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TabithaMerlot · 16/10/2025 09:42

I just think everyone should know about these details, published yesterday:

‘Prince Andrew believed having sex with me was his birthright’: Virginia Giuffre on her abuse at the hands of Epstein, Maxwell and the king’s brother www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/15/prince-andrew-virginia-giuffre-abuse-epstein-maxwell?CMP=share_btn_url

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DelectableMe · 21/10/2025 10:17

SerendipityJane · 21/10/2025 10:15

Maybe he doesn't value women that much ?

He just thinks they're "blood princesses" so will sail through life on a sea of wealth and privilege.

SerendipityJane · 21/10/2025 10:16

Andrew was on a taxpayer funded engagement for the NSPCC then he got on the Lolita Express and went to Epstein's Island?

You find yourself wondering at his motives ?

SerendipityJane · 21/10/2025 10:15

familychristmas · 21/10/2025 09:23

And why did he put them at risk in that way. Quite terrifying really.

Maybe he doesn't value women that much ?

DelectableMe · 21/10/2025 10:13

Yes, @PinkPanther57 - there needs to be transparent accountability for all of them. Restrict titles and privilege to a few.
I find it extraordinary (among other things) that Sarah Ferguson was actually filmed offering access to Andrew for £500k, and nothing happened.

PinkPanther57 · 21/10/2025 10:03

familychristmas · 21/10/2025 09:23

And why did he put them at risk in that way. Quite terrifying really.

I think this whole debacle has held up a mirror to how the Royals have unimaginably different lives. Before social media, life was much easier for them. With power & privilege comes responsibility & people expect them to increasingly earn their keep not just to pay lip service.

DelectableMe · 21/10/2025 09:25

I think what needs to be focused on here is bringing Andrew and Sarah Ferguson to justice, in some way. I know that for arrogant, lazy, entitled people, the loss of titles and access is huge. However, there is a lot of damning evidence.
Andrew was on a taxpayer funded engagement for the NSPCC then he got on the Lolita Express and went to Epstein's Island?
It's all so sordid and vile, yet he seems to be escaping proper justice, sadly.

familychristmas · 21/10/2025 09:23

PinkPanther57 · 16/10/2025 19:49

It must be so difficult for his daughters.

And why did he put them at risk in that way. Quite terrifying really.

HedwigEliza · 21/10/2025 09:23

He’s just a dirty old man. There’s plenty of them around. Not a criminal, just a very unpleasant character. So those hoping to see him imprisoned will be disappointed. Being morally bankrupt isn’t a crime.

SerendipityJane · 21/10/2025 09:21

modernise the Monarchy

Now there's an oxymoron if ever there was.

DelectableMe · 21/10/2025 09:19

RainbowBagels · 21/10/2025 09:17

If he really wanted to modernise the Monarchy in any way, as he says he does, he'd change it for Louis. Why do we need to add to the random Prince/ princesses? They can all be Lords/ Ladies if they are desperate for titles. I dont think he has any intention of reforming the Monarchy in any meaningful way or any way that doesnt involve them doing less work for more or the same money/ houses/staff etc.

You have no idea what his intentions are.

RainbowBagels · 21/10/2025 09:17

SixSeven · 19/10/2025 23:41

I wonder if William will change that for Charlotte. In fact it’d be better if Charles did it now.

If he really wanted to modernise the Monarchy in any way, as he says he does, he'd change it for Louis. Why do we need to add to the random Prince/ princesses? They can all be Lords/ Ladies if they are desperate for titles. I dont think he has any intention of reforming the Monarchy in any meaningful way or any way that doesnt involve them doing less work for more or the same money/ houses/staff etc.

DelectableMe · 20/10/2025 22:35

His name is the only one I've seen mentioned. VG didn't name the man who choked her, unfortunately. He was some vile person and I hope he does get named..
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SixSeven · 20/10/2025 22:25

bakebeans · 20/10/2025 22:22

Preparing to be flamed but I would be grateful if someone could explain as I’m a little confused to be honest.
It seems to be that the media is going after the royals and prince andrew.
There is no actual proof. A picture. A book that the person who wrote this cannot be questioned about. Just to add, I’m also not saying she is lying.
Her ‘evidence’ was dismissed by the prosecution against Gillaine Maxwell. Why?
There was no admission from the rioyal family but a payment was made. Still no admission.
Sarah Ferguson has also been now brought into things
I’m struggling to understand however why Donald Trump and other famous people who were greatly associated with Epstein and were seen in pictures also as to why they are they being not being persecuted.
May be I’ve missed something

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I’ve wondered this too, does anyone know if Virginias book also names the other rich and famous men involved?

