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TabithaMerlot · 16/10/2025 09:42

I just think everyone should know about these details, published yesterday:

‘Prince Andrew believed having sex with me was his birthright’: Virginia Giuffre on her abuse at the hands of Epstein, Maxwell and the king’s brother www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/15/prince-andrew-virginia-giuffre-abuse-epstein-maxwell?CMP=share_btn_url

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SixSeven · 19/10/2025 23:41

ARichtGoodDram · 19/10/2025 23:28

For the same reasons Harry's children became HrH Prince and Princess when Charles became king - current LP's from 1917 grant all male line grandchildren of the monarch the HrH and Prince or Princess title.

I wonder if William will change that for Charlotte. In fact it’d be better if Charles did it now.

ARichtGoodDram · 19/10/2025 23:28

Iwantmyoldnameback · 19/10/2025 21:04

Why are they even Princesses? They aren't the children of a reigning monarch nor directly in line like William and Harry.

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For the same reasons Harry's children became HrH Prince and Princess when Charles became king - current LP's from 1917 grant all male line grandchildren of the monarch the HrH and Prince or Princess title.

PinkPanther57 · 19/10/2025 23:25

NotVWoolf · 19/10/2025 23:17

So anyone know if there is any truth in the rumour that Lord Porchester -below - (Queenies racing manager) is A’s father?

I’d have said no, but as Royal reporters have said PA was a extraordinary ‘blind spot’ for the late Queen.

NotVWoolf · 19/10/2025 23:17

So anyone know if there is any truth in the rumour that Lord Porchester -below - (Queenies racing manager) is A’s father?

Prince Andrew
RainbowBagels · 19/10/2025 22:11

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 14:57

Back in 2019, when he was pulling the "Pizza Express" defence, I suggested that his bodyguard would know the truth.

Wasnt this asked, and apparently the notebooks were ' lost'? The lengths people ( police, palace staff, Parliament, the press) will go to to cover up numerous Royal shenanigans must be astronomical. Why can't/wont they hold them to account? It cant just he for the gongs surely? This country is run by absolute self interested arselickers top to bottom.

TaraRhu · 19/10/2025 22:03

@PinkPanther57 I think so too. They charge an absolute fortune to get into their palaces but don't seem to spent any of their own cash! What's that all about?

They royals are covering their own backs. I'm not against the royals at all but there are some things I think need to be addressed.

PinkPanther57 · 19/10/2025 22:02

Onlyonmumsne · 19/10/2025 21:59

Where are these emails coming from and why are they suddenly available when they were not beforehand- especially around the time of his NewsNight interview etc?

Investigations mean now too many have sight. So…inevitably, leaks.

PinkPanther57 · 19/10/2025 21:59

TaraRhu · 19/10/2025 21:30

I really don't think he will care or understand why his titles are gone. This is normal behaviour for him and the sort of people he is mixing with.
He will just see it as some sort of act of the little people.

The only thing that would get him is taking away his money. But he's slippery and so is fergie. Their daughters are now well enough off to support them anyway if they went bankrupt.

I have to say I think k the rest of the royals are getting of lightly. They all must've known all about Andrew and his lifestyle. They have 24/7 surveillance and mi5 must be all over them for their protection. Surely they should have not swept this under the rug the carpet for 20+ years?? Plus who paid for his settlement? Why couldn't he pay that himself? He has a tidy fortune. What else was Andrew up too? The only reason Charles is acting now is to save the family reputation.

I also wonders why they could not prove from his security record where he was on that night at 'pizza express'? Surely they keep a record of it.

Fergie is an absolute disgrace. Freeloading left right and centre. The queen should have handled both of them better.

All that said, I do wonder who else was involved with Epstein? Andrew is an easy fall guy. What about all the others? Trump, Clinton, etc all the people with actual power? Andrew is a distraction for them. Jail the lot!

Also I think if we knew how much £ each of the children of late Queen really had they’d be a revolution.

Onlyonmumsne · 19/10/2025 21:59

Where are these emails coming from and why are they suddenly available when they were not beforehand- especially around the time of his NewsNight interview etc?

PinkPanther57 · 19/10/2025 21:51

TaraRhu · 19/10/2025 21:30

I really don't think he will care or understand why his titles are gone. This is normal behaviour for him and the sort of people he is mixing with.
He will just see it as some sort of act of the little people.

The only thing that would get him is taking away his money. But he's slippery and so is fergie. Their daughters are now well enough off to support them anyway if they went bankrupt.

I have to say I think k the rest of the royals are getting of lightly. They all must've known all about Andrew and his lifestyle. They have 24/7 surveillance and mi5 must be all over them for their protection. Surely they should have not swept this under the rug the carpet for 20+ years?? Plus who paid for his settlement? Why couldn't he pay that himself? He has a tidy fortune. What else was Andrew up too? The only reason Charles is acting now is to save the family reputation.

I also wonders why they could not prove from his security record where he was on that night at 'pizza express'? Surely they keep a record of it.

