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AIBU to think this BBC headline is misleadingre Andrew Windsor ? ?

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 08:35

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgw31y75ywt

Andrew has not given up anything .
His own ( I doubt the wrote it ) statement says he will not use his ‘titles’ .He still has them

Charles and William dare not touch Andrew in case Andrew reveals all about the rest of them - plus they no doubt see nothing wrong- what’s another used and abused peasant to them ?
But another woman linked to the Windsors has died, Virginia Giuffre, and her book is released next week . So the Windsors need to throw a bone to the public and make it look like they have done something . They have done precisely nothing .
It’s hot air .

Is the BBC helping to prop up the Windsor grift ? The article does say Andrew doesn’t ‘use’ his HRH - but he still has it . So they must know this nonsense re ‘giving up’ a title is not the whole story . Why not make it clear to the reader ?

Prince Andrew gives up royal titles including Duke of York after 'discussion with King'

In a statement, the prince says: "The continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the Royal Family."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgw31y75ywt

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 13:38

Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 13:24

So premium search shows you are running a minimum of 5 (5?!?) threads about the monarchy. Is this a full time occupation for you? Good grief 😅 I stopped looking after 5....

I’ve checked again
I started the thread in the financial abuses of the Duchies in January !
If you are triggered by reading about the abuses the Windsors carry out - don’t read them

People posts multiple daily threads for months on end in the Harry Hate section - but I just ignore them
HTH

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 13:33

I tried looking under ‘ I started ‘
I see one in may - one in sept and today’s .

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Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 13:30

I’m not running anything .

I have started five threads since the start of this year - maybe end of last year I’m not sure

One highlighted the shocking abuses carried out in William and Charles’ names via the duchies - ie charging state bodies / NHS for use of ‘their’ land ( it isn’t )

Another was promoted to a similar issue as today’s - royal propaganda .

Is that ok with you ?

Am I breaking some rules ?

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Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 13:24

So premium search shows you are running a minimum of 5 (5?!?) threads about the monarchy. Is this a full time occupation for you? Good grief 😅 I stopped looking after 5....

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 13:05

The point of the thread however was that headlines stating Andrew has been ‘stripped’ of his titles are misleading

He has not been stripped of anything

Shame on the Windsors

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Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 13:04

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 13:02

@Catsknowbest

Perhaps I should have explained my point more carefully to you .

Someconstellation describes ‘royalty’ as a story . I describe it as a lie .
I repeat , no one is born royal . It’s a construct designed to dupe the gullible .

Please don't trouble yourself on my account.

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 13:02

@Catsknowbest

Perhaps I should have explained my point more carefully to you .

Someconstellation describes ‘royalty’ as a story . I describe it as a lie .
I repeat , no one is born royal . It’s a construct designed to dupe the gullible .

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Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 13:01

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:41

And any comment on the treatment of those who tried to speak out about Mountbatten ? ( dear uncle Dickie to Charles )

Come on, be honest- this is just an anti monarchy thread isn't it? No one with a brain likes or wants Andrew in our society. You could have at least been a little more honest from the start. Plenty of rotten apples in many family barrels.

Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 12:57

SomeConstellation · 18/10/2025 12:32

Well, but that poster isn’t incorrect. Andrew was born a baby, like any other baby. The idea of a god-given sacred bloodline destined to rule its subjects via male primogeniture (and then unisex primogeniture) is a story. Like money, or nations., or religion.

Unfortunately, in his case, that story allowed him access to under-age girls via his appeal, as a British prince, to an American financier and child trafficker who would not have been interested in any other paunchy, middle-aged grifter.

At no point have I defended Andrew- he makes my skin crawl. My point was this poster went very quickly to rather ridiculous statements that don't really give any thought out basis to what their views actually are; and I'm sorry but I find their username a fairly good indication of what they're trying to achieve. We don't have to agree on monarchy/anti monarchy, but a little bit of not being ridiculous about it would be nice.

Callipygion · 18/10/2025 12:57

Dearg · 18/10/2025 08:47

Well I do think Charles & William have acted. There’s no way that inflated bag of sleaze volunteered to stop using them.

He was told to, probably forcefully, He was told his grifter wife was to stop pretending to be royal.

I agree that the motives for doing this were more in an attempt at self preservation on the part of the King & heir, and I wish Andrew were forced to face proper justice for his crimes - along with all the other well-known men in the emails.

But meantime, this is a humiliation for Andrew and I am all for that.

I agree. The headline on the Mail today (not that I bought it or read it - sorry to mention the awful rag)is ‘Andrew Falls on his Sword’, which makes him seem noble and gallant and as if he willingly gave his titles up all by himself. I laughed to myself as I would bet you any money he was dragged kicking and screaming to his sword and someone held it for him.

