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Is anyone else planning to leave the UK?

230 replies

AuntieMeemz · 17/10/2025 09:59

Everything we gain, earn or get is taxed and we are not seeing the benfit we would expect from it. We have a government that is not representing all of us.
I have always taken a keen interest in current affairs, in the UK and abroad so it's not a rash decision (and i don't want to trigger a debate about my reasons for leaving). I have learned when it is time to walk away.
Even before all this, we had decided to leave the UK, but we are speeding up plans. Is anyone else doing the same?
The grass will not be greener on the other side (have lived in 3 other countries when i was younger). We will be working on line for our last couple of years before retirement.
'We' means DH, DD (18 )and DS (21). DH totally onboard. DD and DS not, so we can't just leave them.

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Papyrophile · 19/10/2025 18:16

Outside of the main cities, and the Midi, most of France is a fab place to live, but you do need to speak a bit of French. Good luck wandering into a bar in anything other than a tourist destination in France.

Papyrophile · 19/10/2025 18:09

Plenty people could work overseas if they were prepared to take the risk.

KatyaKanani · 19/10/2025 17:57

RiderGirl · 19/10/2025 17:36

We are. DH received his German passport in the post yesterday so has now got dual citizenship, we are planning to go to France once DD has left home/gone to uni. We're open to other countries but France stands out currently.

In spite of all the current significant economic and political problems? You must have very good jobs.

RiderGirl · 19/10/2025 17:36

We are. DH received his German passport in the post yesterday so has now got dual citizenship, we are planning to go to France once DD has left home/gone to uni. We're open to other countries but France stands out currently.

Papyrophile · 19/10/2025 17:29

I don't think we've hoarded wealth. Without an employer, we have had to fund the company's costs and the payroll, and it's only after those costs are met that we have anything to take out. Some years it goes well, and in other years (like 2025) we shall pay our staff and take nothing. This year, DH is working for not much, and at 70 can you blame him for wanting a way out? But he doesn't want to walk away until he's certain that none of the staff are left unemployed.

Papyrophile · 19/10/2025 17:18

Taxation is now at a level that deters entrepreneurs from starting businesses @Figgygal . Do you have a company or are you an employee?

If you start a company, whatever you do to earn money, you have to expect that you won't take a penny out of it for two years plus. That is virtually impossible for anyone who has small children.

If you are self-employed, you work through illness and bereavement and every other horrid event. Because there is no one paying for your sick day or holiday except you.

38thparallel · 19/10/2025 17:16

I dont feel taxation is unreasonable either wealth hoarding however is and that's fuelling inequality

@Figgygal how much wealth can someone hoard before it is unreasonable?

acorncrush · 19/10/2025 17:15

Passwordsaremynemesis · 18/10/2025 09:26

I left the UK for Ireland in 2003 ( I am from NI but we moved to Cork) . I loved living in London, but I’d just had a baby and wanted to live in a nice house, which we couldn’t afford in London. Cork was a great place to live until the economy crashed, so we moved again to Australia. My only regret is not moving sooner, we love it here and have a great quality of life. I don’t miss the weather! We were back in the UK and Ireland for a month in August, and while it was lovely to visit our lives are better here. All the cities we visited were buzzing but expensive, and the small towns were dead, nothing but charity and vape shops! And the roads and litter were shocking!The only things I miss apart from family and friends of course are newspapers and Marks and Spencer’s food hall. But I wouldn’t swap for what we have here.

What part of Australia did you move to? Would you recommend for young families?

Figgygal · 19/10/2025 14:50

Your children are adults I'm not surprised they don't want to follow you it's their lives so you likely need to decide to do it without them.
I actually don't think the country is in terminal decline despite social media and right wing owned media telling me it is.

I dont feel taxation is unreasonable either wealth hoarding however is and that's fuelling inequality.

Hesma · 19/10/2025 14:45

Where are you planning on going?

AbbyEidyn · 19/10/2025 13:36

cupfinalchaos · 18/10/2025 17:57

I actually am unsure of the percentage of annual earnings as this was for a few isolated transactions. Dh definitely pays all the tax he owes, even with a good accountant it’s still taxed!

I am not insuniating that he doesn't pay the tax he owes.

We should focus on % tax paid vs. absolute number (£1m). Your family is in the top 0.1% where the income is so high to have to pay a large amount. You can afford an accountant to help minimize what's owed.

FKAT · 19/10/2025 11:14

TheBewleySisters · 18/10/2025 11:37

I was watching an episode of A Place In The Sun and the buyer said she was looking for a property which would initially be a holiday home but would become her permanent home (in Spain). I was curious as to how she could just move permanently to Spain post-Brexit.