Fergie is an absolute disgrace. Freeloading left right and centre. The queen should have handled both of them better.

All that said, I do wonder who else was involved with Epstein? Andrew is an easy fall guy. What about all the others? Trump, Clinton, etc all the people with actual power? Andrew is a distraction for them. Jail the lot!

Bea is ££ via marriage!

TaraRhu · 19/10/2025 21:30

I really don't think he will care or understand why his titles are gone. This is normal behaviour for him and the sort of people he is mixing with.
He will just see it as some sort of act of the little people.

The only thing that would get him is taking away his money. But he's slippery and so is fergie. Their daughters are now well enough off to support them anyway if they went bankrupt.

I have to say I think k the rest of the royals are getting of lightly. They all must've known all about Andrew and his lifestyle. They have 24/7 surveillance and mi5 must be all over them for their protection. Surely they should have not swept this under the rug the carpet for 20+ years?? Plus who paid for his settlement? Why couldn't he pay that himself? He has a tidy fortune. What else was Andrew up too? The only reason Charles is acting now is to save the family reputation.

I also wonders why they could not prove from his security record where he was on that night at 'pizza express'? Surely they keep a record of it.

Fergie is an absolute disgrace. Freeloading left right and centre. The queen should have handled both of them better.

All that said, I do wonder who else was involved with Epstein? Andrew is an easy fall guy. What about all the others? Trump, Clinton, etc all the people with actual power? Andrew is a distraction for them. Jail the lot!

cupfinalchaos · 19/10/2025 21:21

ShenandoahRiver · 16/10/2025 20:00

It doesn't appear to be @PinkPanther57
Beatrice was in attendance at the opening of the Mayfair branch of First Abu Dhabi Bank in August. Grinning away. She knows exactly where the money is and is determined to keep her nose in the trough.

🤣🤣

ShenandoahRiver · 19/10/2025 21:19

They are princesses because they were the daughters of the son of a reigning monarch when they were born.
The children of the daughter of a reigning monarch had no such entitlement.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 19/10/2025 21:04

Why are they even Princesses? They aren't the children of a reigning monarch nor directly in line like William and Harry.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 19/10/2025 16:34

JudgeJ · 17/10/2025 23:56

But what's the real evidence that it's true? Because someone claims something happened doesn't make it true, after her death there seems to be a queue of people ready to milk the sad situation.

Well he's now a proven liar at least.

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 16:17

TabithaMerlot · 19/10/2025 15:02

Am I right to assume his bodyguards would never ever tell the truth though, if it meant betraying what Andrew has said?

We have no idea about how they are integrated into the whole rotten edifice that is hereditary privilege. If you were playing charades and you had to somehow convey "transparency" then probably the last thing you'd mime is wearing a crown.

XWKD · 19/10/2025 15:34

He needs to become the Andrew formerly known as Prince.

TabithaMerlot · 19/10/2025 15:02

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 14:57

Back in 2019, when he was pulling the "Pizza Express" defence, I suggested that his bodyguard would know the truth.

Am I right to assume his bodyguards would never ever tell the truth though, if it meant betraying what Andrew has said?

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SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 14:57

TabithaMerlot · 19/10/2025 14:53

Good.
This needs a full investigation.

Back in 2019, when he was pulling the "Pizza Express" defence, I suggested that his bodyguard would know the truth.

TabithaMerlot · 19/10/2025 14:53

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 12:29

It keeps getting worse ...

Worth reminding people that his close protection officers either know where he has been at all times or (possibly even worse) could be asked to testify about the times he wasn't in their care ....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3970mxwz9vo

Good.
This needs a full investigation.

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SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 12:29

It keeps getting worse ...

Worth reminding people that his close protection officers either know where he has been at all times or (possibly even worse) could be asked to testify about the times he wasn't in their care ....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3970mxwz9vo

A close-up of Prince Andrew, who is outside in front of some railings - he is wearing a dark blue suit jacket and a white shirt which can just be seen and is looking at the camera with a neutral expression

Met Police to look into claims Prince Andrew sought information on accuser

Media reports say he asked his police protection to find out personal details about Virginia Giuffre.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3970mxwz9vo

ColinOfficeTrolley · 19/10/2025 06:55

To mention his daughters whilst having the intention of molesting raping that poor sex trafficked girl

Apologies, but just had to fix that

HollyGolightly4 · 19/10/2025 06:55

JudgeJ · 17/10/2025 23:56

But what's the real evidence that it's true? Because someone claims something happened doesn't make it true, after her death there seems to be a queue of people ready to milk the sad situation.

Are you a man?

ColinOfficeTrolley · 19/10/2025 06:48

PinkPanther57 · 16/10/2025 19:37

I thought he didn’t know or remember, Virginia?

Fancy paying someone you 'can't remember' millions and millions of £££ to make everything disappear.

absolute cretin.

The whole royal family needs to be gone. It's a fucking pathetic, antiquated concept that serves absolutely no purpose to the people of this country.

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