Jam sandwiches at wraparound care

and the children who have allergies/medical reasons/dietary needs where jam sandwiches will be an easy, quick and cheap alternative?

For example, my child has a limited diet due to medical reasons and raw veggies & hummus would be unsuitable for him to eat but you know what he could eat? jam sandwiches.

Just providing better food. I’m not sure what the NHS suggest for kids but here it’s all about limiting sugar and salt for them.

Just providing better food. I’m not sure what the NHS suggest for kids but here it’s all about limiting sugar and salt for them.

I buy my kids the sugar free diabetic Jam. Maybe they're buying a low sugar one.

Why are savoury options better ? Do you think the an after school club can afford to serve these acceptable savoury options, not all kids will be munching on carrot sticks on mass for an afternoon snack they would probably rather not eat anything then you have grouchy irritable hungry children and how does that help anybody? this just ,looks about your personal aversion to sugar.

Yes, what would this duty of care look like?

I think people are suggesting that chia jam sounds and tastes like utter despair not that it's difficult to make.

even if they did make their own chia jam, Aldi chia seeds alone are 74p per 100g even before you add the fruit.

and if you’re not suggesting staff spend their evenings making chia jam, what are you suggesting?

The queen was born in 1936. Thats basically 100 years ago. She lived in a different world.

A jam sandwich with white bread is no different from giving her a cake every day after school - and then giving her more cake for pudding. What a lot of processed, sugary crap for a very young kid.

I'm amazed people think eating that every day is fine, no wonder we have an obesity crisis!

I would send her with her own food OP and tell the staff you don't want her having any of their crap food.

Well, they're hardly difficult to wash up. IKEA style plastic bowls veg & a dollop of hummus. I'd happily shove them in a bag & take them home to wash (whether that's permitted or not, I don't know). How are they serving the ham sandwiches?

how much waste? Well if theryte all kids whose parents think ham sandwiches are a suitable tea 4 days a week, maybe quite a bit initially (lucky neighbourhood rabbits) but most kids will get used to it.

Well, they're hardly difficult to wash up. IKEA style plastic bowls veg & a dollop of hummus. I'd happily shove them in a bag & take them home to wash (whether that's permitted or not, I don't know). How are they serving the ham sandwiches?

how much waste? Well if theryte all kids whose parents think ham sandwiches are a suitable tea 4 days a week, maybe quite a bit initially (lucky neighbourhood rabbits) but most kids will get used to it.

Dear god. Can you imagine how much waste there would be in 50 dippy bowls? And who is washing the buggers up!

You seem to be absolutely missing the point of OP’s thread.

It’s not about taking your DC to Greggs once in a while because you’re tired of cooking. It’s not about feeding them chicken nuggets from time to time because you’re out of time to cook dinner from scratch. It’s not about taking them out for a cake at the weekend. It’s not about giving them the occasional treat. It’s not about baking them a homemade dessert made with ingredients our grannies had in their cupboards.

It’s about feeding them crap 4 days a week at a childcare setting that they HAVE to attend in order for the parents to work such long hours because the economy is so dire.

It’s about the expectations from parents to provide a healthy lunch box, but then turning around and not following their own rules when it comes to wraparound.

It’s about feeding growing children food with 0 nutrition, which is just empty calories when they need healthy fats, protein and good carbs.

I cringe at your comprehension skills.

Buttered crumpets aren't loaded with sugar I guess.

Individual ones. Not shared! 🙄🙄

OMG. A dippy bowl? With 4 year olds?

Hygiene?!

But some of the children in that ASC might be nearly 8. A couple of breadsticks and a cheese cube is not going to help.

When my children were little, I had a great book called Toddler Taming, written by a paediatrician originally from Northern Ireland. He mentioned once the horror of a new dietitian at the extremely monotonous diet served on the children's ward - mince one day, sausages the next. She devised a new menu, packed with nutrients, far more varied, and most of it went into the bin because the children refused to eat it. The hospital couldn't afford waste like that and the children needed to be fed. So they went back to the mince and sausages.

This is the problem. The After School Club is catering for children from a wide range of backgrounds, some of whom can't have certain foods because of medical conditions or parental instructions. They are there for a maximum of 2 and half hours a day and most of that time will be spent on play or sitting quietly reading. The snack they provide is just a small thing to keep the children going till home time.

Some of their children will go home to a lovingly prepared bowl of roasted organic vegetables and wild salmon with quinoa and toasted seeds. Some will get the cheapest available chicken nuggets and chips. Some will go home to another jam sandwich. The ASC can't solve all the problems of the world on its own. The inadequate diet some children have is mostly the responsibility of parents. There are lots of reasons why it's very difficult for some families to provide varied, nutritious food including lots of vegetables, and to get their children to eat it. It would be great if we made it a priority as a society to change this, but we don't. I can't see it changing for now, but as the NHS buckles under the challenge of dealing with preventable conditions linked to obesity, maybe things will change.

Remember Snack-a-Jacks ? They were just as bad. Salt and vinegar or cheese and onion flavoured polystyrene discs !!

Yes it's a jam sandwich 4
times a week. The horror.

Its not supposed to be replacing a main meal, its supposed be a snack. it's just that the OP's child is hungry for their dinner earlier than the OP is available to provide it. That's an OP problem.

All she has to do is provide what she believes to be more suitable food herself and send it in.