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Jam sandwiches at wraparound care

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JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:17

My reception age DD goes to a really well arranged breakfast club and after school club 4 days a week. It works very well with 2 commuting parents. I only have one gripe and that is with the food they offer. Technically the food should align with the school’s healthy eating policy, as it’s run by the school not an external provider. The school has asked parents not to provide sweet treats in lunch boxes and it’s quite strict about sandwiches.

HOWEVER the school is not transparent about the wraparound food offer and I had to email three times to get them to tell me what they provide. Once they did, they disclosed that the after school options include a range of sandwiches, including jam, plus a pudding of cake and fruit. Of course, my four-year-old always goes for a jam sandwich and ends up with a very sweet tea 4 days a week. The school says they offer carrot sticks etc, however, not one single parent has ever mentioned this in conversation and so I just think it’s something they say but don’t provide.

We do talk at home about the importance of a balanced diet, but she’s still only four and temptation is there! She’s offered something a bit more nutritionally balanced she gets home, but she’s usually just full of jam sandwich!

I emailed the school to ask them if they are able to comment on this or if they ever review the food that they provide at wraparound care, but I haven’t received a reply. AIBU to push this further?

OP posts:
AlenaMacc · 18/10/2025 14:44

Atina321 · 18/10/2025 14:41

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Such a great argument!

AlenaMacc · 18/10/2025 14:43

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 14:40

Yet bread is an absolute staple of children's diets in the uk and the amount of jam they will be given is absolutely negligible.

Yes, and this is why UK children have such high rates of obesity.

I would understand your argument if this were France and such issues weren’t so prominent, but this is the UK and the fact is that obesity rates in children are sky high here. Therefore, you argument that this is fine because so much children have bread with jam is completely invalid as it just proves my point.

Livpool · 18/10/2025 14:43

I could see the issue if it was all that was available for there are other things (even though cheap ham is worse IMO) but there are - OP’s child just chooses ham

Atina321 · 18/10/2025 14:41

AlenaMacc · 18/10/2025 14:39

White bread in the UK is full of UPFs. Jam, particularly and especially store bought one is full of sugar and has almost no fruits so 0 nutritional value. It’s essentially a sugar bomb - horrible for the teeth, horrible for the gut. Read up on it.

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AlenaMacc · 18/10/2025 14:41

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 14:36

Then pay more for wrap around clubs or get your kids collected by a nursery after school.

This is a ridiculous comment and it’s opinions like this why children in the UK struggle with their weight.

OriginalUsername2 · 18/10/2025 14:41

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 09:20

For a bit of balance, the child nutritionist and author of a range of books that many use for weaning etc, Charlotte Stirling Reed, has also recently posted about this, in the context of chocolate spread. I don’t think questioning the offer is vastly unreasonable when the school is quite clear I wouldn’t be allowed to provide the EXACT SAME THING if it came from
home.

I think it’s a reasonable question if that’s the case! They can’t have one rule for them and another for parents.

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 14:40

AlenaMacc · 18/10/2025 14:39

White bread in the UK is full of UPFs. Jam, particularly and especially store bought one is full of sugar and has almost no fruits so 0 nutritional value. It’s essentially a sugar bomb - horrible for the teeth, horrible for the gut. Read up on it.

Yet bread is an absolute staple of children's diets in the uk and the amount of jam they will be given is absolutely negligible.

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 18/10/2025 14:40

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:17

My reception age DD goes to a really well arranged breakfast club and after school club 4 days a week. It works very well with 2 commuting parents. I only have one gripe and that is with the food they offer. Technically the food should align with the school’s healthy eating policy, as it’s run by the school not an external provider. The school has asked parents not to provide sweet treats in lunch boxes and it’s quite strict about sandwiches.

HOWEVER the school is not transparent about the wraparound food offer and I had to email three times to get them to tell me what they provide. Once they did, they disclosed that the after school options include a range of sandwiches, including jam, plus a pudding of cake and fruit. Of course, my four-year-old always goes for a jam sandwich and ends up with a very sweet tea 4 days a week. The school says they offer carrot sticks etc, however, not one single parent has ever mentioned this in conversation and so I just think it’s something they say but don’t provide.

We do talk at home about the importance of a balanced diet, but she’s still only four and temptation is there! She’s offered something a bit more nutritionally balanced she gets home, but she’s usually just full of jam sandwich!

