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Jam sandwiches at wraparound care

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JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:17

My reception age DD goes to a really well arranged breakfast club and after school club 4 days a week. It works very well with 2 commuting parents. I only have one gripe and that is with the food they offer. Technically the food should align with the school’s healthy eating policy, as it’s run by the school not an external provider. The school has asked parents not to provide sweet treats in lunch boxes and it’s quite strict about sandwiches.

HOWEVER the school is not transparent about the wraparound food offer and I had to email three times to get them to tell me what they provide. Once they did, they disclosed that the after school options include a range of sandwiches, including jam, plus a pudding of cake and fruit. Of course, my four-year-old always goes for a jam sandwich and ends up with a very sweet tea 4 days a week. The school says they offer carrot sticks etc, however, not one single parent has ever mentioned this in conversation and so I just think it’s something they say but don’t provide.

We do talk at home about the importance of a balanced diet, but she’s still only four and temptation is there! She’s offered something a bit more nutritionally balanced she gets home, but she’s usually just full of jam sandwich!

I emailed the school to ask them if they are able to comment on this or if they ever review the food that they provide at wraparound care, but I haven’t received a reply. AIBU to push this further?

OP posts:
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 10:07

Val33 · 19/10/2025 10:04

I would be absolutely furious at this OP and I would keep phoning to make sure they provide something healthy for my child!

They are providing something healthy. The OP's child is not choosing the healthy option.

LaChouette · 19/10/2025 10:06

Val33 · 19/10/2025 10:04

I would be absolutely furious at this OP and I would keep phoning to make sure they provide something healthy for my child!

Being furious about something so low level really isn't good for your health.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 10:05

Ordinary cheese is surely cheaper than the processed type. I suggested grated cheese as it makes it go a lot further. Growing children need energy. Energy comes from sugar and fat. They also need protein and calcium, amongst other things. Bread with a scraping of spread (butter will be too expensive) and a scraping of jam, a wafer thin slice of ham or a teaspoonful of grated cheese seems like a decent snack to me to keep the children going till a proper meal in the evening. A tiny sandwich like that would not have prevented my children from eating their evening meal.

Val33 · 19/10/2025 10:04

I would be absolutely furious at this OP and I would keep phoning to make sure they provide something healthy for my child!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 10:02

ObtuseMoose · 19/10/2025 09:55

Rice cakes dipped in water are a once a year treat here...delicious 😋

I expect you've worked up an appetite for this feast by fasting for the other 364 days. Only safe option, really.

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 10:00

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 09:55

I doubt it is cheddar cheese though, it's much more likely to be a processed option.

Not that I have very strong opinions on whether a cheese sandwich is healthier than jam, personally.

High in saturated fat and salt. Also not great for those allergic to dairy.

tiny bit of protein certainly but if a tiny bit of cheese makes no difference, I’m not sure why a tiny bit of jam is the end of days

ObtuseMoose · 19/10/2025 09:55

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 09:53

Isn't that rice cakes? Back in the 90s they were the snack of choice for some health-conscious families in our area. I succumbed to peer pressure and bought some. Like eating a polystyrene ceiling tile. Never again.

Rice cakes dipped in water are a once a year treat here...delicious 😋

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 09:55

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 09:51

Please explain how a light grating of Cheddar cheese is less healthy than jam.

Am amazed I made it through the night, btw, as I had a ham roll for lunch yesterday. Thoughts and prayers, please.

I doubt it is cheddar cheese though, it's much more likely to be a processed option.

Not that I have very strong opinions on whether a cheese sandwich is healthier than jam, personally.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 09:53

ObtuseMoose · 19/10/2025 09:49

My cat's an amorphous solid!

Chia seed jam sounds like the most miserable thing anyone has every put in their mouth.

Isn't that rice cakes? Back in the 90s they were the snack of choice for some health-conscious families in our area. I succumbed to peer pressure and bought some. Like eating a polystyrene ceiling tile. Never again.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 09:51

Poppy123xyz · 19/10/2025 08:51

Ham and cheese are less healthy than jam.

