To find salary offered an insult?

Restructure, you say?

If you won't do it, perhaps someone else will.

Are you in a take it or leave it position yet?

I can't stand managing people but even then it sounds like a reasonable uplift.

When I managed people I only earned a few quid more than them per hour. Though obviously this was pretty low level work compared to your job.

I’m OUTRAGED on your behalf OP

It also depends on the type of work. If it’s, for example three lawyers/accountants, where you are personally responsible for their work then no, 20 k more at that tax level is not worth it.

If, as you have mentioned, you can easy walk into
another volunteer for redundancy, bank the cash and have a good buffer.

Please do not pass your mindset to your kids, ever.

Only if you think that those on less than OP have the sole authority to determine the ‘tone’ of her own thread.

If really doesn’t matter what other people make in other jobs managing more people. What matters is what’s normal in her industry. If others in the same position are making more than £125k then it would be an insulting offer.

£125k takes her over the 60% cliff edge, and as such may not be worth it when considering what she would actually be getting in return for the increased level of responsibility she would be taking on.

These days, there's so many people out of work that salaries/uplift etc seem to be much lower than in the past, in real terms.
Work out how much it would mean for you in reality (pensions, holidays, extra childcare costs if relevant etc) and then make your decision. But without wanting to sound negative, and I don't know your field, it's not easy to get the pay and conditions a lot of us used to expect,

Also, OP, they are coming in with their absolutely lowest ball offer. I reckon they would double it, to save them the problem of managing those people.

Seems like an 'issue' no one can help you with then, OP. You think it's unfair – decline it then. Not sure what you want.

An approx 20% pay rise for taking on three people is completely reasonable.

I manage about thirty people and it's such a chore that I'm actively looking for a job with no line management responsibility. Having said that it's a 20% uplift so it's really whether you think the extra responsibility is worth it for the effort it will take.

For balance, some jobs barely pay the increase you are getting for the whole year.
ignore me, I'm worn out looking for new jobs that want the moon yet pay minimum wage

I'm amazed that you've managed to be on over £100k with no line management responsibilities, you've done well to avoid! London does make a difference though...
The take-home uplift in salary will probably be minimal and financially probably not worth the extra hassle. If you're looking to line manage in your future career development plans then yes it's probably a step towards that but otherwise, no.
I'd be saying 'no thanks, it's a compliment of you to ask me to consider, but I'm not your woman for it. Have you thought about X or y? They'd be great!'

It’s not insulting but if you faint want to do it, decline. I don’t understand the outrage.

This thread is really tone deaf

So quite a sizeable increase for three staff. I would consider that worth it - as I wouldn’t get anything like that sort of increase in the public sector (where I work). However if it’s not worth it to you, I’d respectfully decline..

People are a nightmare OP. After tax, that £20,000 is getting you, what - £1,000 per month? £300 per person, for all that hassle?

Don't do it! Or get them to up their offer. Appreciably.

Extra 20k a year to manage 3 folk......bless

Depends on who the 3 people are and how much managing is required. Overall I think it sounds like a fair salary increase on an already massive salary.

Whether the amount is an insult would depend entirely on the norms in your industry and company. In general, a ~20% uptick in pay for taking on 3 reports would be okay, in some places it would be a lot. But if people at your company normally get a lot more, then it isn’t.

It doesn’t really matter if other people think it’s a good deal, OP. The relevant question is, is the extra work worth it to you? You seem quite clear that you think not.

So it’s not at all unreasonable to turn it down. It’s probably unreasonable to literally tell them to stuff it.

I took on the line management of 2 additional members of staff on top of my 1 already and got zero pay rise! I do find it hard to feel sorry for someone grumbling about a measly £20k pay rise.

20k a year is 12k after tax given you are in the highest bd, so 1k a month extra (or on nice holiday a year). Personally I would take it, but I quite enjoy the management part of my role, but I guess it depends how much you value you put on the extra tasks.

A competent manager shouldn't find 3 direct reports too taxing, so I'd say thats a decent increase

I line manage 23 people on £54k. In London iirc, it’s about £62k for the same role. I have a high level of clinical competency and level 7 qualifications. It’s a job where people can and occasionally do, die. It’s a lot of responsibility.
If you don’t want to line manage people then how much money is really enough? I don’t think it’s an insult though. They aren’t asking for anything special.