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Jam sandwiches at wraparound care

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JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:17

My reception age DD goes to a really well arranged breakfast club and after school club 4 days a week. It works very well with 2 commuting parents. I only have one gripe and that is with the food they offer. Technically the food should align with the school’s healthy eating policy, as it’s run by the school not an external provider. The school has asked parents not to provide sweet treats in lunch boxes and it’s quite strict about sandwiches.

HOWEVER the school is not transparent about the wraparound food offer and I had to email three times to get them to tell me what they provide. Once they did, they disclosed that the after school options include a range of sandwiches, including jam, plus a pudding of cake and fruit. Of course, my four-year-old always goes for a jam sandwich and ends up with a very sweet tea 4 days a week. The school says they offer carrot sticks etc, however, not one single parent has ever mentioned this in conversation and so I just think it’s something they say but don’t provide.

We do talk at home about the importance of a balanced diet, but she’s still only four and temptation is there! She’s offered something a bit more nutritionally balanced she gets home, but she’s usually just full of jam sandwich!

I emailed the school to ask them if they are able to comment on this or if they ever review the food that they provide at wraparound care, but I haven’t received a reply. AIBU to push this further?

OP posts:
outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 09:23

Actually I lie, according to google it’s an amorphous solid.

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 09:23

Needlenardlenoo · 19/10/2025 09:21

Non-Newtonian liquid according to Google! How educational.

Isn’t glass also technically one of those

(veers off topic)

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 09:22

But the savoury options are no better.

Someone would be emailing to complain about the ham, which is worse.

what is your vegetarian/dairy free option, other than a carrot stick.

hence why this ASC offers a choice.

Needlenardlenoo · 19/10/2025 09:21

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 08:59

I mean jam is a fairly melty solid.

Non-Newtonian liquid according to Google! How educational.

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 09:20

You seem very willing to accept the economic circumstances that necessitate full time child care, but not apply this to the price of food

AlenaMacc · 19/10/2025 09:20

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 09:18

And I cringe at your grasp of economic reality.

other than sending in own snacks, which is perfectly feasible and has been suggested, what is your alternative suggestion that would be the same price, cater to allergies/vegetarian etc and does not need massive preparation/storage /refrigeration and has long shelf life.

The answer is not bloody chia seeds.

The answer is to not offer the jam sandwiches and only offer the savoury options and carrots sticks that they are already offering anyways - problem solved.

Hence why OP is writing emails.

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 09:18

AlenaMacc · 19/10/2025 09:14

You seem to be absolutely missing the point of OP’s thread.

It’s not about taking your DC to Greggs once in a while because you’re tired of cooking. It’s not about feeding them chicken nuggets from time to time because you’re out of time to cook dinner from scratch. It’s not about taking them out for a cake at the weekend. It’s not about giving them the occasional treat. It’s not about baking them a homemade dessert made with ingredients our grannies had in their cupboards.

It’s about feeding them crap 4 days a week at a childcare setting that they HAVE to attend in order for the parents to work such long hours because the economy is so dire.

It’s about the expectations from parents to provide a healthy lunch box, but then turning around and not following their own rules when it comes to wraparound.

It’s about feeding growing children food with 0 nutrition, which is just empty calories when they need healthy fats, protein and good carbs.

I cringe at your comprehension skills.

And I cringe at your grasp of economic reality.

other than sending in own snacks, which is perfectly feasible and has been suggested, what is your alternative suggestion that would be the same price, cater to allergies/vegetarian etc and does not need massive preparation/storage /refrigeration and has long shelf life.

The answer is not bloody chia seeds.

wineosaurusrex · 19/10/2025 09:18

Bluemin · 18/10/2025 08:30

Ham every day isn't healthy either - its a known carcinogen.

I came here to say this! I would prefer jam to ham any day!

Shopsrshut23 · 19/10/2025 09:15

H, J or C, pretty standard. During Covid we prepared packed lunches for children on FSM to collect. The parents could choose weekly though. It was accompanied by whatever crisps, fruit, yoghurt, or biscuits we could lay our hands on. Also a healthy eating school. Maybe you could suggest a parents tickbox system.

AlenaMacc · 19/10/2025 09:14

BeLilacSloth · 18/10/2025 15:48

Fuck me there’s always one 🙄 cringing for you @AlenaMacc

You seem to be absolutely missing the point of OP’s thread.

