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AIBU to think this BBC headline is misleadingre Andrew Windsor ? ?

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 08:35

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgw31y75ywt

Andrew has not given up anything .
His own ( I doubt the wrote it ) statement says he will not use his ‘titles’ .He still has them

Charles and William dare not touch Andrew in case Andrew reveals all about the rest of them - plus they no doubt see nothing wrong- what’s another used and abused peasant to them ?
But another woman linked to the Windsors has died, Virginia Giuffre, and her book is released next week . So the Windsors need to throw a bone to the public and make it look like they have done something . They have done precisely nothing .
It’s hot air .

Is the BBC helping to prop up the Windsor grift ? The article does say Andrew doesn’t ‘use’ his HRH - but he still has it . So they must know this nonsense re ‘giving up’ a title is not the whole story . Why not make it clear to the reader ?

Prince Andrew gives up royal titles including Duke of York after 'discussion with King'

In a statement, the prince says: "The continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the Royal Family."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgw31y75ywt

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:17

Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 12:09

When he is King he will have the power to do so; and Parliament would back it. Read your history. Heard of the Duke of Windsor? And its William, not Willaim. You seem to be a keen media analyst. Look it up.

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For goodness sake- it’s a typo !

I can spell William . I can spell lazy arsed charisma free zone too

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blacksax · 18/10/2025 12:17

Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 12:11

Yes exactly what I thought. However, its the grammar and spelling thats really getting on my nerves 🙄 Obviously a first rate expert on the British monarchy...especially as they seem to have no clue what a monarch can or cannot do if they so wish.

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There's been a variety of threads on a very similar theme just lately.

People can change their username (not that I'm suggesting anything of the kind of course...), but the overall content, tone, grammar and spelling gives the game away sometimes.

Viviennemary · 18/10/2025 12:16

He is still Prince Andrew not Mr Windsor or Mr York. So he hasn't given up titles at all. He still lives in a mansion with servants I presume. I doubt he's doing his own cooking and cleaning. Total hoodwink

Haveanaiceday · 18/10/2025 12:16

It doesn't sound a big deal to us, but it's a big deal in his world. He was once a very important person in the world of royals and the aristocracy. A royal Duke is one step below a King. Now basically he's been forced to give up all his honorary titles.
He's been shamed and if he doesn't keep his head down or if more allegations come out they will do more.

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:15

ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 18/10/2025 12:13

And re "the BBC helping to prop up the Windsor grift " , the guardian (not known for its pro-royal toadying) has used the same headline.

We aren't duped peasants. We're just (for the most part) people who don't really care about this particular variant on the Big Brother house and its evictions.

Yes I addressed the wider media issue

Although the Guardian has done a lot of work over the years highlighting Windsor abuses of laws and finances

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Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 12:15

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:03

No one is born HRH

It was a lie when it was first invented to fool the peasants and it’s a lie now

A lie invented to fool the peasants 🤣🤣 you are truly brightening my day with these intelligence based one liners 🤣🤣

IsawwhatIsaw · 18/10/2025 12:15

The family finally cut off him to protect their own unearned privileges .
But the bigger issue is that he was thought suitable to be a trade ambassador for the UK. The corruption element deserves a police investigation, but we know that won’t happen.

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:14

blacksax · 18/10/2025 12:08

Interesting username there, OP. Makes me wonder what your motives are for starting this thread.🤔

Aside from that - really? Does the general public in the UK really give anything remotely resembling a shit about all this royal muck-raking? <pun intended>

Because I sure don't.

There’s no doubt about my motives !

Ive started several threads re the abuses the Windsors inflict on the public . I’m happy to stand by them
Do a search - you might learn something

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ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 18/10/2025 12:13

And re "the BBC helping to prop up the Windsor grift " , the guardian (not known for its pro-royal toadying) has used the same headline.

We aren't duped peasants. We're just (for the most part) people who don't really care about this particular variant on the Big Brother house and its evictions.

Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 12:11

blacksax · 18/10/2025 12:08

Interesting username there, OP. Makes me wonder what your motives are for starting this thread.🤔

Aside from that - really? Does the general public in the UK really give anything remotely resembling a shit about all this royal muck-raking? <pun intended>

Because I sure don't.

Yes exactly what I thought. However, its the grammar and spelling thats really getting on my nerves 🙄 Obviously a first rate expert on the British monarchy...especially as they seem to have no clue what a monarch can or cannot do if they so wish.

damemaggiescurledupperlip · 18/10/2025 12:11

Is SF not still Princess Andrew?

Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 12:09

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 11:31

By which mechanism would Willaim exile Andrew ?

