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Jam sandwiches at wraparound care

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JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:17

My reception age DD goes to a really well arranged breakfast club and after school club 4 days a week. It works very well with 2 commuting parents. I only have one gripe and that is with the food they offer. Technically the food should align with the school’s healthy eating policy, as it’s run by the school not an external provider. The school has asked parents not to provide sweet treats in lunch boxes and it’s quite strict about sandwiches.

HOWEVER the school is not transparent about the wraparound food offer and I had to email three times to get them to tell me what they provide. Once they did, they disclosed that the after school options include a range of sandwiches, including jam, plus a pudding of cake and fruit. Of course, my four-year-old always goes for a jam sandwich and ends up with a very sweet tea 4 days a week. The school says they offer carrot sticks etc, however, not one single parent has ever mentioned this in conversation and so I just think it’s something they say but don’t provide.

We do talk at home about the importance of a balanced diet, but she’s still only four and temptation is there! She’s offered something a bit more nutritionally balanced she gets home, but she’s usually just full of jam sandwich!

I emailed the school to ask them if they are able to comment on this or if they ever review the food that they provide at wraparound care, but I haven’t received a reply. AIBU to push this further?

OP posts:
Cherrytree86 · 18/10/2025 16:51

why don’t they just give the kids a yoghurt and a banana or something? Why does it need to be a sandwich? Seems a bit much considering the children will be having a meal at home not that long after.

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 16:50

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 16:33

Agreed, so pay more.

My needing childcare days are well behind me, thank God. I now provide childcare for my GC's and happy to say, a jam sandwich has never passed their lips in my care 🤣

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 18/10/2025 16:49

Aren’t the ASC offerings just meant to tide them over until they get home? I doubt my dd knows exactly what her 3 are offered every day, but I can guarantee they’ll be hoovering it up whatever it is - jam or not - and all are very slim, active and healthy. Gdd1 did once ask me for warm milk ‘like I get at ASC’ - other than that I don’t know, but dd certainly won’t be picking holes - she’s very grateful for the ASC, and the Gdcs love it.

Dh once went to fetch Gds a bit early - he was most put out and Dh had to go back later!

limescale · 18/10/2025 16:37

I do find it really strange that you really had to dig to find out what food was on offer.
Surely other parents have asked and there must be some with allergies or food preferences (vegetarian) that need to be noted.
Is there no menu available for parents to view when they collect their child?
I'm sure an ofsted regulated setting has to make that available.

Anyway, I also would not want my small children eating jam sandwiches 4 times a week. Unless they are being given just a snack ie allowed to go and help themselves then I can understand how they are filling themselves up.

I always found the 'well we do offer carrots' line a bit much, when everyone (the carers, the parents and the children) knew they'd choose the biscuits every time.

If lunch is at midday they're hungry by 4 or 5pm.

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 18/10/2025 16:36

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 16:35

I think she flounced hours ago.

Yes, apparently MN isn't sufficiently pro ham for her.

Rosscameasdoody · 18/10/2025 16:36

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 16:22

Those kitchens don't exist anymore, neither do the staff.

That was my point.

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 16:35

StrawberryJangle · 18/10/2025 16:35

Mmmm wafer thin donkey ham.

😁😂

StrawberryJangle · 18/10/2025 16:35

JBeanGarden · 18/10/2025 08:24

Ideally one of the cheese or ham ones they offer. Plus the cake. Jam is not in the same category in my eyes. It’s also a direct contradiction of their own policy!

Mmmm wafer thin donkey ham.

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 16:35

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 18/10/2025 16:33

Pretty much, yes!

I think she flounced hours ago.

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 18/10/2025 16:33

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 16:31

I've lost track, sorry 🫣 in which case, OP has a solution but is choosing not to take it 🥱

Pretty much, yes!

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 16:33

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 16:31

I've lost track, sorry 🫣 in which case, OP has a solution but is choosing not to take it 🥱

It's been suggested to the OP that if she doesn't like what's on offer, she should provide her own.

