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TabithaMerlot · 16/10/2025 09:42

I just think everyone should know about these details, published yesterday:

‘Prince Andrew believed having sex with me was his birthright’: Virginia Giuffre on her abuse at the hands of Epstein, Maxwell and the king’s brother www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/15/prince-andrew-virginia-giuffre-abuse-epstein-maxwell?CMP=share_btn_url

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HelenaWaiting · 19/10/2025 06:40

user1471453601 · 16/10/2025 19:13

@SerendipityJane so if Andrew did sue the publisher of the book, it would be for Andrew to prove because he would be the one accusing. Is that what you mean?

No. As everyone knows, you cannot prove a negative. If he sued for libel it would be for the publishers to prove that the allegations were true, or that they had taken reasonable steps to corroborate them.

Lampzade · 19/10/2025 06:34

The King’s brother is and has always been an entitled , nasty , arrogant prick who was coddled and protected by his mother .

XWKD · 19/10/2025 06:23

In the coming years this could become a major political issue. If the monarchy wants to continue to exist, he needs to be exiled -although he'd probably end up in Mar-a-Lago. 🤢

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:28

FluentOP · 16/10/2025 19:07

It will all be brushed under the carpet. He might get a small punishment like not being allowed to attend royal Christmas dinner but apart from that it’s “nothing to see here. Never explain, never complain”. The same happened with his great uncle, Mountbatten (see link). The young boys in Kincora Care Home were treated abominably by the establishment. The royal family are corrupt and rotten to the core. They are above the law and exempt from Freedom of Information requests. It’s time for them to go.

https://www.irishacademicpress.ie/product/kincora/

Thank you for raising this .
It is often ignored .

FluentOP · 18/10/2025 12:26

XWKD · 18/10/2025 08:08

There must have been a good fairy reading MN. Your wish is her command!🎉

Well it wasn’t really taken away from him: he just said that he will no longer use the titles. He has tried to make himself look “honourable “ by saying that he will no longer use them as though he has made that decision . He needs to be held accountable for being part of the whole Epstein scandal. He is still denying it even though he emailed Epstein the day after the Virginia photograph appeared in the newspapers and instead of saying to Epstein “who is that in the photo, I have never met that girl”, instead he said “we are in this together “ and “we will play again soon”. He is a vile excuse for a human being. His family have been covering his tracks including his mother.

XWKD · 18/10/2025 08:08

ShenandoahRiver · 16/10/2025 19:43

@ladyofshertonabbas
He needs to have his title of Duke of York stripped from him and he needs have the honour of being a Knight of the Garter removed too.
But in all truth neither of these will ever happen.

There must have been a good fairy reading MN. Your wish is her command!🎉

WineBeforeWhine · 18/10/2025 07:50

True. And will we still be paying for his security? Parliament now needs to revoke his dukedom.

TheExcitersblowingupmymind · 18/10/2025 07:43

Not before giving him 12 million to buy silence.

WineBeforeWhine · 18/10/2025 07:41

Vile (I bet he’s sweaty now) excuse of a man, the late Queen must have been ashamed of him.

Chas, lied all through his first marriage. What does that make him?

YumYa · 18/10/2025 07:38

Just been reading about Victoria. So sad for her dcs.

SixSeven · 18/10/2025 00:00

TheExcitersblowingupmymind · 17/10/2025 23:47

He's one sleazy bastard but he wasn't the only that accepted
Epstein's hospitality and all that entailed.
Hopefully more will be named.

Agree on all counts. No doubt there are plenty of famous people involved in this, yet only a couple of Brits have been targeted. Who is hiding what, and why?

JudgeJ · 17/10/2025 23:56

Goldeh · 16/10/2025 17:20

He won't sue them because he cannot provide any evidence that the allegations aren't true. He even goes as far as saying he never met her despite evidence to the contrary. The sad fact of it though is that so many of the people involved are rich enough and connected enough that it's unlikely the full facts will ever come out.

But what's the real evidence that it's true? Because someone claims something happened doesn't make it true, after her death there seems to be a queue of people ready to milk the sad situation.

TheExcitersblowingupmymind · 17/10/2025 23:47

He's one sleazy bastard but he wasn't the only that accepted
Epstein's hospitality and all that entailed.
Hopefully more will be named.

Itsrainingatlast · 17/10/2025 20:10

His titles have gone! And Sarah’s as well.

Just a shame that he still gets to live in the lap
of luxury.