He doesn’t have the power nor , more importantly , the will.
William was happy to be photographed driving Andrew around while the Epstein scandal was still all over the news - Kate grinning away in the back
At the Duchess of Kent’s funeral Andrew was joshing away with Willaim , perplexed as to why Willaim wasn’t responding as he no doubt usually does . William then spoke to Andrew with his hand covering his mouth - ie shut up uncle Andy the cameras are on me

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When he is King he will have the power to do so; and Parliament would back it. Read your history. Heard of the Duke of Windsor? And its William, not Willaim. You seem to be a keen media analyst. Look it up.

blacksax · 18/10/2025 12:08

Interesting username there, OP. Makes me wonder what your motives are for starting this thread.🤔

Aside from that - really? Does the general public in the UK really give anything remotely resembling a shit about all this royal muck-raking? <pun intended>

Because I sure don't.

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:03

No one is born HRH

It was a lie when it was first invented to fool the peasants and it’s a lie now

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Theunamedcat · 18/10/2025 12:02

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 08:54

@Gwenhwyfar
That’s true - they did take HRH from Diana

Did they manage to find the legislative time then ?
But now , with all that Andrew is associated with - it’s too much bother

Bullshit
Andrew is protected and ‘not using’ titles he still has is more bullshit
The Windsors are protecting Andrew

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She wasn't born HRH andrew was that's the most obvious difference

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:01

Agreed

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ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 18/10/2025 11:56

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 10:41

@ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird

As other posters have pointed out , Andrew has not been ‘jettisoned ‘

Nothing has changed for Andrew .

This is PR puffery and you’ve fallen for it.

Depends what you mean by jettisoned. He can't be utterly de-royaled except by act of parliament. Everything else naturally is just PR puffery because the whole institution is just smoke and mirrors, and can invent its own conventions and protocols at the drop of a hat.
All that really matters is how much he is able, directly or indirectly, to make money from his status, and I'm imagining that every such PR puffery as yesterday's chips away at that.

I'd prefer it if he could make zero cash from his accident of birth, but then I'd prefer the same for every member of his fucked-up family.

StrawberryJangle · 18/10/2025 11:52

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 08:42

I agree titles and royalty are made up bullshit.

However they can be removed - but only by parliament .

This headline making nonsense from Windsor Inc is misleading people into believing that Charles and /or William have somehow ‘acted’
As if

I’ve also noticed that one of Epstein’s victims also thinks Andrew has been ‘stripped ‘ of his ( nonsense ) titles .
That has really upset me

Could the BBC please be clearer ?
This is a puff piece from the Windsors . It’s the one thing they are good at - deception and sleight of hand .

Please write in to Points of View, if it's still on.

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 11:51

@SleepingisanArt

’He doesn’t get money from the tax payer ‘ is another royal apologist lie

All they have is taken from the taxpayer . Every bit of it . No they don’t own the Duchies , they don’t own the crown estates either

They are making money from the NHS schools charities and no apology given .
I believe they.know their game is up .

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 11:49

@SleepingisanArt

Nice bit of victim blaming there

Shame on you

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PinkPanther57 · 18/10/2025 11:48

SomeConstellation · 18/10/2025 11:39

Is that true??

I’m not British and realise I don’t know much about him before the Epstein story broke. My sense of his past is a vague blur of Falklands, Randy Andy, Koo Stark, Fergie, golf and general uselessness, but not much detail.

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According to Lownie/Lownie’s book ‘Entitled’.

SleepingisanArt · 18/10/2025 11:46

If the victim campaigner is basing their whole response on a headline without reading the whole article OP that says volumes about them!

Former royal correspondent Jennie Bond gave a good interview on the BBC news channel yesterday evening. She explained that if parliament 'strip' Andrew of his titles (which could take months or years) then his daughters automatically lose their titles too and the King and future King may wish them to perform royal duties which they couldn't do if they are no longer princesses. She also said that people have known for decades that Andrew is an entitled, arrogant man who was known from his early days in the military as Randy Andy. Not being able to use his titles will be very painful to his ego. He doesn't get money from the tax payer and will find it harder to raise his own cash without his titles in her opinion.

SomeConstellation · 18/10/2025 11:39

PinkPanther57 · 18/10/2025 11:28

Brilliant analysis. IMO he’s also a sex addict & a good part of that responsibility lies with whomever thought a jolly jape to send him to a brothel at 11.

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Is that true??

I’m not British and realise I don’t know much about him before the Epstein story broke. My sense of his past is a vague blur of Falklands, Randy Andy, Koo Stark, Fergie, golf and general uselessness, but not much detail.

Anyoldsalad · 18/10/2025 11:37

Ratafia · 18/10/2025 10:51

Meh. So technically the headline should have said that he had given up the use of his titles. Would it make that much difference? The facts are in the report.

Exactly, headlines tend to be sound bites of a distorted truth to grab attention. They’re punchy and dramatic and simplified to provoke a response. Often not the literal truth.

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 11:36

@stackhead

I realise that - why use the word ‘stripped ‘ in that case ?

Nothing has been stripped from Andrew

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