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Is anyone else planning to leave the UK?

230 replies

AuntieMeemz · 17/10/2025 09:59

Everything we gain, earn or get is taxed and we are not seeing the benfit we would expect from it. We have a government that is not representing all of us.
I have always taken a keen interest in current affairs, in the UK and abroad so it's not a rash decision (and i don't want to trigger a debate about my reasons for leaving). I have learned when it is time to walk away.
Even before all this, we had decided to leave the UK, but we are speeding up plans. Is anyone else doing the same?
The grass will not be greener on the other side (have lived in 3 other countries when i was younger). We will be working on line for our last couple of years before retirement.
'We' means DH, DD (18 )and DS (21). DH totally onboard. DD and DS not, so we can't just leave them.

OP posts:
KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 22:27

SeriaMau · 17/10/2025 22:26

Healthcare has vastly improved over the past 20 years. We lead longer and healthier lives.
The rate of crime has dropped substantially over the past 30 years. We are now a much safer society.
I own my own home now, which I didn’t previously but I accept that’s a personal perspective.
I’m not impacted my immigration, for good or bad, but I appreciate for others this may be a problem.

This, exactly

SeriaMau · 17/10/2025 22:26

RosenWilloughby · 17/10/2025 21:17

Interesting. How do you feel it’s improved?

Healthcare?
Crime?
Housing?
Immigration?

Healthcare has vastly improved over the past 20 years. We lead longer and healthier lives.
The rate of crime has dropped substantially over the past 30 years. We are now a much safer society.
I own my own home now, which I didn’t previously but I accept that’s a personal perspective.
I’m not impacted my immigration, for good or bad, but I appreciate for others this may be a problem.

Baninarama · 17/10/2025 22:04

Peridoteage · 17/10/2025 21:55

Nope. Ive got family and friends in US, Australia, canada, france, italy, Germany & china. It's not much better elsewhere.

France is even more fucked financially than we are. Higher taxes.
Australia is really expensive to live, facing some major environmental challenges.
US has huge wealth divide, lots of issues with racism& sexism, guns & donald trump. They get barely any holiday.
China has a lot of weird shit that never makes the news here
Italy wages are actually quite a bit lower than uk & they are also kinda bankrupt
Germany like the uk has had a huge influx of migrants and has social undercurrents that are pretty nasty. Tax is higher than here.

On a global level, capitalism has concentrated wealth in the hands of a shrinking few. You can't escape that by moving abroad.

You will get more equality somewhere like norway - oh and higher taxes.

Norway is pretty but boring - you still can't buy a bottle of wine on a Sunday or Bank Holiday as the state-run wine shops all close and they're the only place allowed to sell alcohol.

mindutopia · 17/10/2025 22:02

No, you should see how shit my home country is. I have a much better quality of life here. Food shopping is cheaper. Health care is better and more accessible. Schools are better. I can’t think of anywhere I’d prefer to live. We are high earners and pay tax, but relative to what we earn, we have a comfortable life. People in every country think their country is crap because they too sometimes watch too much YouTube.

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 21:57

echt · 17/10/2025 21:49

And what's "leftist" about what @KatyaKanani said?
They were facts.

I know! I would have thought a post complaining about constant strikes, power cuts, the three day week, and poor public sector service would definitely not make you a "Lefty"! 😂

Peridoteage · 17/10/2025 21:55

Nope. Ive got family and friends in US, Australia, canada, france, italy, Germany & china. It's not much better elsewhere.

France is even more fucked financially than we are. Higher taxes.
Australia is really expensive to live, facing some major environmental challenges.
US has huge wealth divide, lots of issues with racism& sexism, guns & donald trump. They get barely any holiday.
China has a lot of weird shit that never makes the news here
Italy wages are actually quite a bit lower than uk & they are also kinda bankrupt
Germany like the uk has had a huge influx of migrants and has social undercurrents that are pretty nasty. Tax is higher than here.

On a global level, capitalism has concentrated wealth in the hands of a shrinking few. You can't escape that by moving abroad.

You will get more equality somewhere like norway - oh and higher taxes.

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 21:55

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 17/10/2025 21:49

This might be one of the most unhinged replies I've read on Mumsnet in a while, and that's saying something.

I know! 😂 😂

teacupzs · 17/10/2025 21:54

@Papyrophile how does that work with the changing demographics though?

Tanefan · 17/10/2025 21:53

No, I like the banter and I don’t like to be too far from an M&S Food.

carly2803 · 17/10/2025 21:53

I would like to. honestly. I would live in the USA if I was not afraid of my kids being shot when they go to school.

