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Is anyone else planning to leave the UK?

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AuntieMeemz · 17/10/2025 09:59

Everything we gain, earn or get is taxed and we are not seeing the benfit we would expect from it. We have a government that is not representing all of us.
I have always taken a keen interest in current affairs, in the UK and abroad so it's not a rash decision (and i don't want to trigger a debate about my reasons for leaving). I have learned when it is time to walk away.
Even before all this, we had decided to leave the UK, but we are speeding up plans. Is anyone else doing the same?
The grass will not be greener on the other side (have lived in 3 other countries when i was younger). We will be working on line for our last couple of years before retirement.
'We' means DH, DD (18 )and DS (21). DH totally onboard. DD and DS not, so we can't just leave them.

OP posts:
outdooryone · 17/10/2025 18:19

cupfinalchaos · 17/10/2025 17:57

My dh has to give the government £1m next week in tax. We’re waiting for the budget in a few weeks and if inheritance is up we’re off. After working his arse off he wants his kids to benefit. He’s done his bit. Enough’s enough.

Or another way of looking at it, as tax is a smaller percentage than you take home, you've done really well out of the UK and now you want to leave to dodge tax on a fortune you've earned or acquired.

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 18:16

UsernameMcUsername · 17/10/2025 17:02

I'm curious about that too (Irish, long resident in the UK). I actually think Ireland has very similar underlying issues to the UK, in terms of an ageing population, housing, health care, immigration and the resulting tensions etc. Irish politics is I think also beginning to shift rightwards (we tend to be a decade behind Europe in those kinds of shifts). Though we obviously had the sense not to leave the EU I guess!

Yes, I've noted a shift towards the right, and there have been attacks on migrants and ethnic minorites. There is also a housing problem. All these issues are increasingly common throughout Europe.

FKAT · 17/10/2025 18:13

No, it's mostly nice here. It has its problems but so does every where. Please let me know what country in the world is immune from inflation, war, rising cost of living, racism, decline in public services, climate change and poverty?

The very few affluent egalitatarian countries with very high standards of living versus the UK have their own challenges. Do you want to pay the tax rates in Norway? Live next door to Russia in Finland? Find out exactly how multicultural and inclusive Denmark is? If you already have the wealth and qualifications required by Switzerland then your life is pretty good now.

I'd rather stay and spend my energy solving problems than flounce. Also the key to a happy life is having a close community around you. It's very hard to build one from scratch in a foreign country even if you do have a job on the ground there. Many immigrants I know - even the ones who are happy with their choice - experience loneliness and miss their circle, their family their language and not having to constantly culturally adapt to the new country.

BruFord · 17/10/2025 18:11

teacupzs · 17/10/2025 18:00

I understand leaving for better salaries or because housing is too expensive but where is this utopia with low taxes & excellent public services?

Yes, @teacupzs. I’d love to live in that country too, if someone can tell me where it is?!

teacupzs · 17/10/2025 18:07

All countries in Europe are having significant problems.

Ageing populations are a big issue everywhere in Europe that means higher taxes for the foreseeable

CrimsonStoat · 17/10/2025 18:05

I'm not planning as such, but have started to look at properties in a few European countries just to get an idea of what's available.

teacupzs · 17/10/2025 18:03

I may one day & my dc might. We have other citizenship.

teacupzs · 17/10/2025 18:00

I understand leaving for better salaries or because housing is too expensive but where is this utopia with low taxes & excellent public services?

cupfinalchaos · 17/10/2025 17:57

My dh has to give the government £1m next week in tax. We’re waiting for the budget in a few weeks and if inheritance is up we’re off. After working his arse off he wants his kids to benefit. He’s done his bit. Enough’s enough.

outdooryone · 17/10/2025 17:40

Also think Ireland or Scotland would be good. At least then DS and DD would be in the same country.

I think you need to better understand UK and European geography before you make too many plans...

UsernameMcUsername · 17/10/2025 17:02

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 15:59

Out of interest, why do you think Ireland would be good? What in particular?

I'm curious about that too (Irish, long resident in the UK). I actually think Ireland has very similar underlying issues to the UK, in terms of an ageing population, housing, health care, immigration and the resulting tensions etc. Irish politics is I think also beginning to shift rightwards (we tend to be a decade behind Europe in those kinds of shifts). Though we obviously had the sense not to leave the EU I guess!

mbosnz · 17/10/2025 16:55

My daughter is currently living, studying and working in Japan, and while she's loving it, nationalist feeling is pretty strong there at the moment.

