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WIBTA if I refuse to cater for my ‘vegan’ MIL?

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Veganornotvegan · 17/10/2025 21:15

My MIL recently announced that she is vegan. Great. Love that for her.

This obviously came with a request that whenever we cater for her (think Sunday lunch, dinner parties, events, etc.) we cater for her as a vegan. All good so far.

However, she says she’s vegan, but she’s not. Two recent examples when we’ve been out for dinner, she ordered a vegan chilli, but with a side of dairy sour cream (“to make it less spicy”), or a vegan roast dinner, with a side of normal Yorkshire puddings (because “there’s no vegan alternative”).

We are hosting a typical 3 / (4 with cheese course) course Christmas dinner for 14 adults and 4 children, no one else has any dietary restrictions or requirements, and my MIL wants me to make a separate vegan version of everything just for her (no duck fat potatoes, no honey roast parsnips, no meat dripping gravy, etc). WIBTA if I said no / she needs to bring her own?

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Abouttoblow · 18/10/2025 00:19

Greenwitchart · 17/10/2025 21:24

It really is not that hard to plan a vegan meal these days.

All supermarkets have a good selection of vegan products now. Just get her a vegan roast and she can have with vegetables.

It I ludicrous to expect a guest to bring their own food to a Christmas meal.

"It I ludicrous to expect a guest to bring their own food to a Christmas meal."

And it's ludicrous to expect your host to provide a vegan meal when you're not actually vegan.

Veganornotvegan · 18/10/2025 00:15

prelovedusername · 18/10/2025 00:08

A caveat to my post above, has your MIL gone from vegetarian to vegan? In which case it wouldn’t be ok to serve her animal based food if she wouldn’t have eaten it previously. But if she was a meat eater and has recently gone vegan, it won’t kill her to relax her principles for the day.

No she was not a vegetarian beforehand, in fact quite the carnivore! Used to eat a lot more meat than I do (although I know you wouldn’t think that from my Christmas dinner menu, but Christmas is a special occasion!)

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CrispieCake · 18/10/2025 00:13

This is a DH one - put him in charge of sorting vegan alternatives.

OakleyAnnie · 18/10/2025 00:12

Veganornotvegan · 17/10/2025 21:29

It’s not just the meat replacement though, it’s very easy to buy a nut roast and whack that in the oven. It’s that many of the trimmings will also not be vegan. The gravy won’t be vegan (will have meat juices in), the potatoes won’t be (cooked in duck fat), the roast carrots and parsnips won’t be (I typically use honey), the stuffing I make isn’t vegan, and all of these items for her will require their own tray and utensils to be truly vegan. Same with starters and desserts (I cook both from scratch). It’s a lot of work for someone who seemingly only commits to their veganism when it suits them. Interesting to see that the reaction so far is somewhat split though. I’ll likely accommodate her because who wants to rock the boat, just interested to see the general consensus.
thanks for your comment!

It’s easy to do the potatoes and veg. Just put a few of each together in a small baking tin before you add the fat and honey to the rest. Roast plain in olive oil. Buy a ready made vegan gravy, quorn roast, stuffing it whatever. She might not get every single item but then she’s being pretty demanding so simple should suffice

Arrrrrrragghhh · 18/10/2025 00:10

DEAROP · 17/10/2025 21:29

I'd do it just because I'm not the vegan police. I'm not the police of anything. I'd still cook halal or a kosher meal for a Muslim or Jewish friend who I knew "broke the rules" sometimes. I'd still cook a low fat/carbon meal for a dieting friend who I know "cheats" all the time. I'd still host a no-alcohol dinner party for a friend who I know has relapsed in the recent past.

I know eating a halal/kosher/healthier diet or sober lifestyle is what they are aspiring to and it isn't my place to appraise their success.

Why though? If people are fine to eat non halal, kosher, vegan food when I would follow suit As long as there's enough stuff they can eat to follow their code I. wouldn’ t sweat the rest. So environmentally unfriendly to buy/cook two separate version’s

NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/10/2025 00:08

@NormasArse most Quorn, except the stuff specifically marked vegan, has egg as the binding agent. And quite a few Quorn things also contain milk.

prelovedusername · 18/10/2025 00:08

A caveat to my post above, has your MIL gone from vegetarian to vegan? In which case it wouldn’t be ok to serve her animal based food if she wouldn’t have eaten it previously. But if she was a meat eater and has recently gone vegan, it won’t kill her to relax her principles for the day.