Which I agree is the answer, if the parents want higher quality food without paying higher fees.

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 16:33

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 16:32

But I do stand by my rant about sugar and UPF's!,

Agreed, so pay more.

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 16:32

But I do stand by my rant about sugar and UPF's!,

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 16:31

Charge £25 a session, things will improve, that means you'll have Hung onto your job if on minimum wage you'll not have made a penny for those two hours though.

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 16:31

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 16:28

This has been suggested to the OP, but she didn't seem too keen.

I've lost track, sorry 🫣 in which case, OP has a solution but is choosing not to take it 🥱

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 16:28

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 16:27

Well in that case and to save all arguments, parents should provide a pack up and then their child eats the food of their choice but I do reiterate my original argument, sugar filled foods and UPF's should not be fed to kids at all and certainly not on a regular basis

This has been suggested to the OP, but she didn't seem too keen.

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 16:27

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/10/2025 16:21

Another poster said she was paying £8 for a session for each child. That has to cover staff costs, insurance, any materials needed for activities, drinks and snacks. Please explain how they can provide something other than toast or a tiny basic sandwich as an after-school snack on that amount of money.

Well in that case and to save all arguments, parents should provide a pack up and then their child eats the food of their choice but I do reiterate my original argument, sugar filled foods and UPF's should not be fed to kids at all and certainly not on a regular basis

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 16:27

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 16:23

If they're hungry and that is the only option, they will eat it! That is no excuse at all. Giving kids crap food because they refuse the food better for them is really poor parenting and chicken was an example

I expect they have jam as an option to cater for children who are vegan / have dairy allergies.

It's not ASC's fault that the OP's child refuses the ham/cheese.

Chicken was an example, sure, but not a practical one. So not really much help.

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 16:27

thisishowloween · 18/10/2025 16:21

You don't need to be a trained chef but you do need your food hygiene qualifications. You also need access to a microwave or oven to begin with, which many ASC's don't have.

Also, if one staff member is in the kitchen cooking and preparing food, you need to pay someone else to supervise the children to keep within ratio.

Exactly. The ratio has to be upheld.

Kirbert2 · 18/10/2025 16:27

Nineandahalf · 18/10/2025 15:31

Oh I see yes, you're criticising my working hours . I thought we were discussing food.
Yes I agree, it's difficult. But I'm a teacher so I do get the holidays off with them.

I'm sure people would have something to say if all teachers who are parents (and largely women) decided not to teach any more.

GoldenRosebee · 18/10/2025 16:25

opencecilgee · 18/10/2025 08:48

Yanbu. My kid would live on jam sandwiches given the choice

but, is a ham sandwich particularly nutritious? Probably not

yeah, OP obviously haven't heard about nitrates.

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 16:25

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/10/2025 16:21

Another poster said she was paying £8 for a session for each child. That has to cover staff costs, insurance, any materials needed for activities, drinks and snacks. Please explain how they can provide something other than toast or a tiny basic sandwich as an after-school snack on that amount of money.

You can't

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 16:23

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 18/10/2025 16:21

I can't be the only one who wouldn't fancy giving their kids any chicken, cheese or ham that was cheaper then the sort of jam the ASC is no doubt using.

Quite

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 16:23

TheKeatingFive · 18/10/2025 16:19

Chicken is not cheaper than jam. I'm sure you know that if you'd paused to think.

The A/S offers ham and cheese sandwiches as well as jam. The OP's child won't eat those though.

If they're hungry and that is the only option, they will eat it! That is no excuse at all. Giving kids crap food because they refuse the food better for them is really poor parenting and chicken was an example

justasking111 · 18/10/2025 16:22

Rosscameasdoody · 18/10/2025 16:10

Used to be done years ago. Fresh ingredients bought in bulk and prepared on the premises.

Those kitchens don't exist anymore, neither do the staff.