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Jam sandwiches at wraparound care

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JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:17

My reception age DD goes to a really well arranged breakfast club and after school club 4 days a week. It works very well with 2 commuting parents. I only have one gripe and that is with the food they offer. Technically the food should align with the school’s healthy eating policy, as it’s run by the school not an external provider. The school has asked parents not to provide sweet treats in lunch boxes and it’s quite strict about sandwiches.

HOWEVER the school is not transparent about the wraparound food offer and I had to email three times to get them to tell me what they provide. Once they did, they disclosed that the after school options include a range of sandwiches, including jam, plus a pudding of cake and fruit. Of course, my four-year-old always goes for a jam sandwich and ends up with a very sweet tea 4 days a week. The school says they offer carrot sticks etc, however, not one single parent has ever mentioned this in conversation and so I just think it’s something they say but don’t provide.

We do talk at home about the importance of a balanced diet, but she’s still only four and temptation is there! She’s offered something a bit more nutritionally balanced she gets home, but she’s usually just full of jam sandwich!

I emailed the school to ask them if they are able to comment on this or if they ever review the food that they provide at wraparound care, but I haven’t received a reply. AIBU to push this further?

OP posts:
Usernamenotav · 18/10/2025 20:32

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:17

My reception age DD goes to a really well arranged breakfast club and after school club 4 days a week. It works very well with 2 commuting parents. I only have one gripe and that is with the food they offer. Technically the food should align with the school’s healthy eating policy, as it’s run by the school not an external provider. The school has asked parents not to provide sweet treats in lunch boxes and it’s quite strict about sandwiches.

HOWEVER the school is not transparent about the wraparound food offer and I had to email three times to get them to tell me what they provide. Once they did, they disclosed that the after school options include a range of sandwiches, including jam, plus a pudding of cake and fruit. Of course, my four-year-old always goes for a jam sandwich and ends up with a very sweet tea 4 days a week. The school says they offer carrot sticks etc, however, not one single parent has ever mentioned this in conversation and so I just think it’s something they say but don’t provide.

We do talk at home about the importance of a balanced diet, but she’s still only four and temptation is there! She’s offered something a bit more nutritionally balanced she gets home, but she’s usually just full of jam sandwich!

I emailed the school to ask them if they are able to comment on this or if they ever review the food that they provide at wraparound care, but I haven’t received a reply. AIBU to push this further?

The saddest thing about this post is that your child goes to breakfast AND afterschool club 4x a week

LaChouette · 18/10/2025 20:31

bamboo12 · 18/10/2025 20:10

As a child of the seventies, I ate lemon curd sandwiches a lot as a child.
Do I do that now? No.
It’s just a snack - yes it’s better if she chose the ham or cheese. But she isn’t going to be affected by this.
I am a slim nearly 50 year old and don’t really have a sweet tooth.
I ate a lot of processed food - meat paste, fish paste etc.
I don’t now.
Try not to stress.
My two children don’t always eat what I want but taste evolves over time.

Exactly this. I grew up on Findus crispy pancakes, tinned bolognaise and all sorts of processed crap that is frowned on now. I rarely eat anything like that now because my palate has matured.

Making food taboo makes them desirable. The more you try to prevent kids eating them, the more they will want them once they have control of their own diet.

Usernamenotav · 18/10/2025 20:25

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:24

Ideally one of the cheese or ham ones they offer. Plus the cake. Jam is not in the same category in my eyes. It’s also a direct contradiction of their own policy!

Ham is a group 1 carcenogen. You'd rather your 4 year old eat that than jam!?!?

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 20:23

Wildefish · 18/10/2025 20:13

I agree. I’m a childminder and I have never offered a jam sandwich once. Ham, cheese, breadsticks with cream cheese, even a banana sandwich is more nutritious. This is lazy.

The OP's child is being offered ham and cheese. She just doesn't want them.

Wildefish · 18/10/2025 20:13

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:24

Ideally one of the cheese or ham ones they offer. Plus the cake. Jam is not in the same category in my eyes. It’s also a direct contradiction of their own policy!

I agree. I’m a childminder and I have never offered a jam sandwich once. Ham, cheese, breadsticks with cream cheese, even a banana sandwich is more nutritious. This is lazy.

Theslummymummy · 18/10/2025 20:10

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:32

Except she’s full from all the jam!
Those talking about what she will eat later in her school life, is not really my issue now. She is 4 and setting the foundations for healthy eating in later life. I did not eat badly at secondary school and we are very consciously educating about real food and do not eat UPF at home, so are willing to bend on this for ease of school.

Lmao so if it was a cheese sandwich she wouldn't be "full from all the cheese"? It's not meant to be tea, it's meant to be a snack.

bamboo12 · 18/10/2025 20:10

As a child of the seventies, I ate lemon curd sandwiches a lot as a child.
Do I do that now? No.
It’s just a snack - yes it’s better if she chose the ham or cheese. But she isn’t going to be affected by this.
I am a slim nearly 50 year old and don’t really have a sweet tooth.
I ate a lot of processed food - meat paste, fish paste etc.
I don’t now.
Try not to stress.
My two children don’t always eat what I want but taste evolves over time.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 18/10/2025 19:58

Send her in with a packed tea.
She is 4.
she probably has jam on her toast when she is in breakfast club...

Do not expect the staff to force her to eat a ham or cheese sandwich.

FancyCatSlave · 18/10/2025 19:55

The food at our wraparound is also dire at times, breakfast especially although after school is also variable. I have learnt to just ignore it. What infuriates me is that it is so inconsistent at ours. One day it is popcorn, the next scrambled egg on toast with no advanced notice so it makes planning dinner difficult.

