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WIBTA if I refuse to cater for my ‘vegan’ MIL?

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Veganornotvegan · 17/10/2025 21:15

My MIL recently announced that she is vegan. Great. Love that for her.

This obviously came with a request that whenever we cater for her (think Sunday lunch, dinner parties, events, etc.) we cater for her as a vegan. All good so far.

However, she says she’s vegan, but she’s not. Two recent examples when we’ve been out for dinner, she ordered a vegan chilli, but with a side of dairy sour cream (“to make it less spicy”), or a vegan roast dinner, with a side of normal Yorkshire puddings (because “there’s no vegan alternative”).

We are hosting a typical 3 / (4 with cheese course) course Christmas dinner for 14 adults and 4 children, no one else has any dietary restrictions or requirements, and my MIL wants me to make a separate vegan version of everything just for her (no duck fat potatoes, no honey roast parsnips, no meat dripping gravy, etc). WIBTA if I said no / she needs to bring her own?

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 18/10/2025 01:31

She is a vegan/vegetarian.
It can be difficult to stick with a vegan diet.
Of course you should make an effort to cook something she wants, even if it is a microwave job.
I don't understand why you would make this fuss.

Kimura · 18/10/2025 01:26

Negroany · 18/10/2025 01:20

I wouldn't cook an entire separate vegan dish for them - I'd do a vegan meal for everyone. I once catered for DPs family, nine of us, one vegan. We all ate vegan food. Twice. Noone died.

I like my friends too much to inflict that on them.

MumChp · 18/10/2025 01:25

Tiredofbullsit · 18/10/2025 01:22

I wouldn’t eat a vegan meal. It’s Christmas bloody dinner! Why spoil it for everyone else for the sake of one person?!

I don't mind eating in a vegan household. I know that it will be a vegan meal. They don't pander to my eating style.
That's the weird thing really. Going to my vegan friends' house they won't do any extra for me.

PigletJohn · 18/10/2025 01:24

If you are going to the trouble of providing vegan food, make sure you snatch away any cream, or cheese, or other non-vegan treats that she might reach for.

No chocolates unless warranted dairy free.

DidSheJustSayThat · 18/10/2025 01:23

5foot5 · 18/10/2025 01:18

OK, sorry. Yes we have a double oven. Not that unusual is it? I suggested putting the vegan stuff in a separate oven to the meat in case people worried about spatter.

I am not vegetarian but I do my best to provide something everyone can eat when there is a get together

Yes, lots of ovens are double ovens so not that uncommon. We actually have 2 completely separate ovens as I’m vegan so my oven never has animal products in it.

Tiredofbullsit · 18/10/2025 01:22

Negroany · 18/10/2025 01:20

I wouldn't cook an entire separate vegan dish for them - I'd do a vegan meal for everyone. I once catered for DPs family, nine of us, one vegan. We all ate vegan food. Twice. Noone died.

I wouldn’t eat a vegan meal. It’s Christmas bloody dinner! Why spoil it for everyone else for the sake of one person?!

willowstar · 18/10/2025 01:22

I was vegetarian for 33 years, went vegan two years ago. I completely understand the hassle this causes other people and feel bad about it. My take is that I am vegan unless it is really socially awkward and would make someone feel uncomfortable.

As in, if I went to someone's house and they had made something for me and used honey I would just eat it and not saying anything. When I was vegetarian it happened a lot with people making me something then adding parmesan, which isn't vegetarian. So I would eat it because I didn't want to make a fuss and cause someone else to feel bad who was obviously trying to cater for me.

I would never, ever discuss my food and lifestyle choices with anyone though unless they happen to ask, and I would never dream of trying to impose my beliefs on anyone else.

So..I would make some effort for her but if she is going on about it and trying to impose her values on you, I wouldn't go all out! On the other hand, maple syrup or brown sugar is a really easy swap for honey and I think is far nicer anyway so might be an easy win.

MumChp · 18/10/2025 01:22

Negroany · 18/10/2025 01:20

I wouldn't cook an entire separate vegan dish for them - I'd do a vegan meal for everyone. I once catered for DPs family, nine of us, one vegan. We all ate vegan food. Twice. Noone died.

I would stay at home if I was served a vegan Xmas dinner. No thank you and I eat very little meat.

Negroany · 18/10/2025 01:20

Kimura · 18/10/2025 01:13

Oh I'd never invite one, I just meant if one turned up by accident.

Obvious jokes aside, if I invited someone I knew to be vegan for food I'd sort them something.

But in a situation like the one OP describes, there's no way I'd be doing a separate version of multiple dishes for a pretend vegan.

To be fair, if I was cooking a chilli, curry, pasta or whatever for friends, I don't think I'd be doing and entire vegan version of the same dish for one person.

We have one vegan friend in our group who usually takes her own food to BBQs, parties etc as she doesn't want to put people out, which I think is polite of her.

I wouldn't cook an entire separate vegan dish for them - I'd do a vegan meal for everyone. I once catered for DPs family, nine of us, one vegan. We all ate vegan food. Twice. Noone died.

DidSheJustSayThat · 18/10/2025 01:20

5foot5 · 18/10/2025 01:10

Yes but how hard is it to bung a Quorn steak , or whatever, in the second oven and cook the potatoes in olive oil.

It sounds like lots of OPs food will include animal products so more difficult than you’re saying. I’m vegan so definitely in favour of people being vegan, but I can understand the annoyance of changing foods or preparing extra foods for someone who may end up just eating the other stuff because they’re not actually vegan.

MumChp · 18/10/2025 01:19

5foot5 · 18/10/2025 01:18

OK, sorry. Yes we have a double oven. Not that unusual is it? I suggested putting the vegan stuff in a separate oven to the meat in case people worried about spatter.