It’s getting beyond weird that Andrew is the only one

bakebeans · 20/10/2025 22:22

Preparing to be flamed but I would be grateful if someone could explain as I’m a little confused to be honest.
It seems to be that the media is going after the royals and prince andrew.
There is no actual proof. A picture. A book that the person who wrote this cannot be questioned about. Just to add, I’m also not saying she is lying.
Her ‘evidence’ was dismissed by the prosecution against Gillaine Maxwell. Why?
There was no admission from the rioyal family but a payment was made. Still no admission.
Sarah Ferguson has also been now brought into things
I’m struggling to understand however why Donald Trump and other famous people who were greatly associated with Epstein and were seen in pictures also as to why they are they being not being persecuted.
May be I’ve missed something

FluentOP · 20/10/2025 20:03

TabithaMerlot · 20/10/2025 19:33

On his payroll?
And when you say 'too', who else was?
OMG, what the hell was Epstein paying them for??
This is getting darker and darker.

It was reported that he gave them large money gifts. Grifter Fergie took them to his island and also took them to visit him to celebrate his leaving prison. The files from when Andrew was trade envoy need to be opened and scrutinised.

AInightingale · 20/10/2025 19:45

NewGirlInTown · 20/10/2025 19:34

I find it incredible that Prince Andrew is the only “friend of Epstein” who has been outed in this way. When you think of all those flights to the island….

Yes, that is baffling me too. Who else is discussed in this book? Andrew Windsor is a vile creature if the accusations are true, but what of the others in Epstein's circle? The book seems to have been commissioned and written as a massive act of deflection. Something about this is rotten to the core, and I don't believe for one minute in Epstein's 'suicide'. I expect we'll have to wait until after the deaths of some of the other high-profile predators for the truth to fully emerge.

NewGirlInTown · 20/10/2025 19:34

I find it incredible that Prince Andrew is the only “friend of Epstein” who has been outed in this way. When you think of all those flights to the island….

TabithaMerlot · 20/10/2025 19:33

FluentOP · 20/10/2025 19:06

Apparently, they were on Epstein’s payroll too.

On his payroll?
And when you say 'too', who else was?
OMG, what the hell was Epstein paying them for??
This is getting darker and darker.

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FluentOP · 20/10/2025 19:06

PinkPanther57 · 16/10/2025 19:49

It must be so difficult for his daughters.

Apparently, they were on Epstein’s payroll too.

Friendlygingercat · 20/10/2025 03:49

There us a sense of hierarchy in the RF around titles. Andrew was the golden child. He was made a Duke and yet Edward was only (until recently) an Earl. He seemed a bit overlooked as the youngest. For sure Edward made a few boobs when he was younger with that Royal Knockout and stalking William with his media company. However by and large he and his family have set a decent example and kept their heads down. He is now D of Edinburgh an honour I feel he has deserved.

mathanxiety · 20/10/2025 02:52

FluentOP · 18/10/2025 12:26

Well it wasn’t really taken away from him: he just said that he will no longer use the titles. He has tried to make himself look “honourable “ by saying that he will no longer use them as though he has made that decision . He needs to be held accountable for being part of the whole Epstein scandal. He is still denying it even though he emailed Epstein the day after the Virginia photograph appeared in the newspapers and instead of saying to Epstein “who is that in the photo, I have never met that girl”, instead he said “we are in this together “ and “we will play again soon”. He is a vile excuse for a human being. His family have been covering his tracks including his mother.

His statement read to me like the words of a man desperate to save face, who was given 'an offer he couldn't refuse' by people holding most of the strings.

ClareBlue · 20/10/2025 00:21

XWKD · 19/10/2025 15:34

He needs to become the Andrew formerly known as Prince.

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ClareBlue · 20/10/2025 00:21

This is great😂
Can we get it viral. I'm going to refer to him this way in every post and every comment on Ticktock and Insta. If it gets established we heard it here first.

ClareBlue · 20/10/2025 00:15

Didn't he say in the interview that his main fault was he was 'too honourable' as the reason for spending 4 days in the pedophile, child trafficker's house. He has even qualified not using his titles as an honourable and selfless act to support his sense of public duty and to prevent distraction of the dedicated work of the king. He's a vile delusional human who doesn't know what truth or honour are. Doesn't say much about the others if he was the favourite child.

ARichtGoodDram · 19/10/2025 23:52

I wonder if William will change that for Charlotte. In fact it’d be better if Charles did it now.

I'm not sure if they will. I would have expected, if the intention was to level up the sexism of it, that when the LP's were issued for the Cambridge children prior to George's birth they would have done it then.

It was a prime time to re-write them going forward when neither William or Harry had children yet. But they didn't. In the changing "The eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales..." to "All children of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales" they literally only changed it for the then future Cambridge children.

They were changing it because if George had been a girl she'd have been a future Queen but entitled to a lesser title than a younger brother. Yet the change didn't even future proof it for that possibility - she'd have been HRH Princess, she'd have been future Queen, but her own future children still wouldn't have been automatically entitled to titles.

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