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DS hates my job

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DarkAutumnMornings · 15/10/2025 07:27

I run a pub, it’s a full-time job. We live above the pub, so I appreciate it’s difficult to escape from. DP (father of our 2 kids) works outside the pub 8-4 Mon-Fri. We have a toddler and a 7 year old.

I’m with our kids from 5/6am till school run every week day. I do 100% of school runs (breakfast club twice a week).

I attend 100% of school events.

I do school pick up 99% of the time. Occasionally another Mum will pick up DS7 and drop him home for me if I’m busy.

DS7 goes to three clubs a week, I take him to all of those most of the time, again sometimes some shared lifts.

I do 5 out of 7 bedtimes on a normal week, sometimes only 4. Once toddler is in bed, I spend an hour and a half to 2 hours with DS7. Sometimes this time can be interrupted if I need to check or help out on something.

Weekends are variable, but we usually have every other weekend free to go out somewhere. No parties are missed.

I told DS7 last night I had to work an extra evening this week so DP would put him to bed 3 times this week. DP bedtimes are quick and functional. Mine are long winded (I know, but DS and I enjoy it).

DS7 was so upset with this news, he said I’m always working, he hates our house, he hates the pub. This isn’t the first time. I explained if I didn’t do this I’d have to have another job and that might stop me from doing school stuff etc. He doesn’t see the Mums that aren’t on the school run, he’s 7, he thinks everyone’s house is like Bluey’s!

I thought I had a good balance, he doesn’t.

YABU - DS7 is right, this lifestyle is rubbish
YANBU - you have lots of time with your kids, DS doesn’t understand adult life.

OP posts:
ThatSpryShaker · 15/10/2025 14:35

notacooldad · 15/10/2025 14:02

You then went on to tell me I want your rage. I get that sort of interaction might be normal for you as a "dad" or whatever, but that kind of machismo is generally frowned upon in more civilised society. You been drinking in this pub of the OP's?
Seriously, is English not your first language and you don't get figures of speech and nuances?

Ah, bless, Do you always take things literal and assume things? Do you assume poster names reflect real life. Maybe you do and then you would realise that indeed, im 'not a cool dad', in fact im not a dad at all!

And no, I haven't been drinking. I've not had a drink since my birthday last March.
Your posts are now amusing me but im afraid it's hijacking the Ops post which is not on.

No I'm just a woman who recognises toxic masculinity and unchecked anger when she sees it. That sort of thing gets us killed, see, I as soon as we see it in a man 🚩🚩🚩🚩.

Good luck with your journey. Please don't turn your "rage" on anyone along the way. Even if youve now just turned into a woman or whatever. Still goes..keep that rage in.

DarkAutumnMornings · 15/10/2025 14:19

notacooldad · 15/10/2025 14:02

You then went on to tell me I want your rage. I get that sort of interaction might be normal for you as a "dad" or whatever, but that kind of machismo is generally frowned upon in more civilised society. You been drinking in this pub of the OP's?
Seriously, is English not your first language and you don't get figures of speech and nuances?

Ah, bless, Do you always take things literal and assume things? Do you assume poster names reflect real life. Maybe you do and then you would realise that indeed, im 'not a cool dad', in fact im not a dad at all!

And no, I haven't been drinking. I've not had a drink since my birthday last March.
Your posts are now amusing me but im afraid it's hijacking the Ops post which is not on.

thanks @notacooldad its fine 😂 it reminds me that I consider myself to have had a lovely childhood, I think I’m pretty well adjusted and my parents achieved this despite not living in the town where the rest of my friends lived, not letting me have the dog I wanted, and probably not giving in to many other demands I made.

It also reminds me of my Mum’s career advice (in the 90s!) that I could be a teacher or a secretary! We all take our own path in life…

OP posts:
notacooldad · 15/10/2025 14:07

I knew this really, but sometimes when Mum guilt hits we need reminding!
I remember mum guilt all to well but im past that now my children are adults. I remember stressing if in case I had to work Christmas day, thankfully I didnt and did NYE instead but the stress leading up to the rotas going out was real! Dh used to tell me not to worry and we would have Christmas either before I went to work or when I came back but thankfully I didnt do a Christmas shift until the youngest was 19.

Dont forget Op, you are providing your child with a home, you show up to events, you do the school run, you are doing great!
Keep on ,keeping on!

Sharptonguedwoman · 15/10/2025 14:04

ThatSpryShaker · 15/10/2025 13:57

I'd take it from your DD who would be better placed to speak of the pros and cons.

We have talked about it very frequently. She's no fool and realises it was the best option in the circumstances. Still misses the place we lived in and appreciates what my job enabled. No regrets.

notacooldad · 15/10/2025 14:02

You then went on to tell me I want your rage. I get that sort of interaction might be normal for you as a "dad" or whatever, but that kind of machismo is generally frowned upon in more civilised society. You been drinking in this pub of the OP's?
Seriously, is English not your first language and you don't get figures of speech and nuances?

