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Jam sandwiches at wraparound care

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JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:17

My reception age DD goes to a really well arranged breakfast club and after school club 4 days a week. It works very well with 2 commuting parents. I only have one gripe and that is with the food they offer. Technically the food should align with the school’s healthy eating policy, as it’s run by the school not an external provider. The school has asked parents not to provide sweet treats in lunch boxes and it’s quite strict about sandwiches.

HOWEVER the school is not transparent about the wraparound food offer and I had to email three times to get them to tell me what they provide. Once they did, they disclosed that the after school options include a range of sandwiches, including jam, plus a pudding of cake and fruit. Of course, my four-year-old always goes for a jam sandwich and ends up with a very sweet tea 4 days a week. The school says they offer carrot sticks etc, however, not one single parent has ever mentioned this in conversation and so I just think it’s something they say but don’t provide.

We do talk at home about the importance of a balanced diet, but she’s still only four and temptation is there! She’s offered something a bit more nutritionally balanced she gets home, but she’s usually just full of jam sandwich!

I emailed the school to ask them if they are able to comment on this or if they ever review the food that they provide at wraparound care, but I haven’t received a reply. AIBU to push this further?

OP posts:
ilovesooty · 18/10/2025 10:01

Confused3456 · 18/10/2025 09:50

I agree it would be lovely if parents had time to parent but the sad reality is a lot of them don’t because of the jobs they happen to do.

They should not have to make up for the school’s convenience and as another poster has said, it would be nice if they could offer sweet treats to their kids without knowing that the school has already fed them their sweet treats for the day.

The biggest problem here though is that the school does not allow parents the convenience of cheap easy lunches but expect parents to be ok with the school enjoying that convenience instead!

It's probably not convenience but necessitated by budgetary restraints.

thisishowloween · 18/10/2025 10:00

oviraptor21 · 18/10/2025 09:58

After school care may be optional but it's an important part of enabling women to work - and yes, it is usually women who have to deal with a lack of ASC.

And your kid won't have lifelong health issues because they eat a few jam sandwiches after school.

Confused3456 · 18/10/2025 10:00

thisishowloween · 18/10/2025 09:56

After school care is a) optional and b) not part of the school day.

And yes, of course parents should prepare healthy options for their children, that's a basic part of being a parent. Regardless of how "important" their jobs are.

Stop being silly now.

I agree they should and I’d love to see some of the prices for healthy options come down to be honest, and whilst the odd jam sandwich isn’t the end of the world it would be nice if parents once in a while had the option to provide the something quick and easy rather than knowing the school has already done that.

Bundleflower · 18/10/2025 09:59

darkat7 · 18/10/2025 09:55

If you’re this spiteful at school, ditto.

I work two days a week. The after school provision at my sons school is not well used and only goes on until 4 so that’s all I can manage.

I have no money and my pension is affected.

Parents shouldn’t be in a position where they wish to use childcare (of any description, nursery, childminder, wraparound) but feel they can’t as the quality of care is poor.

It should be a given.

Eh? I’ve not discussed whether the hours are any good? I’ve genuinely got no idea if you intended that reply for me or not. I’m also unsure where I mentioned anybodies pension - what on earth has that got to do with a jam sandwich!?
OP made a stuck up comment about the parenting/food given by parents of British parents and, understandably, got some backs up. Do you get a jam sandwich for all of your big reaches?

Grammarninja · 18/10/2025 09:59

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:24

Ideally one of the cheese or ham ones they offer. Plus the cake. Jam is not in the same category in my eyes. It’s also a direct contradiction of their own policy!

Whatever about the contradiction, I wouldn't go to war over that. I wouldn't want dd eating jam sandwiches either (her teeth!😬) so I'd send in what I would like her to eat or ask that her sandwich not be jam. Simple.

liveforsummer · 18/10/2025 09:59

It’s a smear of fruit and sugar, won’t do any harm at all. I’d make sure my dc was still getting a hot meal at home though. A sandwich isn’t tea

oviraptor21 · 18/10/2025 09:58

After school care may be optional but it's an important part of enabling women to work - and yes, it is usually women who have to deal with a lack of ASC.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 18/10/2025 09:58

Eating jam sandwiches four times a week is surely better than processed ham which has been proven to cause colon cancer. In my mind if she’s choosing jam over ham then that is the healthy choice, at least you can balance out the sugar with a healthy, savoury tea and not giving many sugary treats the rest of the week. Much harder to balance out the long term effects of eating processed meat!

ilovesooty · 18/10/2025 09:58

darkat7 · 18/10/2025 09:48

It’s really rude to speak about someone like this and the eye roll is just pure mean girl.

She can elicit not to come back to it, which is obviously what she meant.

Thank you for your input.

thisishowloween · 18/10/2025 09:56

Confused3456 · 18/10/2025 09:54

But there are important jobs in the country that need to be done to keep the country moving. The people that do those jobs need help with wrap around care and it’s annoying they are told they must spend more time and money on preparing healthy options for their kids rather than convenient options, when the school choose that convenience for themselves.

After school care is a) optional and b) not part of the school day.

And yes, of course parents should prepare healthy options for their children, that's a basic part of being a parent. Regardless of how "important" their jobs are.