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:41

And any comment on the treatment of those who tried to speak out about Mountbatten ? ( dear uncle Dickie to Charles )

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blacksax · 18/10/2025 12:38

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:37

@blacksax

No it isn’t .

But I thanked a poster for highlighting the issue of Mountbatten’s rape of children in care homes .
Any comments from you that ?

He was blown up by the IRA. Punishment enough, surely?

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:37

@blacksax

No it isn’t .

But I thanked a poster for highlighting the issue of Mountbatten’s rape of children in care homes .
Any comments from you that ?

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blacksax · 18/10/2025 12:35

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:30

I’m calm - and I’m glad to see the personal attacks on me . It means royalists are triggered and unable to refute an argument.You better hurry over to the other anti Andrew thread that has opened !

That's one of yours as well, is it?

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:34

Thank you @SomeConstellation

That was exactly it

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SomeConstellation · 18/10/2025 12:32

Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 12:15

A lie invented to fool the peasants 🤣🤣 you are truly brightening my day with these intelligence based one liners 🤣🤣

Well, but that poster isn’t incorrect. Andrew was born a baby, like any other baby. The idea of a god-given sacred bloodline destined to rule its subjects via male primogeniture (and then unisex primogeniture) is a story. Like money, or nations., or religion.

Unfortunately, in his case, that story allowed him access to under-age girls via his appeal, as a British prince, to an American financier and child trafficker who would not have been interested in any other paunchy, middle-aged grifter.

Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 12:30

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:30

I’m calm - and I’m glad to see the personal attacks on me . It means royalists are triggered and unable to refute an argument.You better hurry over to the other anti Andrew thread that has opened !

I can't! I'm too busy laughing 🤣 but I promise to have a quick look later as I just know you will have popped in there 🤗

charliehungerford · 18/10/2025 12:30

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 08:54

@Gwenhwyfar
That’s true - they did take HRH from Diana

Did they manage to find the legislative time then ?
But now , with all that Andrew is associated with - it’s too much bother

Bullshit
Andrew is protected and ‘not using’ titles he still has is more bullshit
The Windsors are protecting Andrew

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I think the case with Diana was different as she was not born a Princess with an HRH title, it was awarded on marriage to Charles, so easier to remove. Andrew was born with the title of ‘Prince’ which makes him HRH, which can’t be taken off him.

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:30

I’m calm - and I’m glad to see the personal attacks on me . It means royalists are triggered and unable to refute an argument.You better hurry over to the other anti Andrew thread that has opened !

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Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 12:27

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:25

Not thinking of Andrew ? Or Mountbatten ? Or the money stolen by the Duchies ?

But of a poster on a forum ?
I’m shocked ! ( not)

Go and put the kettle on and calm yourself down 👍

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:25

Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 12:19

A typo more than once though...Congratulations on that last sentence too 👏 really, genuinely helps us to understand you and why you are here, very grateful indeed. I'm off to attend to my cat's litter tray and, I will be thinking of you whilst I'm doing it.

Not thinking of Andrew ? Or Mountbatten ? Or the money stolen by the Duchies ?

But of a poster on a forum ?
I’m shocked ! ( not)

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Trickabrick · 18/10/2025 12:20

Anyone with a vested interest in the news will have read behind the headline and the use of the word “stripped” and focused on the actual intent of the move, and the consequences for Andrew which is a proper result for the victims after years of lies, smokescreens and cover ups.

tartyflette · 18/10/2025 12:20

Anyoldsalad · 18/10/2025 09:08

He hasn’t ’given anything up’ yet because it has only just been announced.

He didn’t inherit anything after the ER’s death except 2 dogs.

What exactly are you expecting? For Charles to turf him out onto the street and he live on a council estate?

It is believed he inherited susbstantially from his grandmother, the queen mother.
But since the royals have decided that virtually all royal wills will remain secret for many years, I fear we will never know.
(This followed an agreement between the queen's grandfather and the government of the day whereby the sovereign's will would be kept secret in return for him relinquishing some civil list type payments. But this has since been expanded to include virtually the entire royal family. )

Catsknowbest · 18/10/2025 12:19

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:17

For goodness sake- it’s a typo !

I can spell William . I can spell lazy arsed charisma free zone too

A typo more than once though...Congratulations on that last sentence too 👏 really, genuinely helps us to understand you and why you are here, very grateful indeed. I'm off to attend to my cat's litter tray and, I will be thinking of you whilst I'm doing it.

VivienneDelacroix · 18/10/2025 12:17

Id like him to be given a new name, and only be referred to as that: Andy Smith would be fine.