It’s not about taking your DC to Greggs once in a while because you’re tired of cooking. It’s not about feeding them chicken nuggets from time to time because you’re out of time to cook dinner from scratch. It’s not about taking them out for a cake at the weekend. It’s not about giving them the occasional treat. It’s not about baking them a homemade dessert made with ingredients our grannies had in their cupboards.

It’s about feeding them crap 4 days a week at a childcare setting that they HAVE to attend in order for the parents to work such long hours because the economy is so dire.

It’s about the expectations from parents to provide a healthy lunch box, but then turning around and not following their own rules when it comes to wraparound.

It’s about feeding growing children food with 0 nutrition, which is just empty calories when they need healthy fats, protein and good carbs.

I cringe at your comprehension skills.

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 08:59

Needlenardlenoo · 19/10/2025 08:56

Capitalism.

"All that is solid melts into air..." (Marx).

I mean jam is a fairly melty solid.

Needlenardlenoo · 19/10/2025 08:59

Hmm chia seeds? Maybe they represent false consciousness.

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 08:58

And the chia seeds?

Needlenardlenoo · 19/10/2025 08:56

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 08:51

What is it about then?

Capitalism.

"All that is solid melts into air..." (Marx).

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 08:51

What is it about then?

Poppy123xyz · 19/10/2025 08:51

Ham and cheese are less healthy than jam.

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 08:47

It’s NEVER about the jam.

Needlenardlenoo · 19/10/2025 08:41

618 posts about jam.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE JAM!!

RessicaJabbit · 19/10/2025 08:27

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 about the chia seed jam.

It will be cheapest/value white bread and the cheapest/value strawberry jam. It will have cost around £1 for the whole lot. Maybe £2 depending on numbers.

They'll have been given a slice of bread and a scraping of jam.

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 08:26

And as the parent of teenagers, when I look around at the mental health struggles of many of their friends, I bet they skew heavily in favour of those parents who would have worried about the jam.

RessicaJabbit · 19/10/2025 08:25

OP: wahhhj my child is being fed a ham sandwich 4 times a week

MN: send your own food in

OP: <disappears>

Notmyreality · 19/10/2025 08:23

My son has jam sandwiches everyday for lunch.
I know, shockingly bad parenting from me. I feel awful and can barely sleep. Please MN help me. Why am I such a shit mum and human being? Why MN why!

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 08:22

It’s also striking that people are so defensive about wrap around care as ‘having no choice’ and make peace with that.

In terms of emotional development, the best thing for a baby is one or two loving caregivers to develop secure attachment. There is also research looking at it is this causing an increase in ADHD, rather than diet.

The best thing for a 4 year old is to come home to an involved, caring parent (or closest thing).

But the world doesn’t work like that anymore. We have careers we want to keep and mortgages/bills that need paying.

For some it’s a choice, for some it’s a necessity but we all make compromises.

This thread seems to take a lot of guilt about the emotional and developmental consequences of long days in childcare, and project it onto the jam.

Needlenardlenoo · 19/10/2025 08:18

AutumnCosy2025 · 18/10/2025 22:45

No shit Sherlock.

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but they should be providing something with some nutritional value. NOT any of those 3 options.

at least if it was a dippy bowl with carrots/cucumber & hummus, not eating dinner at home would be less if an issue.

but as I said veggies you gave to pick your battles, if she's happy at ASC & it's doting you need 'just ride it out' she'll soon be wanting dinner if a snack at home later on & that can be healthy and it's 4/21 meals plus more snacks at home at the weekend. Just make sure the rest is nutritious.

OMG. A dippy bowl? With 4 year olds?

Hygiene?!

Keepgettingolder81 · 19/10/2025 08:08

Is this your first child?
as an experienced parents of teenagers, as you get older you will realise that as long as they’re happy and enjoying being in childcare for larger amounts of time, they will not drop dead if they eat the odd jam sandwich or chocolate sponge cake for their afternoon tea.

If your child is settled happy and not stressed about being there. I would Class that is a win. The rest of the 24 hours in a day you can feed them healthy balanced food.

It’s just a case of priorities, with experience you’ll realise this and become less neurotic. Honestly, the children laid back parents are gonna assure you.

Diet exercise sleep are the ultimate priorities in children, but also is the ultimate relaxed parents who know when to pick their battles. Leave it be