Stop being silly now.

darkat7 · 18/10/2025 09:55

Confused3456 · 18/10/2025 09:54

But there are important jobs in the country that need to be done to keep the country moving. The people that do those jobs need help with wrap around care and it’s annoying they are told they must spend more time and money on preparing healthy options for their kids rather than convenient options, when the school choose that convenience for themselves.

Quite.

darkat7 · 18/10/2025 09:55

Bundleflower · 18/10/2025 09:52

One of the best flounces I’ve seen in a while. Why bother asking a forum, of mainly, British plebs then? How’s closing the thread going for you OP? I dread to think what the school has to deal with from you.

If you’re this spiteful at school, ditto.

I work two days a week. The after school provision at my sons school is not well used and only goes on until 4 so that’s all I can manage.

I have no money and my pension is affected.

Parents shouldn’t be in a position where they wish to use childcare (of any description, nursery, childminder, wraparound) but feel they can’t as the quality of care is poor.

It should be a given.

Confused3456 · 18/10/2025 09:54

thisishowloween · 18/10/2025 09:46

What annoys me about this is that the school expect busy working parents to spend time and money preparing expensive healthy lunches but can’t be bothered with the time and expense of providing these for kids after school.

Lol yeah, how dare a school expect a parent to, y'know, parent. Shocking. You should complain to your MP about it Wink

But there are important jobs in the country that need to be done to keep the country moving. The people that do those jobs need help with wrap around care and it’s annoying they are told they must spend more time and money on preparing healthy options for their kids rather than convenient options, when the school choose that convenience for themselves.

Myfamilyisquirky · 18/10/2025 09:54

I want a jam sandwich now.

Tootiredforthis23 · 18/10/2025 09:53

I wouldn’t worry about a jam sandwich, it’ll be a very thin layer of jam as well, so not really going to amount to much over a week. And as for the cake @JBeanGarden have you ever tried the cake on school dinners these days? They’re low fat and low sugar, and taste nothing like cake.

PanderBare · 18/10/2025 09:53

maudelovesharold · 18/10/2025 09:48

Diabetic jam has been mentioned as a sugar-free alternative, but will contain artificial sweeteners, which have their own health implications. Unless you’re buying for someone who is actually diabetic, I would go for naturally sugar-free jams, such as St. Dalfour, which does a wide range of really lovely jams and a marmalade (called orange fruit spread!) sweetened only with apple juice.

The ones I checked had xylitol or sorbitol in them.

The truth about sweeteners - NHS

GooseberryFoolish · 18/10/2025 09:53

In my school a sandwich is 1/3 of a whole sandwich. A sandwich finger. Cake and biscuits are made on site, low sugar and not very nice. A lot of the kids actively refuse them, even when there's nothing else available. They are frequently abandoned after a small bite (I'm in the dinner hall).

The sugar would therefore be in around 1/3 of a teaspoon of jam and fruit sugars in the cake and fruit. While I'm sure the bread isn't great, over all I'd have no issue with this. Find out what is actually being given. I strongly doubt it's a large sandwich oozing jam and a slice of delicious cake.

Bundleflower · 18/10/2025 09:52

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:38

I’m going to close the thread. I suppose it confirmed my own opinions that the British population has an incredibly low bar with nutrition expectations for growing children.

One of the best flounces I’ve seen in a while. Why bother asking a forum, of mainly, British plebs then? How’s closing the thread going for you OP? I dread to think what the school has to deal with from you.

JoBrandsCleaner · 18/10/2025 09:52

I want some jam now.

Needlenardlenoo · 18/10/2025 09:51

Doodlingsquares · 18/10/2025 09:20

Its the double standard that's the issue - parents are banned from using these easy options in their kids packed lunches on health grounds, but its ok for school to enjoy the convenience?

There is a difference though between a state funded school day with all the rules and regulations that involves, and an optional after school club.

At the end of the day, no parent is forced to use the after school club.

I used an after school nanny for a while and it must have worked out 2 or 3 times the ASC charge.

Kirbert2 · 18/10/2025 09:50

If they were to offer different food, it would likely be more expensive. They probably can only afford to offer the basic stuff such as jam sandwiches.

Can't you just pack her a snack?

Confused3456 · 18/10/2025 09:50

outofofficeagain · 18/10/2025 09:39

None of this is the school’s job.

How dare schools expect their pupils’ parents to parent.

I agree it would be lovely if parents had time to parent but the sad reality is a lot of them don’t because of the jobs they happen to do.

They should not have to make up for the school’s convenience and as another poster has said, it would be nice if they could offer sweet treats to their kids without knowing that the school has already fed them their sweet treats for the day.

The biggest problem here though is that the school does not allow parents the convenience of cheap easy lunches but expect parents to be ok with the school enjoying that convenience instead!

LadyLapsang · 18/10/2025 09:49

Hi OP,I haven’t read all the responses, but have you checked the School Food Standards guidance? it’s available online. I think you are right to continue to challenge them on this. Perhaps if your child only attended after school care once a week it wouldn’t be such an issue, but filling up with jam sandwiches four days out of seven is not good.

darkat7 · 18/10/2025 09:48

ilovesooty · 18/10/2025 09:47

Exactly. All she can do is choose not to come back to it - or go to MNHQ and get it deleted because she doesn't like the responses. 🙄

It’s really rude to speak about someone like this and the eye roll is just pure mean girl.

She can elicit not to come back to it, which is obviously what she meant.

BuzzyBallz · 18/10/2025 09:48

It’s a jam sandwich not heroin