I emailed the school to ask them if they are able to comment on this or if they ever review the food that they provide at wraparound care, but I haven’t received a reply. AIBU to push this further?

First child??!

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 14:39

I mean, isn't bread and jam exactly what a gouter consists of? The classic afternoon snack for French school children (for all those determined to use this as a springboard for 'awful uk food culture' discussion).

TJk86 · 18/10/2025 14:39

You’re right OP, the food there sounds unhealthy and terrible. However, that’s what breakfast/after school clubs are known for, I’m not sure what you expected. Best way to ensure her diet is more healthy is to not delegate meals to schools. I would have another look at your priorities, change my working hours or do whatever it takes so that you can have family meals instead. Apart from the diet aspect, it doesn’t sound very nice for a 4 year old to spend such long days in school.

Alliolly · 18/10/2025 14:39

How much are they giving them? I don't consider the food mine gets at after school club a tea, it's just a snack.

AlenaMacc · 18/10/2025 14:39

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 14:36

What on earth do you think is wrong with bread, butter and jam for a snack in the context of an otherwise healthy diet?

White bread in the UK is full of UPFs. Jam, particularly and especially store bought one is full of sugar and has almost no fruits so 0 nutritional value. It’s essentially a sugar bomb - horrible for the teeth, horrible for the gut. Read up on it.

KookyRoseCrab · 18/10/2025 14:38

JillMW · 18/10/2025 14:34

I completely agree with you. Basically your child is having a sugar sandwich. Appalling for teeth, for establishing eating patterns and for preventing obesity.
The parents getting angry with you indicated to me just how we have so many eating related issues. All of these people will say that their children’s teeth are fine, they are not obese, they eat healthily the rest of the time etc but these bad habits are set in childhood. Large studies sho that we have the highest ever issues in the uk and are beginning to be worse than the US.Look at the number of women who think obesity is fine because the”average”uk dress size has risen to a size 14 to 16.
Giving a child toast and hummus for eg is no more expensive than jam. When my kids were at school it would be veg with dips, piece of fruit and cheese, toast with hummus or cottage cheese,sandwich with cucumber, plain popcorn. That type of stuff. We had the battle then with parents who wanted cake, jam sandwich and crisps insisting it was cheaper, it is not! I have just done some quick checks on wholesale prices and stand by this being the same now.

My daughters are fine 1 is a personal trainer, no weight issues and teeth that you would remortgage yer house for , but they believe in teeth care

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 14:38

JillMW · 18/10/2025 14:34

I completely agree with you. Basically your child is having a sugar sandwich. Appalling for teeth, for establishing eating patterns and for preventing obesity.
The parents getting angry with you indicated to me just how we have so many eating related issues. All of these people will say that their children’s teeth are fine, they are not obese, they eat healthily the rest of the time etc but these bad habits are set in childhood. Large studies sho that we have the highest ever issues in the uk and are beginning to be worse than the US.Look at the number of women who think obesity is fine because the”average”uk dress size has risen to a size 14 to 16.
Giving a child toast and hummus for eg is no more expensive than jam. When my kids were at school it would be veg with dips, piece of fruit and cheese, toast with hummus or cottage cheese,sandwich with cucumber, plain popcorn. That type of stuff. We had the battle then with parents who wanted cake, jam sandwich and crisps insisting it was cheaper, it is not! I have just done some quick checks on wholesale prices and stand by this being the same now.

Then give up work collect your children at 3pm and feed them yourself.

AutumnCosy2025 · 18/10/2025 14:37

Beeloux · 18/10/2025 14:05

That should be a snack. You should be cooking her a healthy dinner for when she returns home.

She's not hungry after the jam sandwich! It's worse to force a not hungry child to eat.

@JBeanGarden if you're still reading...

in your situation I'd just 'ride it out' I wouldn't be happy, but you won't get anywhere with ASC. It won't be long before DD is hungry enough to eat something nutritious at home afterwards & I wouldn't be happy with the (UPF cheap 'cheese' or cheap 'ham' either)

4/27 meals a week are currently jam sandwiches, FAR from Ideal, but if she's happy at ASC & you need her to be there, then I'd just make sure the other 23 meals are as healthy as possible (with any offer 'treats' small after meals)

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 14:36

AlenaMacc · 18/10/2025 14:35

The amount of people thinking a jam sandwich 4 days a week is a “perfectly okay” food for a 4yo child, be it a snack or tea, is crazy. No wonder the UK has a childhood obesity epidemic.