Missmarie87 · 18/10/2025 19:53

My children were in asc and how much they charge im sure they can do better options of food,
working parents get penalised at every chance it’s so unfair! At least provide something healthier or better than straight sugar on bread which is also sugar I don’t see the problem in asking or enquiring

April01 · 18/10/2025 19:53

I completely agree with you. Jam is nutritionally low, full of sugar and setting the child up to expect sweet foods and eat them as the norm. I would not allow my kids to ever eat jam apart from a one off party they might attend. Would not be happy them eating it 4 days a week. If you talked to any dentist they would also agree.
I think you are completely within your right to push this forward and complain.

Dinosaurhearmeroar · 18/10/2025 19:47

soupyspoon · 18/10/2025 18:25

These are not UPF

Most bread is as is cheese. Pretty much all porridge is processed and the flavoured ones etc are all upf.

Kirbert2 · 18/10/2025 19:45

Anxietybummer · 18/10/2025 19:19

Hard disagree. Doesn’t matter who gives the child sugary ultra processed crap, they shouldn’t be eating it.

And it is effectively dinner if the child is too full from the sugary crap to eat dinner when she gets home… as the OP has already mentioned.

Then OP needs to be prepared to pay more for ASC or pack a snack for her child to eat instead.

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 19:38

Anxietybummer · 18/10/2025 19:19

Hard disagree. Doesn’t matter who gives the child sugary ultra processed crap, they shouldn’t be eating it.

And it is effectively dinner if the child is too full from the sugary crap to eat dinner when she gets home… as the OP has already mentioned.

Well then the OP supplies the food for their child themselves. Problem solved.

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 19:34

Missmarie87 · 18/10/2025 18:54

It’s shocking how rude some people are, she’s asking advice if you have nothing nice to say then don’t bother! We in this country eat terrible food all the time and don’t have clue about what is bad or good for us and someone who is trying to keep her child on a good eating plan is getting told to bore off basically it’s ridiculous! Shame on you unhealthy bar stewards!

I'm fairly certain the OP is not prepared to pay extra for the kind of food she thinks would be appropriate to give her child at ASC.

Ultimately it comes down to this. If the OP feels so strongly, she can make other provision or supply her own food for her child to take with them.

Neither you nor the OP is looking at this from the pov of the provider.

Lunde · 18/10/2025 19:31

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 16:18

Oh come on. You don't need a trained chef to stick a potato in the microwave or make a sandwich! What people do need is education as to what is healthy and good for you and what is sugar filled, processed crap and is definitely not

What sort of microwave do you have where you can make 50+ jacket potatoes in a short period after school?

Lunde · 18/10/2025 19:23

StrawberryJangle · 18/10/2025 16:35

Mmmm wafer thin donkey ham.

My kids attended a Scandi ASC and smoked horse meat was a regular sandwich topping - as was fish roe paste and caramelised cheese 😁

On school trips there was often a Reindeer sandwich!

On cold winter days there was also blueberry soup!

(I just learned to keep my mouth shut)

Anxietybummer · 18/10/2025 19:19

Kirbert2 · 18/10/2025 18:56

You're comparing a parent giving it to 1 child though and it's meant as a snack, not dinner. ASC have to cater to multiple children and then add in dietary needs, any allergies etc as well as trying to keep costs down because parents would soon moan if ASC cost went up.

Edited

Hard disagree. Doesn’t matter who gives the child sugary ultra processed crap, they shouldn’t be eating it.

And it is effectively dinner if the child is too full from the sugary crap to eat dinner when she gets home… as the OP has already mentioned.

Kirbert2 · 18/10/2025 18:56

Anxietybummer · 18/10/2025 18:51

If it was just once or twice a week I wouldn’t care, or even if it was just a jam sandwich OR pudding it might not be so bad. But if a parent came on here and said ‘is it bad that most nights I just give my child a jam sandwich and a pudding’… that person would be lynched! I don’t see why they can’t provide something more nutritious and less ultra processed.

Can you send her with something instead?

You're comparing a parent giving it to 1 child though and it's meant as a snack, not dinner. ASC have to cater to multiple children and then add in dietary needs, any allergies etc as well as trying to keep costs down because parents would soon moan if ASC cost went up.

KookyRoseCrab · 18/10/2025 18:54

I’m trying to get my head round this? Do they give them a piece and jam and a pudding?
we make our own jam just brambles and sugar 😂 and a wee drop lemon

Missmarie87 · 18/10/2025 18:54

It’s shocking how rude some people are, she’s asking advice if you have nothing nice to say then don’t bother! We in this country eat terrible food all the time and don’t have clue about what is bad or good for us and someone who is trying to keep her child on a good eating plan is getting told to bore off basically it’s ridiculous! Shame on you unhealthy bar stewards!

Anxietybummer · 18/10/2025 18:51

If it was just once or twice a week I wouldn’t care, or even if it was just a jam sandwich OR pudding it might not be so bad. But if a parent came on here and said ‘is it bad that most nights I just give my child a jam sandwich and a pudding’… that person would be lynched! I don’t see why they can’t provide something more nutritious and less ultra processed.

Can you send her with something instead?

lizzyBennet08 · 18/10/2025 18:50

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:38

I’m going to close the thread. I suppose it confirmed my own opinions that the British population has an incredibly low bar with nutrition expectations for growing children.

Youre dead right. You should pack up and move somewhere else where schools all align with your views and reply to your important emails in a timely fashion.

Bumblebee72 · 18/10/2025 18:47

Is it Bonne Maman? If not I'd be fuming too.

mrlistersgelfbride · 18/10/2025 18:40

Pick your battles, OP.
It’s a jam sandwich.
They all end up wanting McDonald’s and Haribo anyway.