To find salary offered an insult?

I've never been given a pay rise for managing people. I get pay rises for doing a good job. The two don't necessarily go hand in hand

I run a team of 60 with 40 of those being my direct reports. Those numbers have increased from 30 and 10 4 years ago and I've only ever had the standard % increase despite a hugely increased workload. In fact, one year, there was no pay increase for my team, so I refused to accept the one offered to me

I'd say dont take it. Mainly for the sake of those who would be reporting in to you. You can only manage people well if you actually want to.

oops , I think I might be ND!

Which is insane as it's not that hard and the actual skills you need have reduced drastically with AI. I say that as one of these people 😅

Really how about 80% of the comments sound here!

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Well for example a graduate role in an investment bank is around £55k these days I think. 21 year old straight out of university.
Generalising I know but in finance, law or technology, in all of those careers you’ll be earning £100k with about 4 years experience excluding bonuses.

I don't think it's an insult. You obviously aren't happy with it so decline the offer but don't think there's any need to take offence, it's a very high salary.

Tell me you've never worked for a charity or in the public sector without telling me you've never worked for a charity or in the public sector.

Haven’t read TWT but can you request bigger pre-tax pension contributions as an alternative?

(I know zippo if that’s even allowed !)

I am sure that was sarcasm….

What about footballers paid millions - are they monsters?

According to who? Who are you to say how much a person needs?

I have not commented on what is “fine” for you you to have or not have. Respond to words written. Not strawmen you have invented.

If you want more “luxuries” work for it.

@Sickleg how do you suggest things are made equal?

A positive start would be acknowledge equality. You know, perhaps get rid of the mindset of "I need X but I also think it's fine that other people don't have X."

how do you suggest things are made equal?

Yeah but I manage 3500 people and the only pay I get is a punch in the face, and spat on at Christmas if I'm lucky. And I'm grateful. I'd happily take on 2000 more direct reports for 5p and a Twix. The OP is a monster.

😂😂😂 are you for real or just on a wind up?

Peoolle management isn’t for many people I think , even the ones who want to do it - expecially those ones actually. that’s why there are so many bad people managers losing good team members and ruining companies everywhere!
OP may make decent job of it though.

@JHound I was talking to the person who says nobody “needs” more than 100k.

This is an open discussion board. The person you responded to is correct in saying that no one needs that kind of money.

Who are they, or you to say what people “need” to have an enjoyable life. Sorry I am not content to merely go to work, go home and watch TV each day. What you require to lead an enjoyable life is not what I require. Nobody can say how much another person “needs”.

I'm pretty sure that I would enjoy all of the luxury items that you have.

You saying that you "need" those luxuries, and it's fine for me not to have them because you think I should just be going to work, going home, and watching TV each day, implies that I am less of a person and that you have special needs that exceed mine. Do you not believe in equality?

What do you do to have with such hugs salaries but no line management?? I mean, what’s your job/industry?

Why are people comparing apples and oranges?!

Real lack of understanding of supply and demand basics on this thread.

I wouldn’t OP. It’s a 25% gross uptick but only a 13% net uptick unless you whack up your pension contributions by the full 25% to keep your full tax free allowance intact, you fall into the 62% tax trap as others have said. And if you put the full 25% in then you get zero net benefit.

Assuming you don’t want to do that, a 13% pay rise for 3 reports and all the extra responsibility that that entails? As I said, I wouldn’t.

Absolutely.

It's rare that I read all of an op's posts and find nothing redeeming - but yes, op comes across as a total knob.

I was talking to the person who says nobody “needs” more than 100k.

Who are they, or you to say what people “need” to have an enjoyable life. Sorry I am not content to merely go to work, go home and watch TV each day.

What you require to lead an enjoyable life is not what I require. Nobody can say how much another person “needs”.

I don’t understand the comments saying “I manage people on less than that”.

So? More fool you.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people say "but I need a massive salary to have a normal life," and then they rhyme off a list of luxuries that are out of reach of normal people.

Why is that the wealthy believe that they are entitled to things that most people don't have?