The opportunities are far greater than the UK, however I would consider canada seriously in the not too distant future

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 17/10/2025 21:49

RosenWilloughby · 17/10/2025 21:45

Typical leftist. Enjoy your country as it crumbles while you’re too busy enjoying it being less racist. Oh and good luck getting adequate healthcare and your children being able to afford their own home independently.

This might be one of the most unhinged replies I've read on Mumsnet in a while, and that's saying something.

echt · 17/10/2025 21:49

RosenWilloughby · 17/10/2025 21:45

Typical leftist. Enjoy your country as it crumbles while you’re too busy enjoying it being less racist. Oh and good luck getting adequate healthcare and your children being able to afford their own home independently.

And what's "leftist" about what @KatyaKanani said?
They were facts.

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 21:47

RosenWilloughby · 17/10/2025 21:45

Typical leftist. Enjoy your country as it crumbles while you’re too busy enjoying it being less racist. Oh and good luck getting adequate healthcare and your children being able to afford their own home independently.

😂😂😂

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 17/10/2025 21:46

We can’t move as kids are in secondary and I think realistically we are too old to start again. What we are doing though is just massively decreasing our spending and hoping that Labour is out in the next election.

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 21:46

SomeConstellation · 17/10/2025 21:42

Yes. It’s a better world than the one I grew up in.

Constant strikes and shortages, three day week, power cuts, walking to school in the snow having only had a cold drink and going to sit in a dark classroom with our coats on. Corporal punishment actively encouraged.
Irish jokes.

RosenWilloughby · 17/10/2025 21:45

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 21:29

Less pollution, less secondary smoke inhalation, less overt sexism and cat calling, less overt homophobia and racism, more opportunities for women, more than 2 channels on tv and no 4 month wait for the post office to install your telephone, no having to get a man to guarantee your rent or mortgage...I could go on.

Typical leftist. Enjoy your country as it crumbles while you’re too busy enjoying it being less racist. Oh and good luck getting adequate healthcare and your children being able to afford their own home independently.

Tagliateriroa · 17/10/2025 21:45

PurpleChrayn · 17/10/2025 10:31

Yes.

We’re moving to Israel where DH is from. Life has become pretty intolerable for Jews in the UK. Several incidents recently, involving our young children. Were sick of feeling unwelcome.

I think DS will almost certainly go in the next couple of years. He wants to get a couple more years work experience under his belt. He thinks it will be a time of massive positive change and he wants to be part of that. A few of his friends have already gone

Crochetandtea · 17/10/2025 21:44

We won’t be going anywhere although husband has joked in the past about a French farm and chateau when the weather gets especially cold and snowy here. The french also treat their farmers very well.
I like where I live but would love a little place in a warmer country when I’m retired. I’d spend our winters there and summers back here.

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 21:42

SomeConstellation · 17/10/2025 21:42

Yes. It’s a better world than the one I grew up in.

Me too. Far better.

SomeConstellation · 17/10/2025 21:42

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 21:29

Less pollution, less secondary smoke inhalation, less overt sexism and cat calling, less overt homophobia and racism, more opportunities for women, more than 2 channels on tv and no 4 month wait for the post office to install your telephone, no having to get a man to guarantee your rent or mortgage...I could go on.

Yes. It’s a better world than the one I grew up in.

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 21:41

It's ironic, though, isn't it? Every day thousands are risking their lives to come to the UK and countless others would like to try.

GingerPaste · 17/10/2025 21:39

I don’t like living here anymore. The country has been going steadily downhill for decades and is now mostly a complete mess. The shitty weather is the just the ‘icing’ on the proverbial cake (although it’s hardly a nice cake).

I could possibly have the opportunity to move somewhere lovely when I’ve retired. It’s not something I’ve ever considered - until now.

cupfinalchaos · 17/10/2025 21:35

outdooryone · 17/10/2025 18:19

Or another way of looking at it, as tax is a smaller percentage than you take home, you've done really well out of the UK and now you want to leave to dodge tax on a fortune you've earned or acquired.

Dodge tax? Nope- we’ve done our bit to prop up the welfare culture. Time to think about our kids now. Always easier to be generous with someone else’s money.

Papyrophile · 17/10/2025 21:32

@teacupzs , what I think might be interpreted as "bracing". Stand up, work for everything you expect to have for yourself, try to help out if you can but it's probably quite a self directed/self sufficient version of life.

KatyaKanani · 17/10/2025 21:29

RosenWilloughby · 17/10/2025 21:17

Interesting. How do you feel it’s improved?

Healthcare?
Crime?
Housing?
Immigration?

Less pollution, less secondary smoke inhalation, less overt sexism and cat calling, less overt homophobia and racism, more opportunities for women, more than 2 channels on tv and no 4 month wait for the post office to install your telephone, no having to get a man to guarantee your rent or mortgage...I could go on.

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