Jam sandwiches at wraparound care

Its the double standard that's the issue - parents are banned from using these easy options in their kids packed lunches on health grounds, but its ok for school to enjoy the convenience?

I think this is what’s behind the sneery type comments.

Of course, if the OP did and gave up work to be a SAHM (because WFH with a school age child is also deemed totally unacceptable on here) then she’d get hate as well 🤷‍♀️

she’s full from all the jam!

Goodness, how much jam are they cramming into the sandwich?

I can assure you, it'll be no more than a teaspoon.

If that is filling her up, then she must have the appetite of a butterfly

I don't understand the replies you are getting. Perhaps people don't experience healthy snacks in their school. It makes absolutely no sense for a school to provide a snack that a parent would not be allowed to bring in.

Also the concept of healthy food in School is to ensure children get a healthy meal somewhere. Not every child gets a meal at home. Young people's health is changing fast due to the huge range of "non-food" items supermarkets sell and the pester power of fast food & financial pressures. It might sound overly virtuous but it is really important.

You don't get to "close the thread".

If it matters that much to you, pick a different school or send her with her own food. A jam sandwich after school is not the crisis you're making it out to be.

Bit surprised so many are so fine with the idea of kids filling up on jam sandwiches every day after school.

Jam is pretty much pure sugar its akin to the school spreading the sandwiches with chocolate spread and im pretty sure parents wouldnt appreciate their kids shovelling down chocolate spread sandwiches daily then not eating the balanced tea with vegetables, that parents have made them.

It wouldnt be allowed in our state school OP and i dont think you are being unreasonable. If parents repeatedly put jam sandwiches in lunchboxes theyd be in trouble, but its ok when school needs an easy option?!

If she was eating jam sandwiches at every meal then that would be a cause for concern. As it is she gets 4 jam sandwiches a week as part of an overall balanced diet.

Nothing to see here ........

I don't think jam is an issue either, I made two jars the other week, yes it's equal quantities of sugar and fruit (plums from my trees), but there is nothing else added, and it cannot be more than a teaspoon a day.

I would rather eat my jam than a slice of processed ham. I would love to know what the OP serves for every other meal, if it's wonderful home cooked, healthy food, than a teaspoon of jam won't kill her.

Did you open the thread so we could all tell you jam sandwiches were the work of the devil?

Be careful what your rigid rules about food at home do to your child. The children I knew who grew up in these kinds of strict regimes, all went mad on sugar/junk food as soon as they could choose for themselves, and struggle with obesity as adults.

Moderation in all things. Excessive control usually makes those subject to it desire to rebel.

They eat a chicken for 6 days so it does make sense.

😂 over a bit of jam !

I would rather jam than processed meat that is linked to development of stomach cancers.

Orthorexia look it up. You are super rigid. My mum was the same and I ended up overeating crap for a couple of years because of it being "forbidden food". Can't believe you emailed 3 times about this. My kids have healthy diets that include jam, crisps and treats. I have experienced what harm a controlling ott rigid mum can cause.

“She’s full from all the jam!” Is that most ridiculous thing I’ve read on her today and that’s going some.

She’s not full from “all the jam” though, she’s full from the sandwich.

you say you’d rather she had cheese or ham, but then she’d be full from “all the cheese/ham”

the small scraping of jam is probably less filling than cheese or ham.

why not tell them you don’t want her to eat if she’s too full for her dinner?

personally I think it’s neither here nor there which she chooses. But if sugar from the jam or the salt and preservatives from the ham. Te ham will be “reformed” anyway, which personally I wouldn’t touch with a barge pole. The cheese is likely to be pre sliced plastic so no better.

the jam is probably the healthier and less processed option.

If you don’t like it look after your own kid.

I think you’re quite right, OP. Very hypocritical from the school and jam sandwiches 4 days for tea is really quite bad. It sets up dysfunctional eating habits. When mine has too much sugar it affects mood and attention. Can you send her a snack for ASC and just ban her from the sandwiches.

lol at that comment, when you said you’d be happy if she ate a carcinogenic ham sandwich every day instead!

Are we at the same school?!? The wraparound at my DD’s school is also jam/ham/cheese sandwich on soft white bread. My child (now Yr3) usually has 1 jam & 1 cheese. We went through a period at home where she wouldn’t eat the healthy bread I was buying from the bakery as she’d discovered the joy of soft white pan bread, but it passed.
The cakes on offer are tiny and baked with less sugar. I know it seems like a lot of junk, but as she gets older she’ll get a bigger appetite and it’ll become less of an issue.
We found that when we sat down to dinner DD would eat the veg first anyway, so I’m fine that she’s getting enough nutrition.

Please please please do not make food a huge issue with a 4 year old.
It’s just a jam sandwich.
Pick your battles. She’s most likely very happy and healthy and you are able to work and provide for your family

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Sorry meant to say you're not being unreasonable to think that regularly filling small children with sugar of an afternoon is acceptable. Leads to many bad health outcomes.

Ask them to restrict how much jam sandwich ich she’s eating, so she’ll eat properly at home, or send your own sandwiches, which I think is the answer. The quality of the bread and ham is probably crap- there is no way I’d want my DC eating cheap ham, so I’d be saying they’re vegetarian.
it is annoying that they ban jam sandwiches at lunch but serve them in after school club. That would annoy me so I wouldn’t complain about their shitty jam sandwiches, I’d start sending in lunchtime sandwiches of home made bread and jam made with fruit from our garden, just to provoke them, because I’m petty like that. You’re probably letting g her have school lunches though, OP. You’d probably implode if you saw what she was actually eating for lunch.

Yes it’s a transactional arrangement, and the OP has other options

• collect child from school herself (give up work)

but I imagine none of these are convenient or affordable for the OP. Also her daughter is happy

In which case she is free to not be impressed but the repeated emails are probably a bit much.

The terrible British eh and their low standards.