To find salary offered an insult?

Many people do on salaries much less

Judging from your OP and subsequent replies, no I don't think you should take on the line management responsibility.

Have you tried relocating? Asking for flexible working? Your domestic setup is not a factor for your .

if you have nursery age children you still have a lot of career left.

a) stay where you are because it suits you
b) decide you need management experience to progress.

I know a CEO of a charity in London. 40 staff, £70k. She earns £20k more than head of department.

£20k certainly not insulting

Take it or don’t but no need for drama. What do you think it is worth?

I think it's reasonable too. If you don't want to do it just decline. No need to feel insulted.

I suspect this is a wind up, as the OP isn’t really engaging.

OP - just tell them to ‘stuff it’.

The problem with people comparing here is that we don’t know OP’s sector or role.

The other main issue is the salary bracket here. Whilst £20k sounds a lot, you start losing the personal allowance. The net difference is £633 per month. This is £146 per week and less than £4 per hour to deal with all the grief being a manager brings. I can see why she’s not happy

The six figure salary plainly didn’t require manners judging by your attitude to people you have asked for thoughts. The question of whether or not someone else will take the role is relevant and not covered by your previous posts. An alternate person taking on the role can result in more changes which affect you.

20k increment (plus the associated increase in bonuses calculated on a percentage bonus) is pretty standard for a grade hike for those only just breaking the 100k level. There are not many jobs which would give a grade hike for managing only three people.

However since you don’t need or particularly want the job tell them to stuff it and move elsewhere.

How about we think £20k as percentage of current pay and OP's other roles instead of then getting huffy.

I'm on an FTE of around £25k in the voluntary sector outside London and manage just fine. If I had a price at all to manage people I'd want a lot more than 16%.

Does their Dad not contribute to their upbringing?

It’s not really possible to opine on whether that’s fair without knowing a lot more about your industry and role. I’d probably be thinking less about the salary and more about whether wanting to avoid management responsibilities would hold me back in other ways, and if so does that matter?

i'll do it!! I got nothing extra for adding 2 direct reports to my role! Whilst I know what the headache it can bring, I don't see that as unreasonable. You are over the 40% tax bracket anyway with bonuses I assume so there is no additional tax band to consider atm. Bung the extra in your pension and retire earlier?!!

I don’t earn that much but losing the personal allowance and childcare bit would swing it for me. You’re not as actually going to see that much of the payrise due to tax so unless you can get it all into a pension out of the way where it should be worth a lot more to you in future, the net take home difference is not enough for the change in role.
I wouldn’t do it, I do not want to manage people.

Rather than tell them to stuff it, tell them what would make it worth your while

I wouldn't do it, no.

I purposely avoided staff management in my current company after decades of managing large teams in senior management roles in multinationals.

I'd possibly go back to it but nowhere near worth the hassle for £20k for me. Other people's opinions will differ, obviously. I suppose if it means the difference between having very little left at the end of the month and having an extra £thousand or so, then to some people it's probably worthwhile, but if it's just more spare cash on top of other money you don't need, then it wouldn't be for me.

You only have to read some of the threads on here to see just how shit a lot of people are to manage. Some MNers' level of entitlement and unwillingness to take responsibility for themselves must make them an absolute nightmare to manage and I think that's borne out in many workplaces nowadays.

This is what's so odd. "You're good at your problem-solving, professionally-trained-for job? Great! Let's give you some PEOPLE to deal with!" 🤔

Exactly this. Remember the silent tax between £100k and £125k - you'll need to factor that in.

Basically, if you need the extra money, try and counter but if they won't go higher, go with it. If you can do without the extra money, don't do it knowing you don't enjoy managing (which I completely get, I wouldn't go back to doing it).

To me that sounds an amazing salary.

I’m a senior academic with the added responsibility of being programme lead and managing the other academics on my programme. As well as being the “manager” for over 100 students.

I get paid an extra £500 a year before tax for being programme lead and having those management responsibilities. Which takes my salary up to the dizzy heights of just under 50k!

Me too.

I left a Civil Service role where managing people was expected at my grade in 2013.

Swore never to manage people again and achieved that in subsequent career.

My sister says I'm better with problems then people :-)

I think you are living in cloud cuckoo land 😂

The "cliff edge" is a curious taxation anomaly. Presumably some Chancellor with a bit of sense will sort it out one day.

Until then, salary sacrifice into a pension is good value,

And your response?

Start a mumsnet thread 😆

The problem, OP, is that you've included your salary, and because its quite a high salary, you're just going to be inundated with people telling you how much less they earn and how much harder they work/how many more people they manage (without the faintest idea what you actually do for a living, what a standard salary is in your industry etc.).

I think if it feels insulting to you, and as others have said, the tax will mean you actually get very little extra take home, then decline it, or go back with a counter offer of what you want.

Yes, OP has made that clear.