You can still retire to Spain if you're British. There's more paperwork but the route is open. I believe Spanish gov post-Brexit had to make a choice about British retirees and decided to allow them to stay resident there and keep an easy route for those planning to retire to the costas.

Beesandhoney123 · 19/10/2025 08:15

An exit tax? What? Like a divorce, you mean? How ridiculous.

I would suggest if you have an accountant to manage your taxes and its always been the same person for years, there is no harm in asking another tax planner / accountant to review your plans.

Maybe as welll even one in the place you want to move to. See if you get taxed more.

No one should mind. You aren't checking their work, you are merely getting a second opinion on your personal plans.

Aintgointogoa · 19/10/2025 02:30

I had to do frying pan or fire when I reached pension age/had suddenly been made redundant. I always loved my life in London, my family close by etc. True Brit. But it was untenable to keep my little flat on without an income. I would have wrestled anyone to the ground it they had said UK was a pile of doo doo,
HEY well guess what......
A good friend had recently relocated to Latin America and posed the challenge - just get the hell outta dodge (she was in US, just after first Trump election)
After a holiday visit, I did. But it is not for the faint hearted. I felt shattered after the Brexit vote, but even if I could have lived in France I would have still been in a financial bind. I love where I live now. But moving with kids and trying to get work visas - wouldn't be easy. The powers that be realise now that giving visas like lollipops is not their policy any more since it has become a desirable country, even with all it's inherent problems - as I am retired it's easier in that respect. However I am so so so glad I made that leap. I am never ever going to endure the dark and damp from November to March ever again ! And the COL cheap as chips in comparison, No heating bills ha ha...
Tho' I do think that if you and your family are safe and sheltered - that's a big plus right now. Mine are fine and firmly behind my decision.
I wish you well with your choices. It's definitely a rock and a hard place if you have family near and dear/have care needs. 💐

Dweetfidilove · 19/10/2025 01:00

Yes. I'll be returning home at retirement age, which all things being equal, should be in about 15 years. I'll have to experience the Reform government, unfortunately.

PinkyFlamingo · 19/10/2025 00:48

Well I will when Scotland become independent. Ok it didnt happen in 2014 and may still take some time but I would like to think it would be a Yes vote if the alternative is a Reform government!

Pearlyb · 19/10/2025 00:41

I'm married to a EU citizen thankfully, so can leave quite easily. Planning to do so in maybe 5 years, will keep our house in the UK though, just in case things don't pan out.

I know many others who'd like to leave, but there's no decent countries they can go to because of Brexit. Feel quite bad for them!

HRTQueen · 18/10/2025 22:34

I will be very disappointed and saddened in Reform win the next election

but I am hoping the senior members of the party will implode by then but worried Dominic Cummings may get involved with them

France is likely to have a very right wing leadership by then and Germany heavy influenced and it’s concerning what happening in Denmark of all countries

but Germany and Denmark woudl certainly provide a better standard of living

I could go to the states but have lived there and it’s just not where I have ever wanted to live

Titsywoo · 18/10/2025 22:26

I'm not planning to leave although we are planning to move away from London once our youngest leaves home. So many people we know who moved to the UK from other European countries are leaving now. They say it isn't worth it anymore. That's so sad to me but understandable.

GelatoForMe · 18/10/2025 21:43

teacupzs · 17/10/2025 20:46

The UK is small and very well located in temperature.

Our climate is a major plus

Actually many English people I know like it here exactly because it is not overly hot in summer and one can still have as many sea swims as one wants in the summer

GelatoForMe · 18/10/2025 21:40

BlossomingSlowly · 17/10/2025 18:31

This. We have savings started and intend to move if reform gets in. Would otherwise never consider moving but knowing we have the option to leave if those clowns are in charge gives me some comfort

why? Are you EU nationals. If you could leave just like, why not stay and leave only if shove comes to push

GelatoForMe · 18/10/2025 21:31

SkipAd · 17/10/2025 16:07

So you’re not leaving now then?

She is not. She aint got any money to leave

38thparallel · 18/10/2025 21:12

I don’t like the present government and the thought of a further four years depresses me.
However I don’t think I’ve got the energy to leave. Having to start again with finding among other things, somewhere to live, new rules and regulations, a doctor and dentist, a dog sitter, a plumber, an electrician, logs, new bank account etc.
I might have thought differently if I was younger.

Avocadocat · 18/10/2025 21:06

I travel a lot and follow local Facebook pages of the places I’m staying. They all have people complaining about exactly the same things, all around the world (obviously I haven’t been to every country but many). All have people saying they’re going to leave, government is corrupt, job market crap, food too expensive, immigrants etc etc. So do let us know if you’ve found a utopia!

GelatoForMe · 18/10/2025 21:04

I watch some people's youtube videos who have done this. Everyone has a choice. There is nothing wrong with the UK but if you want to migrate, why not?!