Samanabanana · 17/10/2025 16:36

No. We are higher rate tax payers and the tax isn't what's killing us, it's just the general cost of living. Happy to pay higher tax. I'd rather pay more and see better services to be honest. But groceries/eating out/holidays/luxuries are SO expensive compared to a decade ago and that is what's making life seem so difficult and unreasonable, and that won't be fixed by moving to a different country!

BruFord · 17/10/2025 16:23

I’d wait a few years until both your children are in their 20’s, working, etc. Tbh, I wouldn’t base your plans entirely around them as it sounds as if your DS is also interested in living abroad -he may end up moving around a lot for a few years.

Work out where you want to be and then see when it’s feasible to move. Personally, I’d like to be on the same continent as my children but they may not settle anywhere for a while. Take your time and see where they end up.

Realrobin · 17/10/2025 16:16

You sound confused and flighty OP. You say the grass isn't greener and yet you think there's a better life to be had elsewhere. That's the same thing as 'grass is greener'.

You say you're speeding up plans to leave but your kids don't want to go and you don't want to leave them. You also don't know where you're going and throwing around lots of random ideas. Have you looked into the practicalities of any of it or is this a giant daydream?

You're planning to leave the UK but talking about living in Scotland. Then say that you might have to only spend part of the time abroad.

Maybe you just need a holiday ??

Upstartled · 17/10/2025 16:09

Not sure I'd risk that as a foreigner, however good the cheese.

😂 Can I have some Bleu d'Auvergne with my deportation notice please?

turkeyboots · 17/10/2025 16:08

Its hard to get visas for over 18s, as they are adults. Student visa or a standalone earning one is probably all they can get.
Think hard on where you can actually go.

SkipAd · 17/10/2025 16:07

AuntieMeemz · 17/10/2025 12:23

Some very interesting thoughts here. I have stayed a few months in USA, and preferred home. I also stayed 3 months in Australia, and preferred home. We don't earn enough to qualify for a lot of residence visas for most other countries.I did like living in France though. I also really loved living in Japan! Never been abroad and lived in comfort, so it's always been on a shoe string. We are def not rich, but have always saved and spent all our money on travel. No iphones, tablets, no nice car, no airfryer etc etc in our house!
I absolutely agree that most UK problems are the same in every country, and i know for sure that the grass is not greener. However, that does not mean there isn't a better life elsewhere. Some countries have lower tax and sometimes better services too.
We will probably have to go for a 'snowflake' existence, and only spend part of the time abroad. Having looked at how tied in we are in the UK, it's complicated (renting out property, mortgage, taxes etc etc). I think DD and DS will be more open to leaving after they've tried to get a job! DS very much wants to go back to Japan and work in Japan (he's now been once with family and once on his own).

So you’re not leaving now then?

competentadult · 17/10/2025 16:07

France is in a right mess. Their goverment is on the brink of collapsing again, which could easily force early elections and a far-right majority, as they are way ahead in the polls.
Not sure I'd risk that as a foreigner, however good the cheese.

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 16:06

Annie202 · 17/10/2025 16:03

Sadly, think Reform are just as likely to do well here in Scotland as they are in the rest of the UK.

Yes, I think you're right. Much like the rest of the UK, there are regional variations.

Upstartled · 17/10/2025 16:03

Voting intention for reform in Scotland is at 18%. That is less than 30% in national polls but it's not miles apart.

Annie202 · 17/10/2025 16:03

Greenwitchart · 17/10/2025 10:27

Not now as I think most countries have different issues.

I have lived in France, the USA and the UK and nowhere is perfect.

However if Reform wins I might consideri leaving England for Scotland or Ireland. It would be a sad state of affairs though because I really love the small seaside town I live in.

Sadly, think Reform are just as likely to do well here in Scotland as they are in the rest of the UK.

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 16:00

Batteredoldchesterfield · 17/10/2025 15:57

Errrrr you know Scotland is in the UK right??

Quite a few seem to think it's a different land......

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 15:59

AuntieMeemz · 17/10/2025 15:53

Pretty much same as us. Portugal is the front runner at the moment. (Have lived in Malaysia and considered that, but it's too far and too hot). Also think Ireland or Scotland would be good. At least then DS and DD would be in the same country.
Would love to live in France again though. But we have family out there, and in our case, that is not a good thing.

Out of interest, why do you think Ireland would be good? What in particular?

Batteredoldchesterfield · 17/10/2025 15:57

Errrrr you know Scotland is in the UK right??