Please explain how a light grating of Cheddar cheese is less healthy than jam.

Am amazed I made it through the night, btw, as I had a ham roll for lunch yesterday. Thoughts and prayers, please.

ObtuseMoose · 19/10/2025 09:49

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 09:23

Actually I lie, according to google it’s an amorphous solid.

My cat's an amorphous solid!

Chia seed jam sounds like the most miserable thing anyone has every put in their mouth.

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 19/10/2025 09:47

AlenaMacc · 19/10/2025 09:33

You know what - you’re right.

We should just collectively give up and instead of trying to find a proper alternative or pushing for budget changes, accept that British children will continue to be more and more obese, will have teeth pulled out at 5yo due to a high sugar diet, become shorter each year compared to other kids in Europe because of crap food.

It’s how we get ahead in life as a society - by burying our heads in the sand and saying “there’s nothing that can be done!”

Edited

It's positive, I think, that we've now reached the point of acknowledging that budget changes would be needed to change the catering. Because fundamentally, food provision in ASC comes out of a very specific set of practical and financial constraints, which we aren't going to solve merely by saying jam bad. Someone would have to pay, and it doesn't appear that parents are both willing and able to do so.

That said, I think budget changes to fund better food options in ASC would be a hard sell, especially as only a minority attend. There might be more scope for improvement of school lunches, which are increasingly appalling.

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 09:45

darkat7 · 19/10/2025 09:41

It’s not a jam sandwich. It’s a four times a week, replacing a main meal, jam sandwich. One jam sandwich just wouldn’t be an issue at all.

Yes it's a jam sandwich 4
times a week. The horror.

Its not supposed to be replacing a main meal, its supposed be a snack. it's just that the OP's child is hungry for their dinner earlier than the OP is available to provide it. That's an OP problem.

All she has to do is provide what she believes to be more suitable food herself and send it in.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 09:43

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 07:54

Sometimes I worry I’m not aware of the world around me - then I see someone wondering whether a state school after school club is serving chia seed jam.

The only one I can find to purchase commercially is £1.76 per 100g

Aldi strawberry jam is 11p per 100g

Yes our kids shouldn’t be stuffed full of sugar, and we can all sit in our ivory towers wailing about the lack of baba ganoush, but how are you actually going to solve the problem of £9 ASC giving kids a quick snack and not going bankrupt.

OP please please email the school and ask if it’s chia jam.

Edited

I could sort out the financial problems of the ASC - I'd pay for access to a webcam in the school office when that email arrives.

darkat7 · 19/10/2025 09:41

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 09:39

All this drama over a jam sandwich. Jeez. 🫠🫠🫠

The good news is that for those parents who think the jam sandwiches are going to lead to grossly obese and toothless children, they have the option of sorting alternative ASC or sending them in with home prepared food. So can we all take a deep breath and calm down in that knowledge.

It’s not a jam sandwich. It’s a four times a week, replacing a main meal, jam sandwich. One jam sandwich just wouldn’t be an issue at all.

Needlenardlenoo · 19/10/2025 09:41

AlenaMacc · 19/10/2025 09:33

You know what - you’re right.

We should just collectively give up and instead of trying to find a proper alternative or pushing for budget changes, accept that British children will continue to be more and more obese, will have teeth pulled out at 5yo due to a high sugar diet, become shorter each year compared to other kids in Europe because of crap food.

It’s how we get ahead in life as a society - by burying our heads in the sand and saying “there’s nothing that can be done!”

Edited

Let's be realistic. These are not going to be the kids who are in the ASC because both parents work, but where the mum has got enough leisure time to be emailing repeatedly about jam.

Access to NHS dental care, cut backs of all support services, and increaaing levels of poverty (the parents who can't afford ASC) as well as reduced public spaces like parks and their condition, are where we should be directing concern.