ClareBlue · 17/10/2025 00:22

It is a phase particularly associated with hereditary people that is generally said by others when criticising them and definitely makes a good line in a book to sell it as we are seeing. However entitled and vile Andrew actually is, it's hard to believe even he thinks he has an entitlement to shag random 17 year olds because of his birth status.
The reports that he guessed her age correct because it was a bit older than his daughters is the worst part of that bit. He knew exactly how young and vulnerable girls of that age were but still had no problem in getting his sexual gratification with her. That shows a serious deviant character.

imfabul0us · 16/10/2025 23:51

FluentOP · 16/10/2025 19:07

It will all be brushed under the carpet. He might get a small punishment like not being allowed to attend royal Christmas dinner but apart from that it’s “nothing to see here. Never explain, never complain”. The same happened with his great uncle, Mountbatten (see link). The young boys in Kincora Care Home were treated abominably by the establishment. The royal family are corrupt and rotten to the core. They are above the law and exempt from Freedom of Information requests. It’s time for them to go.

https://www.irishacademicpress.ie/product/kincora/

Flowers
FluentOP · 16/10/2025 23:27

ShenandoahRiver · 16/10/2025 19:34

@PinkPanther57 · Today 19:33

Don’t these new revelations include comments about his own daughters only being marginally older?
No, he guessed Virginia's age and made the comment that his daughters were slightly younger. What a vile, loathsome man.

What a repugnant man. To mention his daughters whilst having the intention of molesting that poor girl and not seeing the irony of it ! How can any parent be friends with a convicted paedophile . His ex wife is no better: a patron of children’s charities and friends with Epstein !!! That family live by different rules than the rest of us. They are morally corrupt. Charles was recently trying to bring them back into the fold and pulling the wool over our eyes. He is also an entitled selfish man. I remember him taking Diana and the newly born Harry home from hospital and then driving off to meet Mrs Parker Bowles.

Popopopopol · 16/10/2025 20:55

Why would he sue the publisher, even he thought it was defamatory? All the claim would be is another washing of dirty linen in the public arena when presumably what he wants is for this stuff to all go away. It makes far more sense to let the book be published, for there to be headlines for a couple of weeks, and then the vast majority of people move on and it becomes yesterday’s news.

Topseyt123 · 16/10/2025 20:35

He's a total fuckwit. Corrupt and sleazy as hell and was absolutely his mother's golden child. For her I think the sun shone out of his arse and although she had to go into damage limitation mode at times, he could still do no wrong.

I hope the royal family continues to keep him at arm's length and out of the public eye as much as possible, and so far they are doing that. If they don't then they would be no better than he is.

I do have some sympathy for the King and for William, who will have to contend with his fuck ups and the consequences for a long time to come. They've inherited this problem, both from the late Queen and from the arsehole Andrew himself. I don't think there is a real solution to it, apart from trying to keep him as quiet as possible and limiting the voice he gets.

Personally, I do think that he should be stripped of all of his remaining titles (HRH, Duke of York etc.). I doubt he will be though.

Horrendous man.

PinkPanther57 · 16/10/2025 20:18

LakieLady · 16/10/2025 20:15

It's excellent, especially on all the money stuff.

He and his ex appear to be little more than a pair of posh grifters.

ETA: I'm minded to lend my copy to MIL. She enjoys a good read, but is sycophantically pro-royal

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Sarah’s sexual self confidence seemingly knows no bounds, his too.

LakieLady · 16/10/2025 20:15

Itsrainingatlast · 16/10/2025 19:31

Andrew Lownie’s book, Entitled is excellent: https://amzn.eu/d/f0ljZmY
I don’t think anything from VG is not already out there.
Dreadful man, and I have to say, entirely enabled by his mother.

It's excellent, especially on all the money stuff.

He and his ex appear to be little more than a pair of posh grifters.

ETA: I'm minded to lend my copy to MIL. She enjoys a good read, but is sycophantically pro-royal

LakieLady · 16/10/2025 20:11

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ShenandoahRiver · 16/10/2025 20:00

It doesn't appear to be @PinkPanther57
Beatrice was in attendance at the opening of the Mayfair branch of First Abu Dhabi Bank in August. Grinning away. She knows exactly where the money is and is determined to keep her nose in the trough.

PinkPanther57 · 16/10/2025 19:49

It must be so difficult for his daughters.

ShenandoahRiver · 16/10/2025 19:43

@ladyofshertonabbas
He needs to have his title of Duke of York stripped from him and he needs have the honour of being a Knight of the Garter removed too.
But in all truth neither of these will ever happen.

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