my university is allowing men to enter women's bathrooms changing rooms etc!

I'm very open to gender identity etc. I'm bi, and I have friends of all gender identities. I have trans friends, those who don't conform to binaries, etc, and I respect them greatly. and I am completely okay with sharing the majority of bathrooms at the uni, as that doesn't both me

I sincerely hope you’ve never bitched about anyone being a terf or a bigot or criticised them because they don’t want to share bathrooms (or anything else) with men?

In my gym it totally doesn’t.
Missing on the entertainment, it seems.
I did see gender neutral cubicles in some unis, but, like, enclosed spaces. No snakes on show.

I don't believe this is true. I work in a university.

Why would a communication come from multiple heads of department? No undergrads call lecturers "supervisors" and a PhD wouldn't have several. Also UK unis are so legally risk averse/keen to avoid bad publicity and the tide has turned so sharply on this they'd be utterly stupid to send it out

Agree - and of a sample size of 3500 odd people only approx 40 were transgender. It’s generally considered poor practice to compare stats from two mismatched populations - ie you cannot compare the stats because you need a larger sample size for the T group.

I’d also want more data about the spread of the ages. The mean ages are close between women and trans women, but in a small sample size the spread for the TW may have been 30-50, thus lifestyle may have played into it (were they assaulted in bar or night clubs loos, which are high risk) whereas if half of the 1500ish ‘cis’ women were over 50 and rarely visit such places, the population is not comparable is it?

A study of 100 people, 50 trans and 50 cis, aged between 21-50, selected from the same clubs/bars would produce more meaningful data, data that would allow comparisons. As it stands factors such as lifestyle have not been controlled for. It was an online questionnaire for which parties were paid $4, ie self-selecting and other variables such as age and lifestyle were not controlled.

Where have you been? It’s been happening in gyms across the UK. Also hospital wards, rape crisis centres and prisons.

what do you think woman have been objecting to?

Is this post for real?
I’m just picturing it — I’ve had my nice sweaty workout at the gym, pop into the shower to make myself socially acceptable, and there’s some bloke giving his snake a full wash and shake.
I honestly don’t give a fuck about many things in life, but this one would definitely raise an eyebrow.
Is this really happening at a UK uni?!

If you allow one man into women's spaces, you allow all men in.
Claiming you're "trans identifying" is not measurable or provable.
So if men who claim they identify as women are granted access, all men, including the harmful ones you mentioned, are granted access as there's no way to differentiate between those two groups.

No pretense required, no claiming to be a woman. You're opening the doors and welcoming them in. All of them.

Women (inc trans women) are more vulnerable in general and especially in changing rooms and other protected spaces
As transwomen are male, you’re actually saying ‘Women (inc men) are more vulnerable in general and especially in changing rooms and other protected spaces*. In other words, you’re talking nonsense.

Having some mixed gender facilities is not cruel. They should have spent the last how ever many years campaigning for them instead of trying to force themselves into womens spaces.

Women are not responsible keeping 'vulnerable' men safe.

None of this research seems to be from the UK.

It's fine to not want 'unharmful' men looking at you either, or to have to see them in a womans changing room. Why are there single sex changing rooms in the first place of it's fine for men to be in an open plan space getting changed with women?

I can't even begin with a study that thinks that women are a subset of a class of people which includes men.

Not to mention that that 'violence' includes words and applies to a country that i don't live in. I wonder if the males in this study partake in risky activity? I know that in South America the high incidence of violence against males with trans identities is directly linked to the fact that so many of them are prostitutes. Not that that is acceptable of course.

In this country I think the reliable source is our own Ministry of Justice statistics which demonstrate that transwomen are at least as likely (if not statistically more likely) to commit violent crimes than any other man.

Frankly put these men are not women's problems. We are not their mothers.

They're just changing the language to gaslight the population

Nope. Wherever prison stats are collected they show the same pattern of men with trans identities having hire rates of sexual offending. UK and Canada are remarkably similar with around 48% of TIMs in prison having convictions for sexual offences vs around 19% for the rest of the male prison population

This isn’t true. 😏

I no longer pay any attention to this given that we have doctors saying that sex is a nebulous dog whistle and claim that asking for single sex provision rather than gendered is a hate crime.

It's meaningless where everything is a hate crime.

Are you sure?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11200137/#:~:text=Wald%20χ2%20test%20P,IPV%20relative%20to%20cisgender%20women.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2820301#:~:text=Past%2Dyear%20physical%20violence%20was,TGD%20individuals%20from%20discriminatory%20violence.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/26895269.2024.2440856

Sorry, but this is bullshit.

You're right that if harmful men wanted to harm you they'd find a way, but there are plenty of cases where transwomen have utilised being able access single sex provisions to abuse girls and women. It's a fetish.

The trouble is that if there are no safeguards, rules, or laws in place then there's hardly any consequence for their actions. There are no deterrents because they know by and large they can get away with it.

I have experience of this. I have been repeatedly sexually harassed in a female only space by a transwoman and I am the one that's been demonised for trying to raise the issue, forced out of work, and lost an income.

I am the one who got branded bigoted for not wanting a man to video call, record and ejaculate in the cubicle next to me while I was on my hands and knees with hyperemesis so violent, it made me wet myself from the abdominal contractions, meaning I was often in some state of undress. I'm the one that got told it wasn't possible for there to be a man in the womens bathrooms because the man in the womans bathroom hadn't come out as trans, despite being over 6 foot, broad shoulders, 5 o'clock stubble, deep voice, square jaw, adams apple, massive feet and so until they say they are male, they're female. I'm the one that got told I'd be doxing them and outing them if I took my complaints further. I'm the one that was told the authorities wouldn't help me because there was no evidence of wrong doing and all people want to do is use the toilet, and gaslit into thinking I'm hearing and seeing things that aren't there.

If burglars wanted to burgle your home, they'd do it, but you make it much easier for them if you leave the door unlocked.

Does the sign on the door have magical properties that stop those with a penis entering? No, of course not. But at least now we have legal recourse for those that continue to push those boundaries, even though it's still so bloody hard to get service providers and employers on side because of their woeful lack of equality impact assessments, risk assessments and updated policies that reflect the law.

Frankly? Put up or shut up. As the saying goes.

You want to appear all fluffy and nice and supportive. But you aren't and you want someone else to take the flack

Slow handclap. Well done.

This is not at all true.

But even if it were are you suggesting that women need to act as human shields to vulnerable males?

And are you extending that to all vulnerable males or just the ones who wear dresses?

No, they don’t, they have a higher rate of being VICTIMS of sexual offences.

Quite right!

How many biological women when asked their sex (its usually obvious, and generally wouldn't be asked, but lets be hypothetical here) would say they were a "Cis woman" and not just a "Woman", like there was any other kind.

No of course not, showing us a copy of the letter would be too "outing" for which Uni she's at and OP has mad eit clear that she isn't even prepared to report them anonymously because of "Backlash".

We don't need the offensive prefix for woman/women.

The only prefix required is 'trans' for the pretend women.