19/10/2025 08:52

Arran2024 · 18/10/2025 16:11

My daughter has epilepsy. She is under the care of a consultant, who she sees every year, and she sees the epilepsy nurse every quarter, plus she has an annual review with the GP.

And they write reports.

But this isn't enough for you? You want her to be under surveillance to see what she can and can't do?

How do you see that working? And who is going to pay for it?

It's not her having epilepsy that matters its how it affects her life.
If it has a severe affect then ofcourse she should get help.
Too many people claiming who don't actually need too is the problem and people treating mobility cars like the family vehicle

CatkinToadflax · 19/10/2025 08:51

DS qualifies for a motability car but we’ve chosen not to have one. I lease my car myself and it costs me £200 per month. I could lease that exact same car through motability, in DS’s name and for his use, but it would cost £300 per month of his PIP. I’m really not sure how that’s a free car or a perk.

x2boys · 19/10/2025 08:07

Pandersmum · 18/10/2025 18:39

Some very personal attacks on here.

I am ND and do not claim PIP as can manage without it (I have also never tried to claim so have not personally been through the process). Yes that makes me fortunate. I am also a problem solver in my professional life.

So what happens when the UK govt cannot borrow any more money to continue servicing the National debt? Does this really not concern anyone? It genuinely concerns me.

You not claiming PIP doesn't make you a martyr, and being ND doesn't necessarily mean you would qualify for PIP ,you would have to meet the criteria.

x2boys · 19/10/2025 07:57

Pandersmum · 18/10/2025 22:18

I’ll leave this thread now. As stated I am ND and not fabulous with words. I am clearly not able to communicate effectively what I am trying to say.

The use of the ‘perk’ was meant to refer to my relatives who genuinely don’t need those cars - they could fund them independently without support. They themselves consider them to be a ‘perk’. This is their word, not mine.

As I said earlier, support to those who need it should be given and motability cars are very much a necessity to some, especially those who need expensive vehicle modifications. I actually believe these recipients should have greater funding than current. The problem is too many current recipients like my family members who don’t need it, mean there is less support for recipients with greater need.

Why start a thread about something you know nothing about🤔
We have a mobility car for my son he has severe autism and learning disabilities, he's 15 ,but cognitively around 2 or 3 ,he can speak at all ,in a special school for children with severe to profound learning disabilities and working at pre school levels ,cannot be left alone at all has extremely challenging behaviour, etc etc ,would you like to exchange lives and benefit from our " perk" ?
No I didn't think so.

x2boys · 19/10/2025 07:38

Avantiagain · 19/10/2025 07:28

You cannot get a motability car via DLA for learning difficulties alone. The child must either fit the virtually unable to walk criteria or the severe mental impairment criteria. The SMI criteria includes having to be severe enough to get high rate care, never being able to be left alone safely and have challenging behaviour that requires regular physical restraint.

Exactly this my son qualified under SMI he has extremely complex disabilities and will never be independent, I'm sick of some posters thinking it's easy to qualify it really isn't.

Avantiagain · 19/10/2025 07:28

You cannot get a motability car via DLA for learning difficulties alone. The child must either fit the virtually unable to walk criteria or the severe mental impairment criteria. The SMI criteria includes having to be severe enough to get high rate care, never being able to be left alone safely and have challenging behaviour that requires regular physical restraint.

Avantiagain · 19/10/2025 07:14

"I’ll leave this thread now. As stated I am ND and not fabulous with words."

Being ND doesn't stop someone being a twat.

Simonjt · 19/10/2025 07:11

Pandersmum · 18/10/2025 21:38

I don’t know the ins and out of how the scheme is funded. I am not a recipient.
My OP was to suggest choosing UK manufactured cars would help raise additional taxes for HMRC which would help fund the scheme.

BTW I don’t read the Daily Mail nor do I vote Reform.

Regarding WAV maybe they should be exempt from my ‘buy British’ suggestion if they are not available, but I believe they are actually only a small proportion of the vehicles.

Of the 3 close family /friends I know with motability cars - one has a Mercedes for reasons of epilepsy (his daughter actually uses the car on a daily basis but not for driving him around, he has another car), one has a Citroen for learning difficulties of a child (this means they don’t have to pay for another family car) and the other has a BMW for reasons I am not aware of (it’s none of my business). None of them need any special vehicle adaptions or have to have WAV. Honestly all 3 could afford to fund their own vehicles but using the motability scheme is more financially beneficial to them. So I class that as a ‘perk’. I’m sorry if that offends.

Maybe someone could arrange for you to have the perk of havinf epilepsy and learning difficulties.