And comparing a cheese sandwich to being the same as a jam sandwich is just mind boggling. One has 0 nutritional value and is objectively bad for teeth, the other at least has protein in it and is not sugary.

Edited

What on earth do you think is wrong with bread, butter and jam for a snack in the context of an otherwise healthy diet?

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 14:36

AlenaMacc · 18/10/2025 14:35

The amount of people thinking a jam sandwich 4 days a week is a “perfectly okay” food for a 4yo child, be it a snack or tea, is crazy. No wonder the UK has a childhood obesity epidemic.

And comparing a cheese sandwich to being the same as a jam sandwich is just mind boggling. One has 0 nutritional value and is objectively bad for teeth, the other at least has protein in it and is not sugary.

Edited

Then pay more for wrap around clubs or get your kids collected by a nursery after school.

KookyRoseCrab · 18/10/2025 14:35

Atina321 · 18/10/2025 14:32

Why is a jam sandwich as a snack not acceptable? I still love a jam sandwich now and then as an adult and it is a staple snack in many houses.

There are far worse things to offer a child than a jam sandwich.

That’s what my grandson has a piece n jam ( brown bread 😂)

AlenaMacc · 18/10/2025 14:35

The amount of people thinking a jam sandwich 4 days a week is a “perfectly okay” food for a 4yo child, be it a snack or tea, is crazy. No wonder the UK has a childhood obesity epidemic.

And comparing a cheese sandwich to being the same as a jam sandwich is just mind boggling. One has 0 nutritional value and is objectively bad for teeth, the other at least has protein in it and is not sugary.

JillMW · 18/10/2025 14:34

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:32

Except she’s full from all the jam!
Those talking about what she will eat later in her school life, is not really my issue now. She is 4 and setting the foundations for healthy eating in later life. I did not eat badly at secondary school and we are very consciously educating about real food and do not eat UPF at home, so are willing to bend on this for ease of school.

I completely agree with you. Basically your child is having a sugar sandwich. Appalling for teeth, for establishing eating patterns and for preventing obesity.
The parents getting angry with you indicated to me just how we have so many eating related issues. All of these people will say that their children’s teeth are fine, they are not obese, they eat healthily the rest of the time etc but these bad habits are set in childhood. Large studies sho that we have the highest ever issues in the uk and are beginning to be worse than the US.Look at the number of women who think obesity is fine because the”average”uk dress size has risen to a size 14 to 16.
Giving a child toast and hummus for eg is no more expensive than jam. When my kids were at school it would be veg with dips, piece of fruit and cheese, toast with hummus or cottage cheese,sandwich with cucumber, plain popcorn. That type of stuff. We had the battle then with parents who wanted cake, jam sandwich and crisps insisting it was cheaper, it is not! I have just done some quick checks on wholesale prices and stand by this being the same now.

KookyRoseCrab · 18/10/2025 14:34

I remember picking my 2 girls up from school at 3pm ( didn’t have after school care ) and I would put the tea on there and then and it stopped them picking later , they had a plate of cereal going to bed

Atina321 · 18/10/2025 14:32

Why is a jam sandwich as a snack not acceptable? I still love a jam sandwich now and then as an adult and it is a staple snack in many houses.

There are far worse things to offer a child than a jam sandwich.

BuckChuckets · 18/10/2025 14:29

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 09:29

We talk about eating all sorts of foods, we try things that are new, we make sure we put a bit of everything on our plate. It’s very simple and not rigid at all. She doesn’t know it’s ‘a balanced diet’.

So you're completely breezy about diet around her? I'm going to guess based on your comments on this thread that you're definitely not! The last thing you want is your child growing up with issues around food.

FormidableMizzP · 18/10/2025 14:28

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:32

Except she’s full from all the jam!
Those talking about what she will eat later in her school life, is not really my issue now. She is 4 and setting the foundations for healthy eating in later life. I did not eat badly at secondary school and we are very consciously educating about real food and do not eat UPF at home, so are willing to bend on this for ease of school.

Good grief! I bet you're fun at parties 🤣🤣🤣

VaccineSticker · 18/10/2025 14:27

Schools are struggling with budgets.
They are trying their best.

If having a jam sandwich at school is your biggest worry, then count yourself lucky. And I mean this in the kindest way.

Send your child with a packed tea if you’re unhappy with the situation.

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