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To find salary offered an insult?

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Willowtree5 · 16/10/2025 14:20

As part of a restructure, I have been asked if I would take on three direct reports (I currently don’t manage anyone, but have in the past - big pull of current role was no line management responsibility).

I said I’d consider it - whilst I know I can manage people, it does add to my workload and the ‘mental load’ of dealing with all the crap around sickness/absence, 1:1’s etc.

My manager said she’d establish what additional uplift to my salary would be possible and let me know.

They’ve come back with an offer of £125,000 (current salary pre bonuses £105,000) which I find frankly insulting given the workload this would add.

AIBU to tell them to stuff it?

OP posts:
sussexman · 16/10/2025 17:09

Willowtree5 · 16/10/2025 14:20

As part of a restructure, I have been asked if I would take on three direct reports (I currently don’t manage anyone, but have in the past - big pull of current role was no line management responsibility).

I said I’d consider it - whilst I know I can manage people, it does add to my workload and the ‘mental load’ of dealing with all the crap around sickness/absence, 1:1’s etc.

My manager said she’d establish what additional uplift to my salary would be possible and let me know.

They’ve come back with an offer of £125,000 (current salary pre bonuses £105,000) which I find frankly insulting given the workload this would add.

AIBU to tell them to stuff it?

I'm with you, OP. Going from managing no one to managing 3 people is a big change - an 8k after-tax pay rise (max) in exchange isn't the most generous thing in the world. As with others, I'd either say "No" or say "I'd be happy to do that, but I'd want to be looking at a salary of X in exchange". You can use https://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php to do rough take-home change estimates personal to you.

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theriseandfallofFranklinSaint · 16/10/2025 17:06

Sounds amazing to me but then I took on 5 direct reports for a measly £5k payrise - the amount of extra work is ridiculous, I'd much rather be on £5k less and have less stress!

JLou08 · 16/10/2025 17:05

I work for the local authority and managing 3 people would take me up a grade and I'd earn £42k instead of £40k. Is MN the SM site of the elite? So many posts acting like earning over a 100k is the norm and being offended by salary offers that would be a dream for the majority of people.

Zeborah · 16/10/2025 17:03

That’s a reasonable offer. In the public sector you would just be expected to do it

Bobbingtons · 16/10/2025 17:03

MauriceTheMussel · 16/10/2025 14:45

I’d counter - the tax hit is going to be shit, but is there a price point that does work for you?

If it was me and line management was something I was happy with I'd shift 20% into pension contributions and then plan to retire 5+ years early or however much depending on how much longer you have to work.
20% uplift is huge. I'm my last company (big 4) my senior manager retired and my manager was given his role whilst retaining his old one, went from managing 5 to managing upwards of 20, had to work 80 hour weeks often 7 days a week and was given sweet fuck all. Most places have given well under 10% for adding line management responsibilities.
If you don't want the responsibility that's fine, but this is a very generous increase to salary.

AzurePanda · 16/10/2025 17:02

I think the pay offer is reasonable but the idiotic tax system means it’s not worth taking on the extra responsibility and hassle given the impact on your take home pay.

TheendofmrY · 16/10/2025 17:02

Just decline the offer if it’s not worth it to you. It seems reasonable though and I’m not sure why you’re so insulted by it that you’re saying tell them to stuff it.

I line manage 4 people and get paid no more than others on my pay grade that have no line management responsibilities. It’s not the way it works with our pay grades, but it does mean should I want to go for promotion I might have a better case than them (but not necessarily).

lifeonthelane · 16/10/2025 17:01

Wow. I manage up to 24 people daily (changes based on the day, part time cobtracts etc) on a 0.8 contract and earn 36k per year. Public sector sucks 😂

CheezePleeze · 16/10/2025 17:01

ilovesooty · 16/10/2025 16:17

She seems to have a high opinion of herself and has been pretty rude to some people on this thread.

Yeah this is what I don't get.

If she's so big and important that she can just 'walk' into another job if she's restructured out of this one, why has she turned to a parenting website for advice?

Embarrassing.

Thisiswhatitsoundslike81 · 16/10/2025 17:01

YABU.... But only because I only know of restructures in the HEI sector whereby people have been told they're now managing X number of people (having zero reports before) with absolutely no increase in salary and staying on the same grade as others who have no LM responsibility...