I am not vegetarian but I do my best to provide something everyone can eat when there is a get together

Very few people I know have a second oven. We don't either.

5foot5 · 18/10/2025 01:18

MumChp · 18/10/2025 01:12

Second oven?

OK, sorry. Yes we have a double oven. Not that unusual is it? I suggested putting the vegan stuff in a separate oven to the meat in case people worried about spatter.

I am not vegetarian but I do my best to provide something everyone can eat when there is a get together

Kimura · 18/10/2025 01:13

Algen · 18/10/2025 00:47

That’s not very welcoming to someone you’ve presumably chosen to invite!

If I invite someone for a meal, I’ll make sure there’s something they can eat (and will hopefully like, although some restrictions are more difficult e.g. I won’t cook for a coeliac due to not being able to guarantee no cross-contamination, so would have to serve something pre-packaged)

Oh I'd never invite one, I just meant if one turned up by accident.

Obvious jokes aside, if I invited someone I knew to be vegan for food I'd sort them something.

But in a situation like the one OP describes, there's no way I'd be doing a separate version of multiple dishes for a pretend vegan.

To be fair, if I was cooking a chilli, curry, pasta or whatever for friends, I don't think I'd be doing and entire vegan version of the same dish for one person.

We have one vegan friend in our group who usually takes her own food to BBQs, parties etc as she doesn't want to put people out, which I think is polite of her.

MumChp · 18/10/2025 01:12

5foot5 · 18/10/2025 01:10

Yes but how hard is it to bung a Quorn steak , or whatever, in the second oven and cook the potatoes in olive oil.

Second oven?

MumChp · 18/10/2025 01:11

Don't pander to it. Don't waste too much time A microwave meal, some vegetables and a dessert from m&s. Let her eat whatever she likes on the day.

Negroany · 18/10/2025 01:11

Some people can be so mean spirited, why bother to host people at all if you're going to be nasty to them?

5foot5 · 18/10/2025 01:10

DidSheJustSayThat · 18/10/2025 01:06

I think OP just isn’t keen on going to extra effort for someone who might end up eating the non vegan foods, which is fair enough.

Yes but how hard is it to bung a Quorn steak , or whatever, in the second oven and cook the potatoes in olive oil.

Crankyaboutfood · 18/10/2025 01:10

BIWI · 17/10/2025 21:20

I’m sorry but no matter how irritating this might be, she is a guest and you are hosting. Therefore you should provide her with something vegan.

That said, it doesn’t have to be very nice!

yes. if she asked for vegan i would serve her vegan food. things like duck fat etc are not even vegetarian. she may be transitioning or thought some options were out of her co trol. just be kind and accommodate instead of judging her.

Negroany · 18/10/2025 01:08

NeighbourDespair · 18/10/2025 01:03

I don’t know anyone who makes duck fat roast potatoes or “meat dripping” gravy.

I don't know anyone who doesn't make meat dripping gravy with a roast.

I don't bother with duck fat for potatoes but I have done goose fat ones at Christmas now and then.

5foot5 · 18/10/2025 01:07

NeighbourDespair · 18/10/2025 01:03

I don’t know anyone who makes duck fat roast potatoes or “meat dripping” gravy.

Duck or goose fat potatoes are pretty mainstream, you can buy the fat in most supermarkets.It gives lovely results. But it's easy enough to use olive oil instead if you are entertaining a vegetarian.

DidSheJustSayThat · 18/10/2025 01:06

5foot5 · 18/10/2025 01:02

I think the phrase "perfect is the enemy of good" might apply here. So your MIL is mostly vegan but makes the occasional exception. So what? Are you suggesting that because she likes Yorkshire puddings she might as well just give it up and have a big juicy steak?

It's not that hard to accommodate the vegetarian/ vegan alongside the omnivores. I have done it before now. I got a vegan something or other substitute for the meat which I cooked in the small oven. Roast potatoes in olive oil might not be quite as nice as with goose fat but really not bad. The rest of the veg is fairly inoffensive. And it sounds like your MIL will be pragmatic about any slip ups.

I think OP just isn’t keen on going to extra effort for someone who might end up eating the non vegan foods, which is fair enough.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/10/2025 01:06

Also, put Gavin and Stacey on when Pam pretends to be veg

Negroany · 18/10/2025 01:06

Veganornotvegan · 17/10/2025 21:29

It’s not just the meat replacement though, it’s very easy to buy a nut roast and whack that in the oven. It’s that many of the trimmings will also not be vegan. The gravy won’t be vegan (will have meat juices in), the potatoes won’t be (cooked in duck fat), the roast carrots and parsnips won’t be (I typically use honey), the stuffing I make isn’t vegan, and all of these items for her will require their own tray and utensils to be truly vegan. Same with starters and desserts (I cook both from scratch). It’s a lot of work for someone who seemingly only commits to their veganism when it suits them. Interesting to see that the reaction so far is somewhat split though. I’ll likely accommodate her because who wants to rock the boat, just interested to see the general consensus.
thanks for your comment!

Agave nectar on carrots and parsnips is just as good actually. Or maple syrup, though that is quite strong. Maybe try them out in advance to see if you like it?

I'd do her a vegan nut thing, adapt the carrots etc and do her a small separate tray of roast spuds, but if no oven room, she would be given boiled spuds instead I'm afraid. Having said that, I prefer roasties done with a really posh rape seed oil anyway myself.

Buy a ready made dessert. I cater for vegans quite a bit, and I don't mind if they scoff a non vegan item now and then. They don't mind if they don't have 100% home made food. I try to keep tools etc separate but they wouldn't know if I slipped up a bit (obviously if it was an allergy I'd be a lot more careful).

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/10/2025 01:05

I am veggie and I have to bring my own food to xmases that my brother and his family host