Prince Andrew

yep, they all have power and money to carry on covering their crimes, Andrew just acted like he did, and so when his mother died, there was nothing left to hide behind. He needs to start confessing and detailing what he saw and who he saw, he needs to do the right thing for once.

It isn't just the royals, it is the whole of aristocracy in this country. All these duchies that are exempt from corporation and inheritance tax, because in the depths of history, an ancestor of theirs killed a lot of people. It's madness.

Andrew is increasingly looking like the fall guy (I'm not saying he isn't guilty of appalling crimes) for Clinton, Trump, Mitchell, Gates.

Andrew Windsor was not the only one - the media here and overseas seem very quiet on any other complicit big names.....

I hope VG posthumously publishes a book of photos and names of all the perpetrators.

I’d add that we are still very much in the dark re Windsor finances .
‘Convention’ prevents mps from discussing the Windsors - even Andrew !

This will stop now I hope .
Did any of us know that Andrew was paying a peppercorn rent? The Windsors have known about Epstein and Andrew for over a decade by NOW they are doing something ( or pretending to )

The crown estate owns Royal lodge
( Andrew’s house) in other words- we do. But we didn’t know anything about his preferential treatment
Do we know how much Edward pays for his 40 million mansion -also owned by us. And how much do William and Kate pay - they have moved every couple of years.

There is no transparency. We are a laughing stock . Those remaining European countries who have a figurehead monarch have their finances combed over in detail and they are answerable and subservient to parliament .

@Tiredofbullsit

‘Slimmed down’ was PR - it worked on you for example- implying a cost cutting.

It was nothing of the sort. We are paying more than ever for the Windsors . More money being paid into fewer pockets.

William has made it clear he’ll do as little as he likes but not only will he take as much money from us as he can get away with, he has already put a stop to the small amount of financial transparency that Charles allowed.

We are being royally ripped off

The personnel may have been cut but not their costs. They are costing more despite doing less and despite Charles and William being muliti millionnaires.
I would also say there is no need for more than the monarch and heir ( and spouses) to be ' working Royals'.

How much more do you want it slimmed down?

Charles made that known years ago. Since then Prince Philip and the Queen have died, Harry and Meghan have jumped ship and Andrew has been disgraced.

That’s quite a bit of ‘slimming down’!

Oh god no, she’s always been loathsome and grasping!

I agree. Nose in trough.

Honestly the old ‘ he’ll modernise when he’s king’ is so blatantly a lie - how stupid do you have to be to fall for that

Weren’t we told Charles would ‘slim down’ the royals . Yet they are costing us millions more a year . Half a billion !
Now that line has been totally dropped and it’s ’William will modernise’ except even they aren’t saying he’ll take less money from us - they are saying he’ll hide in his 5th tax payer funded home and be an instagram king and call it ‘modern’
He’s not modern enough to reveal his Duchy takings is he though? Charles did that to some degree . William closed the books .

William is even worse than Charles .

And we do know his intentions because we can see his past actions .William was driving Andrew around 5 years ago when the Epstein scandal was fresh ( to us that is -the Windsors knew all about it years a before we did )
Why did he repeatedly get photographed with Andrew in the front seat ? Because William was up to his neck in the repeated efforts to rehabilitate Andrew. William wants the money and privilege so he’ll help prop up this degenerate institution. He’d have to start paying his tax pro prop if the British people finally call a halt to this whole con !

William is now trying to claim positive press for himself - it’s deeply cynical and cold
Also not a word for the victims

Neither does anyone who says ' Oh hell modernise the Monarchy' or ' He'll be a great King'. There is more evidence of his intention to do nothing that doesnt enrich himself more for less value fir us than there is of either of the opposite imo. Hes the same as all of them.

There is no way the King would have forced his brother to give up his titles if he didn't know Andrew was guilty. He needs to do the honourable thing and tell the police everything he knows, names and dates. Rather than this pretence of innocence. The book Entitled gives details of Andrew incredibly dodgy dealings of all varieties and yet the RF/PA have made no attempt to sue suggesting it's all true. He is a bad person.

Totally agree.

“Not a criminal “ ?? Getting his tax payer funded protection officer to look into her private files and trying to discredit her is ILLEGAL. His files from when he was trade envoy need to be made available. They are currently closed. The royal family is excempt from Freedom of Information requests. There is too much secrecy around the finances of the royal family and this should change. Where did the £12 million come from and what did the royal family know but cover up ??

You can’t present this as though it’s fact - it’s not, and you don’t know this to be true. You weren’t there, and you’re not the person in question.

She wasn't in a position to refuse him. There's a legal word for that

Thankfully we don’t have courts and a justice system based on your personal feelings and your dislike of the person in question. You need evidence, and none will be forthcoming, so you’re on a hiding to nothing.

He’s not a rapist. She went on record specifying the amount she was paid, and that he didn’t rape her. The father she accuses of actually committing such criminal acts is suffering no social censure and giving interviews - interesting, no?

"Not a criminal" - not convicted in court, but in all likelihood he IS a criminal, a rapist.

Royal protection is quite cushy .... I think that's all you really need to know.

Would you risk a cushy spot for rocking the boat ? Especially when you were explicitly told before starting that "the most important part of the job is discretion" (nudge-nudge).

The quid pro quo should be you should stop your charge getting into "scapes".

This does raise more questions that I am sure could prove awkward if they were ever allowed to be asked:

1. Did the protection officers know what Andy was up to ? In which case how does aiding and abetting a criminal offence square with their duty as police officers first ?

2. Did the protection officers not know anything about Andys hobbies ? In which case how would they spot a 40-tonne HGV heading straight for him, such is the poorness of their vision ?

I suspect this may be why the Met has dived in ....

Do you think that perhaps these protection officers were bullied and threatened by Arsehole Andrew ? Threatens with their jobs if they blabbed ?

Thank you for the correction and clarification 👍

Correction.

I find myself wondering at his motives. You do not.

I have never "wondered at his motives".
I have no idea where you got that unsubstantiated notion from.
Quote me correctly or not at all.