SprayWhiteDung · 18/10/2025 00:08

CrimsonStoat · 17/10/2025 22:37

I'm mostly vegan, and that's good enough for me.

It wouldn't be good enough for many other people though who expect perfection and berate you when you can't be perfect for whatever reason.

Live and let live, it's hardly onerous to cook parsnips in maple syrup instead of honey for instance. Why make a fuss, even if MiL ends up not keeping to her ideal and scoffing some turkey.

But in this case, it's OP's MIL who is doing the berating of other people for not being vegan - even though she is not a 'proper' vegan herself. It reminds me a bit of the old comment about the man who "the more he goes on about how scrupulously honest he is, the quicker you count your spoons".

If there are foods that you don't like/are not willing to eat, there's nothing wrong with being upfront about it; but to put somebody to the trouble of catering for your expressed wishes for nothing is really rude.

It doesn't matter whether those wishes are that you're vegan, vegetarian, kosher, you don't eat X, you only eat X, you're 'vegetarian' apart from chicken, you don't like any vegetables apart from carrots and peas, or whatever - but don't tell lies about it and put your host to a whole load of completely unnecessary trouble. Have some respect for them.

NormasArse · 17/10/2025 23:59

SmellsLikeTeenArmpit · 17/10/2025 21:49

Quorn roasts aren't vegan 😂

Aren’t they? What’s in them that isn’t?

prelovedusername · 17/10/2025 23:55

Tell her you can’t guarantee there won’t be cross contamination with animal products as you’ll be putting everything in the same oven so she’ll either need to take her chances or bring her own. Then serve her the same as everyone else.

Veganornotvegan · 17/10/2025 23:46

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 17/10/2025 23:41

I think you're being very kind to accommodate.

It shouldn't be difficult. If you're thinking of an individual nut or quorn roast, just add some potatoes and parsnips etc onto the tray with it, separate from your lovely fancy versions. Just salt, pepper or paprika and olive oil will be lovely. A microwave pouch of vegan gravy and she's good to go.

An individual pot of dessert from the supermarket, and one vegan cheese (blurgh) plus plenty of fruit for the final course.

A microwave pouch of vegan gravy is a great idea! Quick and easy, and won’t be taking up a hob. I hadn’t thought of that. Thank you!

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Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 17/10/2025 23:41

I think you're being very kind to accommodate.

It shouldn't be difficult. If you're thinking of an individual nut or quorn roast, just add some potatoes and parsnips etc onto the tray with it, separate from your lovely fancy versions. Just salt, pepper or paprika and olive oil will be lovely. A microwave pouch of vegan gravy and she's good to go.

An individual pot of dessert from the supermarket, and one vegan cheese (blurgh) plus plenty of fruit for the final course.

busybusybusy2015 · 17/10/2025 23:36

saraclara · 17/10/2025 22:57

Vegan wellington
A few roasties in a separate pan in oil.
Before mashing, take out a few potatoes and mash then separately
Pack of microwave steam veg
Frozen stuffing balls
Bisto veg gravy

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This, putting her potatoes in a separate tiny pan/dish inside the potato tray or there won't be room in the oven. And she will have to come and make the Bisto when asked because it'll take some juggling for space and utensils.

Veganornotvegan · 17/10/2025 23:35

NoBinturongsHereMate · 17/10/2025 23:02

The majority of vegans, and vegetarians, would definitely want separate spoons, roasting trays etc.

I have vegetarian and vegan friends (just none of them will be there for Christmas) and when I’ve done dinner parties, or BBQs etc. I would always use separate trays and utensils for them. We even bought a second (smaller) BBQ that we only use for vegan foods. I wouldn’t feel comfortable mixing the meat bits with the vegan bits.

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DrowningInSyrup · 17/10/2025 23:34

NoBinturongsHereMate · 17/10/2025 23:02

The majority of vegans, and vegetarians, would definitely want separate spoons, roasting trays etc.

