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To find salary offered an insult?

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Willowtree5 · 16/10/2025 14:20

As part of a restructure, I have been asked if I would take on three direct reports (I currently don’t manage anyone, but have in the past - big pull of current role was no line management responsibility).

I said I’d consider it - whilst I know I can manage people, it does add to my workload and the ‘mental load’ of dealing with all the crap around sickness/absence, 1:1’s etc.

My manager said she’d establish what additional uplift to my salary would be possible and let me know.

They’ve come back with an offer of £125,000 (current salary pre bonuses £105,000) which I find frankly insulting given the workload this would add.

AIBU to tell them to stuff it?

OP posts:
Stormyday34 · 16/10/2025 23:09

I think it’s a good offer based on only managing 3 people. Plus you’re getting management experience on your cv.

Make sure you put all of the £25k in a pension though otherwise your take home will decrease rather than increase.

Orders76 · 16/10/2025 23:07

The tax isn't actually the companies problem, and 20% is a good uplift on base salary, pension and bonus.
See what you can do with pension contributions to minimize your tax issue.

BlakeCarrington · 16/10/2025 23:05

I wouldn’t do it for that pay rise OP, not unless you had a burning ambition to progress into line management. As pps have said, the changes in tax bracket means the raise will make little difference in you paypacket plus there would be extra stress. I wouldn’t.

Beesandhoney123 · 16/10/2025 23:02

It's a shit offer because you lose your personal allowance so get taxed more and at a higher rate.

If you are managing staff you'll have to delegate more. So promote someone to line manage, and formally manage your successor.

Tiswa · 16/10/2025 23:02

But only the OP knows her worth and the benchmark for the job she is being asked to do

the figures are meaningless without context so are not needed and her response about London unnecessary (especially as it is only really the City/Financial sector that is commensurate)

If a manager on the same level (particularly a man) is on 150k of course you try and negotiate and try and get an increase

onlymethen · 16/10/2025 22:54

ReadingSoManyThreads · 16/10/2025 22:37

It really is a race to the bottom, isn't it?!

Some of the comments are horrible on this thread - the envy is palpable.

@Willowtree5 I'm glad you know your worth, and I'm glad you won't settle for less than your worth, unlike the dozens on here.

I'd just advise that before you counter offer the £150K that you've run the numbers through a really good salary calculator, so you know exactly where you are tax wise.

As for the people thinking the £20K rise is amazing, they don't seem to realise the tax payable on that.

Good luck Willow.

I’m from a solid working class background ground but because I knew my worth always negotiated well for pay increases.
worked in the North West paid 55k part time.
i worked alongside colleagues on a lot less than me because they didn’t start on a good basic.
You are absolutely due an increase for the expected added responsibility.
My mantra was always, they are paying me to make all their shareholders richer, if I didn’t perform they wouldn’t want me.

TJk86 · 16/10/2025 22:52

HoskinsChoice · 16/10/2025 22:48

Exactly. It annoys me that Mumsnet allows this. It's so offensive to people who are struggling whilst this prick gets her kicks from pretending she earns so much money. It's a sad little life that the OP lives. Trolls are annoying when they're making daft stories up but when they're making this kind of bullshit up, it's pretty low.

Some people earn millions, others are on minimum wage, such is life. If you’re not happy, change your circumstances. £125k is a very average salary and actually she’s probably worse off than some on a much lower pay because she loses things like funded childcare etc. The Squeezed middle class gets a very bad deal in this country at the moment.

logplant · 16/10/2025 22:51

It’s not like they wasted lots of your time putting you through countless tests and interviews only to offered you a few extra pennies. It was a fairly decent offer - getting offended makes me doubt your emotional stability.

TJk86 · 16/10/2025 22:50

This thread illustrates why there is such a pay gap between men and women. People on here usually blame it on having children but actually it seems like women’s attitude and lack of self worth is to blame. It appears that most of you are happy to work for a pittance and think OP is taking a piss for wanting to negotiate. A man would never NOT negotiate. And btw £125k is an extremely average salary in finance/law, especially in London.

HoskinsChoice · 16/10/2025 22:48

ifeelsostrongly · 16/10/2025 22:12

Must surely be a wind up.

Edited

Exactly. It annoys me that Mumsnet allows this. It's so offensive to people who are struggling whilst this prick gets her kicks from pretending she earns so much money. It's a sad little life that the OP lives. Trolls are annoying when they're making daft stories up but when they're making this kind of bullshit up, it's pretty low.

SingtotheCat · 16/10/2025 22:48

AIBU £20k pay rise?
13 OP posts exclaiming you are not.
This wasn’t really a question. I don’t see the point.