Ah, bless, Do you always take things literal and assume things? Do you assume poster names reflect real life. Maybe you do and then you would realise that indeed, im 'not a cool dad', in fact im not a dad at all!

And no, I haven't been drinking. I've not had a drink since my birthday last March.
Your posts are now amusing me but im afraid it's hijacking the Ops post which is not on.

FinallyHere · 15/10/2025 14:01

Children are inherently selfish. Of course he hates anything that has a claim on your time as he assumes that he would otherwise get that time himself.

you can’t run your life according to a seven year ‘s view of the world. You are doing a great job, continue to parent not pander.

Sharptonguedwoman · 15/10/2025 13:58

PuppiesProzacProsecco · 15/10/2025 13:39

I've done 9-5 in an office with zero flexibility, 24 hour shifts (sleeping on site in the middle) twice a week and exclusively work from home across my career and both my kids (26 and 12) have complained about all of them. Kids are, by definition, selfish, manipulative little shits who think the world revolves around them. This is especially true for their mums - it's our job to introduce reality.

Don't beat yourself up OP - sounds like you're doing a great job. Just wait till they're both tweens/teens: DS12 would barely notice if I buggered off to Australia for a month these days (as long as food/snacks/clean tracksuits magically appeared).

Thank you!

ThatSpryShaker · 15/10/2025 13:57

Sharptonguedwoman · 15/10/2025 13:55

My DD lived in my workplace. We were fine. Pros/cons, always but 7 is too young to get the nuance.

I'd take it from your DD who would be better placed to speak of the pros and cons.

Needlenardlenoo · 15/10/2025 13:55

Get him a copy of Richard Scarry's What Do People Do All Day? Might open a good conversation.

Sharptonguedwoman · 15/10/2025 13:55

ThatSpryShaker · 15/10/2025 08:22

Yes but they go out and come home. They don't bring patients home with them, nor does everyone have to make the flight. He lives in his mum's workplace.

My DD lived in my workplace. We were fine. Pros/cons, always but 7 is too young to get the nuance.

Ladybugheart · 15/10/2025 13:52

I don't think either of you are unreasonable but I have managed a pub and lived above it and understand how much it is a lifestyle and not a job. There is little true downtime and I expect that irs probably a difficult life for a child sometimes. I don't say that to make you feel bad or anything, just that from my experience it really is all consuming very often.

DarkAutumnMornings · 15/10/2025 13:50

Thank you! I’m reassured that 7 year olds are hard to please and that a lot of important jobs in our communities would never get done if we bowed to their every demand 😉 I knew this really, but sometimes when Mum guilt hits we need reminding!

FWIW, I had an office-based job before the pub and before children. I worked way over my hours because it was very focused on the final product and you could always do more. If I was still doing that now I’d have deadlines to meet, regardless of bedtimes, and lots of travelling abroad. Nothing is perfect.

OP posts:
ThatSpryShaker · 15/10/2025 13:47

notacooldad · 15/10/2025 13:42

@@ThatSpryShaker
I advise that you do not bite and I can assure you "not a cool dad", that you should also keep your rage to yourself. Better still, get some help for it.*

😆 🤣 😂
What on earth are you going on about?

Are you a bit dim and not realise 'bite' is a figure of speech meaning that someone will respond to a comment that should be ignored.
I don't go round snapping at people!! 😆
That is the funniest, maddest reply ive ever had!

You then went on to tell me I want your rage. I get that sort of interaction might be normal for you as a "dad" or whatever, but that kind of machismo is generally frowned upon in more civilised society. You been drinking in this pub of the OP's?

ThatSpryShaker · 15/10/2025 13:45

mbosnz · 15/10/2025 13:38

"I advise that you do not bite and I can assure you "not a cool dad", that you should also keep your rage to yourself. Better still, get some help for it."

Wow, you are really spoiling for a fight, aren't you?

I'd say the person who told me I want rage is the one wanting a fight.

Minnie798 · 15/10/2025 13:43

notacooldad · 15/10/2025 13:23

*ThatSpryShaker.

To be honest pub life doesn't seem so bad!*
To you
Indeed.

Ds2 didnt like my job when I worked with older people when he was 5.
Well tough to be honest.

Yes exactly.
Can you imagine changing your job/ career based on the whims of a child.
Dont like me working Monday to Friday 9-5. No bother , I'll do shift work. Now you don't like the shift work, I'll change again.
Don't like me being a teacher, fine I'll just pop back to university and do a different degree.
You wish you had a parent who was a train driver? No worries, I'll go and do that. It's laughable really.

notacooldad · 15/10/2025 13:42

@@ThatSpryShaker
I advise that you do not bite and I can assure you "not a cool dad", that you should also keep your rage to yourself. Better still, get some help for it.*

😆 🤣 😂
What on earth are you going on about?