Yeah, I think it is too much to ask. If I was the vegan in this scenario I would eat the sides that I could, but bring something for myself to eat too. I'd also feel a bit shame faced, because my Quorn burger looked shite.

Gingercar · 17/10/2025 23:29

Roast a few potatoes in oil (I think they’re much nicer anyway) and do a few parsnips/carrots in maple syrup (just as nice as honey), then freeze them -just reheat on the day. Add a jug of bisto gravy, which is vegan, and voilà. She gets a nice, vegan Xmas dinner and you can have all the meaty stuff. It’s not exactly much more effort.

Luna6 · 17/10/2025 23:27

Can’t you cook it in advance and freeze it.

Veganornotvegan · 17/10/2025 23:27

Veganornotvegan · 17/10/2025 23:22

Last year I made a dark chocolate orange rum cocktail, and blackberry gin and champagne type cocktail. They both had Christmas pun names, but I can’t remember them now (might have them on a menu I printed somewhere, might find them when I get the Christmas decorations out again).

And I did a spiced apple one too, forgot about that!

I do like to make it hard for myself with so much to do. 😂

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DEAROP · 17/10/2025 23:25

SprayWhiteDung · 17/10/2025 22:02

The problem with that, though, is if you've deliberately put yourself out to obey their clearly-stated rules (maybe compromising/missing out on something that you particularly like), and then they go ahead and break their rules when it suits them to do so.

Expecting somebody to keep to your standards when you don't yourself is really very cheeky.

On the other hand, if you're in a restaurant and they make a big play about checking that their chosen main meal is vegan first, but then go ahead and choose a non-vegan dessert afterwards, absolutely fine, their choice.

It won't kill me for one meal. In many cases, it is likely a healthier alternative. Saying that, I wouldn't have a partner with such dietary restrictions if it was something I could screen out early on. I wouldn't want this to be part of my every day.

LillyPJ · 17/10/2025 23:25

FeistyFrankie · 17/10/2025 23:20

Sticking to a strictly vegan diet can be really difficult, especially if dining out in restaurants, so I think you should cut her some slack, tbh. Asking her to bring her own food would be incredibly rude and unwelcoming. Do you not like her much, OP? Because it seems like you're grasping for "something" to hold against her.

I think it's a bit rude to go to someone's place for dinner, then expect them to cook something special just for you. I can see I'm in a minority, but if I decided to go vegan, I'd see it as my choice and wouldn't expect others to go out of their way for me. I'd just eat the things I wanted and not the things I didn't want.

Christmasbear1 · 17/10/2025 23:24

For honey carrots you can use Algarve syrup or maple syrup
buy an vegan instant gravy
be frozen roast potato's that are not in animal fat and cook hers separately in the air fryer
I would cater to her and if she want to eat the non vegan food then it's up to her

Changename12 · 17/10/2025 23:23

I know you said that you like to use honey on your parsnips and so do I. The other day I followed a recipe (Ottolenghi) that used Dijon mustard and Maple Syrup on root vegetables. It was delicious and I will now use this instead of honey.

Veganornotvegan · 17/10/2025 23:22

99bottlesofkombucha · 17/10/2025 23:02

Tell us more about special Christmas cocktails op :)

Last year I made a dark chocolate orange rum cocktail, and blackberry gin and champagne type cocktail. They both had Christmas pun names, but I can’t remember them now (might have them on a menu I printed somewhere, might find them when I get the Christmas decorations out again).

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FeistyFrankie · 17/10/2025 23:20

Sticking to a strictly vegan diet can be really difficult, especially if dining out in restaurants, so I think you should cut her some slack, tbh. Asking her to bring her own food would be incredibly rude and unwelcoming. Do you not like her much, OP? Because it seems like you're grasping for "something" to hold against her.

inappropriateraspberry · 17/10/2025 23:18

My daughter and I are pescatarian. At Christmas we have a veggie alternative with all the veg (potatoes roasted without duck fat or beef dripping!) and some vegan gravy. Lidl do a lovely vegan gravy, easy to warm up. It’s not hard, and if she helps herself to bread sauce, cream or cheese, that’s on her.
If you want pancetta etc, just keep a portion back and roast/cook separately. If she can’t have stuffing or pigs in blankets, that’s her choice. Don’t go out of your way, but give her a vegan meal!