Motability cars - should they be UK made?

Ah, thanks.

Yes, however that doesn’t matter as PIP is not and has never been an out of work benefit.

Can you find a car to take two children, one adult driver and one adult in their powerchair (they can’t transfer) under £30k with adaptions completed?

But the higher rate pip is going towards the car in some cases

what is the need for the higher range car

most of us would like a higher range value car than we have (I would love a golf but not in my price range) but we can’t have one

so we have a car that does the job that we need it to

while I appreciate than many people will feel they are being got at the system isn’t working, it’s not working well enough for many who need that extra support but it’s working too well for people who play it

and that absolutely needs to be addressed

So because they are disabled they should be limited in choice like they already are with most
things but if your able bodied you can have your pick of any car. Do you know how disabilist that is.

Does he work?

(And, clearly, fit for purpose)

They should be cost effective.

Fraud is only zero because we don't have the technology or man power to check claims once awarded.
All claimants should have to agree to periodic surveillance to ensure what they can't do is genuine.

My wheelchair bound paralysed friend is a parent of two, so according to you as he can look after his own children he doesn’t need it.

Yes
I wasn’t the least bit surprised when I saw posting history

That’s not a source

@Rogerthat14
That really doesn’t surprise me - they went very quickly to talking about benefits for disabled people and moved on from having an issue with a charity scheme that enables people to use it to lease cars at an (almost) affordable rate. It’s actually a very expensive scheme for the lease holder but there a few choices when you need a WAV.

Ah. Thank you. Good to know.

But the only people who are going to be paying the higher advance payments for those cars are those who can afford them because it isn't covered from PIP or DLA money.

So why does it matter?

@HRTQueen
Can you explain how the scheme is open to abuse. It isn’t at all obvious - please explain.

I’m still hoping that there’s some good intentions behind people who would prefer Motability (a charity) didn’t exist.
I can’t imagine how it would be well-intentioned though.
As it’s a SCHEME (how it operates) not a car manufacturer or stockist ie much like a bank if you like - why that is objectionable.
I expect the resentment that people have are from “stories” (using that loosely) about people with acne (!) getting free cars and so on.
The issue with Joe Acne is actually a problem with the DWP then as it’s the DWP that awards the qualifying benefits..
And/or the medical professionals who can’t decipher if conditions are debilitating in an individual’s life.
And once again for those at the back - should everyone on universal credit be monitored on their legitimate use of the funds they receive. Should they be forced to have vouchers to spend on specifically British grown food or pay rent to only British landlords or buy British cars or British clothes

My point was about higher range value of cars that are on the scheme

i personally do no know what cars are and are not manufactured in the UK

I know higher range of value cars are available on the scheme and available to people who do not need it to be adapted to them. How can the be of course it’s open to being exploited it’s a ridiculous situation

Just a heads up

@Pandersmum is all over mumsnet talking about PIP and benefits cuts just as you’d expect from an Op who starts this kind of thread

Overthemhills never mentioned British made

I mentioned higher range value of cars

not everyone who gets mobility cars is in need of a car that needs to be adapted for their needs

this is where PIP is problematic the mh issues and the physical needs issues sometimes they cross over

and other times they do not but people know how to work the system and this is where they are trying to become tougher but it’s impacting many who are not playing the system

Ford aren't manufactured in the UK. As said, neither are some of the Vauxhall models that are good for carrying wheelchairs and oxygen etc. My DP decided to buy his Ford Eco Sport outright (with his private critical illness payment), they are ideal because they are slightly higher and the boot opens out sidewards, many disabled people struggle to close boots. But they aren't made in the UK.

Well that's it you need proof admittedly we didn't take my son with us when we signed for and later picked up.l his mobility car ,but I had proof I'm his appointee and I had to take proof that he gets HRM my DH also had to bring his driving licence as the named driver and only certain makes and models are available certainly no sporty little numbers

I believe UK manufactured cars are Toyota, Nissan, Vauxhall, Mini, Jaguar Land Rover plus other prestige marques. Quite a range

source @Pandersmum ?

I just looked at the site. Not choosing any filters eg seat number, transmission type, fuel type, looking at no down payment, there are 41 cars to choose from. So not the massive free for all!!