Motability cars - should they be UK made?

and that money is going to the person, car or no car so what difference does it make if it's a car?

What do you suggest we do about the benefits bill then? Keep spraying money around like there’s no tomorrow? There is no more money. I’m so sick of being forced to pay ever increasing taxes.

But they're not costing the government any more money than those of us on enhanced mobility who receive the money into our accounts and use it in a different way

But even if you pay the advance the actual lease of the car is still funded by the government.... that's what people try and say. An advance is just that an advance that has been saved, so probably not that much in relation to the value of a new car. But the monthly payments are done through the mobility component = all taxpayers.
That's my point, from a financial perspective.

But 'able bodied' people (?!) or the not disabled, are in a better position to be able to work for these things. My son can't work at all and never will. I appreciate some people are on a low income and can't afford to run a car but if they aren't disabled, they are in a better position to improve their situation.

Motability evens out the playing field a bit.

What do you suggest we do about the benefits bill then? Keep spraying money around like there’s no tomorrow? There is no more money. I’m so sick of being forced to pay ever increasing taxes.

Some people who use Motability cars are also working people but wouldn't be able to get to work without their cars.

But even if you pay the advance the actual lease of the car is still funded by the government.... that's what people try and say. An advance is just that an advance that has been saved, so probably not that much in relation to the value of a new car. But the monthly payments are done through the mobility component = all taxpayers.
That's my point, from a financial perspective.

Actually, the point posters are making is that 99% of the time, there's an advance payment which isn't funded by the government and often costs thousands of pounds up front before you can get the car.

You don't just rock up and select any car of your choosing with only the mobility money going towards it which many people seem to think is how it works.

You don’t seem to understand that the government have targeted the ordinary working people again and again and again and again and again to fill the hole if the massively growing benefits bill without them even glancing at the spending and addressing ways of minimising them.

to fill a hole the government
has to increase taxes, borrow more, increase growth or cut spending. It has done the first two to death - absolute death. It needs to look at the second two. It’s time for spending to be cut. There is no other way.

According to one of the broadsheets today, if the chancellor implements input VAT on Motability cars, it will increase the average cost of a lease by £6,500 plus. In other words, she’s cutting the benefits to those disabled people by at least £2,000 pa?

How many people on here could afford to pay that, given those also on UC start losing benefits, when they have over £6,000? I suspect the number of people who would be able to afford a car, could drop off a cliff? 1,700 are employed in Motability - many of them could lose their jobs. If the second hand car market loses all those well maintained, fairly low mileage cars, that will put up the price of the remaining second hand cars, due to the law of supply and demand.

It really is disgusting that the government targets some of the most disabled and impoverished people in society to fill its black hole in public finances - because the government is run by people with no business experience and don’t think through the ramifications of their stupid ideas?

Who would have thought increasing employers NI would mean redundancies, freezes in recruitment, more inflation and a crisis in the care sector, with fixed incomes and high staff costs? Anyone who runs a business, but not the chancellor!

But you didn't pay for the entire car did you?

But you didn't pay for the entire car did you?

It really is disgusting that the government targets some of the most disabled and impoverished people in society to fill its black hole in public finances

Well that's the Reform manifesto people are fighting each other to be the first to sign up to.

I refer you to the picture I posted which is real history, not someones sick imagination. That is where we are headed.

But you didn't pay for the entire car did you?

But you didn't pay for the entire car did you?

It's still financed through the government scheme.

The point posters are making is, that people are given ££ as mobility component. They are obviously allowed to spend this however they want.

But considering the cost of new cars and the fact that the mobility component is financed by all taxpayers, I can see the issues. Some people may never be able to afford a new car, yet there are many ex notability cars available on the 2nd hand market that have not been converted.

So I do think with the current climate of dooming tax raises we should be allowed to question this.

However, there are also moral aspects towards the disabled population to be considered- as rightly for many it's a lifeline. But from a purely financial point of few....

Huh. I must have imagined the hefty advanced payment I had to pay from my own money.

It's still financed through the government scheme.

The point posters are making is, that people are given ££ as mobility component. They are obviously allowed to spend this however they want.

But considering the cost of new cars and the fact that the mobility component is financed by all taxpayers, I can see the issues. Some people may never be able to afford a new car, yet there are many ex notability cars available on the 2nd hand market that have not been converted.

So I do think with the current climate of dooming tax raises we should be allowed to question this.

However, there are also moral aspects towards the disabled population to be considered- as rightly for many it's a lifeline. But from a purely financial point of few....

I agree with you about everything except about Pip fraud being zero. I’m one person and I personally know 2 people who claim to be disabled, turn up to interviews hobbling with a stick etc and claim PIP but are gym goers, one woman claiming to be suffering from fibromyalgia does cash in hand cleaning and runs 5k daily.

Do you really think that the GBR population are that honest? 😂😂😂

@ChiseltipHave you not read any of the other comments in the thread?
Disabled people pay for their cars too. They use their mobility component of their PIP/DLA plus in many cases a lump sum advanced payment that comes from their own funds. If they didn't have a car on the scheme they'd still get the monthly payment from DWP.
How many times do people need to say "it's NOT a FREE car?"

Able bodied drivers pay for their own cars.

Yes,I can remember the name that they were given. Don't think anyone would get away with saying it out loud nowadays though!

Able bodied drivers pay for their own cars.