To find salary offered an insult?

Which isn't far off what OP would be getting after tax per managed person.

I manage people of half of your current salary, but it hugely depends on the sector. I voted AIBU but appreciate the increase can be seen as an insult in your field of work

That would also be my concern.

i wouldn’t find the uplift “insulting” though. My mate got a 50p ph uplift about 12 years ago for taking on supervisory responsibilities in her role.

Something far more important than saving lives or caring for the sick, doubtless. And hell slap it into ye for not negotiating a better deal out of the bountiful fields of plenty that is the NHS.

How much trouble are these 3 people going to be?!

I’d be more worried about the tax and actual take home pay.

😂

@Willowtree5
Wow.
I'm a hospital ward Sister.
I am responsible for managing the care of 26 critically ill patients and a team of 20 staff of mixed skill levels, some of whom need huge levels of supervision to ensure high standards of care.
I am paid a salary of £47,810. London.
I would be crying with gratitude to be earning your current salary, let alone your proposed one.
What job do you do?

take it, don't take it but stop with the "insulted" flouncing.

£20k at that level is circa an extra £680 a month. OP loses approx 12k in tax.

Not an insult OP but not something I would take on for that level of tax especially if you get help with nursery fees.

I'm guessing lawyer or accountant. Or some kind of business role, like an internal management consultant, but without the people hassle.

In the kindest way, you should never accept this cheeky fuckery from your employer. If you suddenly asked to relinquish some of your responsibilities, they would absolutely impose a pay cut on you.

Then she can turn it down and carry on as she is or turn it down and sod off somewhere else. What is ridiculous is the huffing about “insults” for an approximate 20% increase in salary with the only additional expectation being to manage three people.

Its the faux outrage which I suspect triggers the eyerolls. It certainly triggered one in me even if I didn’t add it to my post.

Personally I think that’s a pretty hefty increase. However if you don’t want to do it don’t.

I managed a 29 bedded hospital ward staff, as well as patients and their relatives - for far far less money. You definitely work in a different world! don’t accept it if you don’t want the extra responsibility

It's not an insult. 🙄. Either accept it or not. No drama needed. 🤷‍♀️

This
I know people who are earning less than half of that who manage teams of at least ten people

It depends on what you want to do longer term. Lots of people struggle to get promotion to leadership roles because they don’t have line management experience. If you’ve already got this or aren’t looking for career progression at the moment then it sounds like the pay increase won’t be enough for you to want to do it.

If this gives you better career prospects longer term, £20k looks like a fair and reasonable uplift.

The pay band you’re in of just over £100k is one you don’t want to get stuck in because of the tax implications. But if you’re lucky enough that your pay and career are heading that way then the trick is to get promoted through it as quickly as possible.

I manage 4 people and I'm on £28k. What do you do to earn over £100k with no line management responsibility?

It depends whether that increase is worth, to you, the ball ache of managing. Everyone is different. Could you delegate any of the ‘people stuff’ to a deputy or team leader? Personally managing people is my idea of hell, but I’d certainly do it for an extra £20k. Maybe even £10k.

You haven’t said what your bonus is. So the marginal tax rate might already not be an issue.

but no, it doesn’t sound like this role would play to your strengths

Agreed.

This has car crash stamped all over it.

Really? Where?

It's all relative.............no point in comparing the OP's current salary and the uplifts with someone else who is in retail at £45k managing 6 people. We don't know what line of business the OP is in.

On face value - she's currently earning just over £100k with no direct reports....for an additional £20k she will have 3 direct reports - I'm not sure if her job will also evolve (take on more responsibility ontop of managing 3 people)

In my eyes it doesn't seem worth it from only this info. Is this techincally a promotion? Will you have more leadship responsibilities? Will this mean you have more career progression - if the answer is yes maybe you have to weigh in the benefits of having a higher profile at work vs a smaller increase in pay. However if everything remains the same and you are just managing 3 people, where you'll have less time to do your own work, less flexibility, more mental work load....then maybe I wouldn't go for it.

This, it’s not really worth it. I would say no

I think realistically its an annoying amount because of pushing you into the next tax bracket, so I wouldnt do it on that basis. Especially if you hate management.

But then I managed 18 people on 32k and it caused me so much stress I swore off management for life....