Kaybee50 · 16/10/2025 22:39

Crikey. I didn’t take it as an insult that I was offered a 10% uplift to manage 6 people (and my salary is just under £40k) I just decided it wasn’t worth the hassle and politely declined.

Willowtree5 · 16/10/2025 22:38

ReadingSoManyThreads · 16/10/2025 22:37

It really is a race to the bottom, isn't it?!

Some of the comments are horrible on this thread - the envy is palpable.

@Willowtree5 I'm glad you know your worth, and I'm glad you won't settle for less than your worth, unlike the dozens on here.

I'd just advise that before you counter offer the £150K that you've run the numbers through a really good salary calculator, so you know exactly where you are tax wise.

As for the people thinking the £20K rise is amazing, they don't seem to realise the tax payable on that.

Good luck Willow.

Thank you very much - agreed, sadly - do better, DMumsnetters!

OP posts:
ReadingSoManyThreads · 16/10/2025 22:37

It really is a race to the bottom, isn't it?!

Some of the comments are horrible on this thread - the envy is palpable.

@Willowtree5 I'm glad you know your worth, and I'm glad you won't settle for less than your worth, unlike the dozens on here.

I'd just advise that before you counter offer the £150K that you've run the numbers through a really good salary calculator, so you know exactly where you are tax wise.

As for the people thinking the £20K rise is amazing, they don't seem to realise the tax payable on that.

Good luck Willow.

Hurdygurdy123 · 16/10/2025 22:36

NebulousWhistler · 16/10/2025 21:48

Well for example a graduate role in an investment bank is around £55k these days I think. 21 year old straight out of university.
Generalising I know but in finance, law or technology, in all of those careers you’ll be earning £100k with about 4 years experience excluding bonuses.

Not in accountancy or IT you won't unless you do exceptionally well as a salesperson or on some very rare fast track thing or a lucky start up pioneer. Nearer the 40k mark after 4 years.

ForNoisyCat · 16/10/2025 22:32

Willowtree5 · 16/10/2025 14:20

As part of a restructure, I have been asked if I would take on three direct reports (I currently don’t manage anyone, but have in the past - big pull of current role was no line management responsibility).

I said I’d consider it - whilst I know I can manage people, it does add to my workload and the ‘mental load’ of dealing with all the crap around sickness/absence, 1:1’s etc.

My manager said she’d establish what additional uplift to my salary would be possible and let me know.

They’ve come back with an offer of £125,000 (current salary pre bonuses £105,000) which I find frankly insulting given the workload this would add.

AIBU to tell them to stuff it?

depends on what the market rate is for similar job and responsibilities? Ultimately, if you really do not want to people- manage then no salary amount will be worth it.

SeagullSam2027 · 16/10/2025 22:25

sosorryimnotsorry · 16/10/2025 14:40

Nobody needs over £100k sorry YABU. I would expect anyone over £100k to be having huge responsibilities including managing people. You are just being greedy

Why? There are lots of people earning well over 100k doing stress free jobs with very little responsibility.

Orders76 · 16/10/2025 22:23

That's an excellent raise, and now your bonus will be on the increased amount, also company pension amount.

If you want to negotiate a little higher, maybe another 10 but wouldn't push it too far.
Can you mitigate the tax with pension contributions?

SkaterGrrrrl · 16/10/2025 22:22

Jeeeeez I earn £38k and line manage 8 people and deliver my own service. In London! Not private sector though.

mjf981 · 16/10/2025 22:22

Yeah I bet this is a wind up.

And if not, then given you are in the finance industry - enjoy the dying days of your career. Snap their hand off now. Because with AI all these high paid finance/law/city jobs will be gone within the next 5-10 years. You may look down on those who work in the NHS, but at least they do something of value, and will have a job in the future.

Duechristmas · 16/10/2025 22:21

I earn under 50k and line manage 18. Clearly in the wrong industry.

ifeelsostrongly · 16/10/2025 22:12

Must surely be a wind up.

Figgygal · 16/10/2025 22:04

Willowtree5 · 16/10/2025 21:07

Thanks for those who’ve made serious suggestions. I’ve decided I’ll counter at £150,000 and see what the response is. If they are that offended I guess I’ll be off to DJob centre instead!

Edited

You're taking the absolute piss op
50 grand to manage a handful of people most people take on management responsibility with little to no uplift

Wheresthebeach · 16/10/2025 21:59

I think your attitude is awful. Don’t take the job. To view that percentage increase as an insult is just wrong. Don’t inflict your attitude on others.

HashtagSadTimes · 16/10/2025 21:56

Willowtree5 · 16/10/2025 15:19

More fool you for not asserting yourself and negotiating for a fair deal.

But that sort of applies to you too. Why get offended when you’re negotiating?
What salary were you expecting?

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