Oh, and on about a third of the salary you've been offered!

Firedrink · 16/10/2025 17:01

OP, you are perfectly reasonable to say no thanks to a low ball offer after tax.
What exactly is the net gain, versus the responsibility.
You already have huge sole responsibility in your private life, such an increase in work needs to be worth your while.
Yanbu at all.

SwarmsofLadybirds · 16/10/2025 16:57

sosorryimnotsorry · 16/10/2025 14:40

Nobody needs over £100k sorry YABU. I would expect anyone over £100k to be having huge responsibilities including managing people. You are just being greedy

What a bloody ridiculous mindset.

thankgoditssaturday · 16/10/2025 16:57

You’ve clearly never worked in the health service!

SpigTheFish · 16/10/2025 16:56

I dont think its insulting but you will get clobbered for tax, and probably won't see much of an increase.

I'd turn it down because I hate managing people.

SwarmsofLadybirds · 16/10/2025 16:55

OP, I wouldn't find it insulting but bear in mind it's their first offer. Why don't you counter it? They can only say no.

Doyouthinktheyknow · 16/10/2025 16:53

I don’t think it’s unreasonable personally but it’s entirely your choice!

I don’t agree with it but in the NHS the difference between a band 6 charge nurse and band 7 Ward Manager was less than £1k a year when I stepped up. The difference in responsibility was enormous. I was managing nearly 30 people.

I did get an incremental rise after 2 years but stepped back a band in a different role with no managerial responsibilities and I now earn more because I do unsocial hours for a huge amount less stress.

GinSwiggers · 16/10/2025 16:53

You need to look at the salaries of your colleagues who are on that level of responsibility. There will be bands and you can't expect more than others with more responsibility.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 16/10/2025 16:53

I have 6 direct reports on £160,000 if relevant.

SwarmsofLadybirds · 16/10/2025 16:52

notthemayo · 16/10/2025 15:04

Just to add OP (as it seems to be central to your case) that I live in London too. Nursery fees of over £1500pcm. Husband who earns significantly less than me. And yet we survive!

You don't say your household income, but if it's around 90k ish split Iver 2 salaries then you're probably taking home more or the same as OP on a single salary of 105k. Plus you can claim child benefit which she won't be able to.

Butchyrestingface · 16/10/2025 16:52

Neurodiversitydoctor · 16/10/2025 16:49

It's £2.80 ph extra after tax.

I’ll tell my mate she’s in the wrong line of business. 😀

Butchyrestingface · 16/10/2025 16:51

LooseCanyon · 16/10/2025 16:46

Which isn't far off what OP would be getting after tax per managed person.

In which case, I’d only do it if there was a clear hell out of dodge progression route. 🙂

justasking111 · 16/10/2025 16:51

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 16/10/2025 16:04

Judging from your OP and subsequent replies, no I don't think you should take on the line management responsibility.

Nor I. Not because of the responsibility but the timing. You're on your own with young children. You don't need more on your plate just now.

Princejoffyjaffur · 16/10/2025 16:49

YourPeppyAmberTraybake · 16/10/2025 14:28

I think it sounds a really decent rise and it could lead to career progression.

My DH managed 150 people and earned 185k including his bonus.

no one can manage 150 people effectively. I suspect he had direct reports.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 16/10/2025 16:49

Butchyrestingface · 16/10/2025 16:43

That would also be my concern.

i wouldn’t find the uplift “insulting” though. My mate got a 50p ph uplift about 12 years ago for taking on supervisory responsibilities in her role.

It's £2.80 ph extra after tax.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 16/10/2025 16:47

HolyMacaroniBatman · 16/10/2025 16:24

It depends on what you want to do longer term. Lots of people struggle to get promotion to leadership roles because they don’t have line management experience. If you’ve already got this or aren’t looking for career progression at the moment then it sounds like the pay increase won’t be enough for you to want to do it.

If this gives you better career prospects longer term, £20k looks like a fair and reasonable uplift.

The pay band you’re in of just over £100k is one you don’t want to get stuck in because of the tax implications. But if you’re lucky enough that your pay and career are heading that way then the trick is to get promoted through it as quickly as possible.

This I had a year or so in this bracket now through it so much better.

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