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 09:41

No @darkat7not at all, homecooked food is the ideal for mental and physical health

but the OP is choosing not to do that. Either by picking her child up, choosing afterschool care that provides this, or sending her child in with her own home prepared food.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/10/2025 09:40

MazzytheStar · 19/10/2025 06:45

OP I would be the same as you. Jam sandwiches are very unhealthy - it’s basically sugar in a sandwich.
I’m surprised at the comments on here - do people not care what their kids eat? Good food fuels their growth, brain development, balances mood, etc. Too much sugar in your diet has far reaching implications on your health & for years to come.
And it’s not once in a while - it’s 5 days a week and your child is developing a taste/preference for sugar.
I follow nutritionists & dieticians online - they are worried about the sugar & salt epidemic that’s happening right now.

Having said that did you ask was it chia jam or regular jam? Chia jam is just fruit & chia seeds (no added sugar). If that’s the case, then no problem.
But I don’t blame you for being bothered by this. The link to diet and academic performance is clearly stated

My word, I've seen it all now. £8 per child per session to cover all overheads and you think they will provide a special, very expensive jam rather than the cheapest jam available at ASDA, Aldi, Lidl, Costco or wherever they get their supplies. You are living on another planet.

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 09:39

AlenaMacc · 19/10/2025 09:33

You know what - you’re right.

We should just collectively give up and instead of trying to find a proper alternative or pushing for budget changes, accept that British children will continue to be more and more obese, will have teeth pulled out at 5yo due to a high sugar diet, become shorter each year compared to other kids in Europe because of crap food.

It’s how we get ahead in life as a society - by burying our heads in the sand and saying “there’s nothing that can be done!”

Edited

All this drama over a jam sandwich. Jeez. 🫠🫠🫠

The good news is that for those parents who think the jam sandwiches are going to lead to grossly obese and toothless children, they have the option of sorting alternative ASC or sending them in with home prepared food. So can we all take a deep breath and calm down in that knowledge.

darkat7 · 19/10/2025 09:39

AlenaMacc · 19/10/2025 09:33

You know what - you’re right.

We should just collectively give up and instead of trying to find a proper alternative or pushing for budget changes, accept that British children will continue to be more and more obese, will have teeth pulled out at 5yo due to a high sugar diet, become shorter each year compared to other kids in Europe because of crap food.

It’s how we get ahead in life as a society - by burying our heads in the sand and saying “there’s nothing that can be done!”

Edited

That’s definitely the takeaway (pun intended) here.

Oh and if you try to provide healthy, home cooked food for your children you are setting them up for a life of mental health challenges.

outofofficeagain · 19/10/2025 09:35

But @AlenaMaccwhat is to be done. What is your cheap, healthy, dairy free, vegan/vegetarian solution?

or is that not your responsibility?

it’s like delivering Brexit.

AlenaMacc · 19/10/2025 09:33

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 09:24

Presumably there will be children for whom jam sandwiches meet their dietary needs (vegan/allergies) and their parents are happy with that choice.

Why does the OP get to overrule that?

You know what - you’re right.

We should just collectively give up and instead of trying to find a proper alternative or pushing for budget changes, accept that British children will continue to be more and more obese, will have teeth pulled out at 5yo due to a high sugar diet, become shorter each year compared to other kids in Europe because of crap food.

It’s how we get ahead in life as a society - by burying our heads in the sand and saying “there’s nothing that can be done!”

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 09:31

summersolsticesoon · 19/10/2025 09:31

The queen had a jam sandwich every day of her life- I think it was a round jam sandwich called a penny.

But did it have chia seeds?

summersolsticesoon · 19/10/2025 09:31

The queen had a jam sandwich every day of her life- I think it was a round jam sandwich called a penny.

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 09:24

AlenaMacc · 19/10/2025 09:20

The answer is to not offer the jam sandwiches and only offer the savoury options and carrots sticks that they are already offering anyways - problem solved.

Hence why OP is writing emails.

Presumably there will be children for whom jam sandwiches meet their dietary needs (vegan/allergies) and their parents are happy with that choice.

Why does the OP get to overrule that?