Are you a bit dim and not realise 'bite' is a figure of speech meaning that someone will respond to a comment that should be ignored.
I don't go round snapping at people!! 😆
That is the funniest, maddest reply ive ever had!

PuppiesProzacProsecco · 15/10/2025 13:39

I've done 9-5 in an office with zero flexibility, 24 hour shifts (sleeping on site in the middle) twice a week and exclusively work from home across my career and both my kids (26 and 12) have complained about all of them. Kids are, by definition, selfish, manipulative little shits who think the world revolves around them. This is especially true for their mums - it's our job to introduce reality.

Don't beat yourself up OP - sounds like you're doing a great job. Just wait till they're both tweens/teens: DS12 would barely notice if I buggered off to Australia for a month these days (as long as food/snacks/clean tracksuits magically appeared).

mbosnz · 15/10/2025 13:38

"I advise that you do not bite and I can assure you "not a cool dad", that you should also keep your rage to yourself. Better still, get some help for it."

Wow, you are really spoiling for a fight, aren't you?

ThatSpryShaker · 15/10/2025 13:35

notacooldad · 15/10/2025 13:32

@ThatSpryShaker

Fine. If that's the attitude you want to have towards your kid's feelings about their lifestyle. Go you!

Okay dokey, I see you are being beillgerent and wanting a bit of rage I'll bite because im bored waiting for my train.

So I should have given up my job that was paying well at the time, and paying our mortgage, bills and food because ds didnt like me doing it.

Yes, of course I should have given it up, defaulted on the mortgage, let the children eat rubbish food and get the bailiffs round because my kid said he didn't like my job.

Get real!

A few weeks later he'd forgotten he had said it.
How many more idiotic posts are you going to do?

I advise that you do not bite and I can assure you "not a cool dad", that you should also keep your rage to yourself. Better still, get some help for it.

notacooldad · 15/10/2025 13:32

@ThatSpryShaker

Fine. If that's the attitude you want to have towards your kid's feelings about their lifestyle. Go you!

Okay dokey, I see you are being beillgerent and wanting a bit of rage I'll bite because im bored waiting for my train.

So I should have given up my job that was paying well at the time, and paying our mortgage, bills and food because ds didnt like me doing it.

Yes, of course I should have given it up, defaulted on the mortgage, let the children eat rubbish food and get the bailiffs round because my kid said he didn't like my job.

Get real!

A few weeks later he'd forgotten he had said it.
How many more idiotic posts are you going to do?

ThatSpryShaker · 15/10/2025 13:24

notacooldad · 15/10/2025 13:23

*ThatSpryShaker.

To be honest pub life doesn't seem so bad!*
To you
Indeed.

Ds2 didnt like my job when I worked with older people when he was 5.
Well tough to be honest.

Fine. If that's the attitude you want to have towards your kid's feelings about their lifestyle. Go you!

mbosnz · 15/10/2025 13:24

Some people hate their parents being butchers, because they're vegans, sometimes they hate their parents being teachers, because they teach at their school. Some hate their parents being royals because it means they're never out of the public spotlight.

Whatever someone does, there's always the potential for their kids to be impacted, and for their kids to hate it.

Parents do what they must to provide the best standard of living and lifestyle they can manage for their kids and themselves, according to their abilities and circumstances. Kids will get to decide for themselves what they want to do with their lives, how they want to earn a crust. They don't get, with their limited perceptions, experiences and understanding, to decide what their parents do.

notacooldad · 15/10/2025 13:23

*ThatSpryShaker.

To be honest pub life doesn't seem so bad!*
To you
Indeed.

Ds2 didnt like my job when I worked with older people when he was 5.
Well tough to be honest.

Minnie798 · 15/10/2025 13:21

thisishowloween · 15/10/2025 12:51

No child has a choice in their parents’ career or lifestyle though, so that’s just a ridiculous argument to try and make.

You're banging on as though OP is forcing her child up chimneys or being chained to the oven - when in fact he’s just living above the pub his mum owns.

The horror 🙄

I agree. Being a working parent, there is always a trade off.
I've been a shift worker in the NHS, clinical frontline role for years. That meant some Christmas days, I was working. But it also meant I could request or swap my shifts around so that I could go to sports days, Christmas concerts, coffee mornings, other school events etc. I could also do the school run 3 or more times a week.
A parent working mon- Friday 9-5 will miss school events, may not get to do the normal school run etc.
The vast majority of working parents compromise in some way.

ThatSpryShaker · 15/10/2025 13:19

notacooldad · 15/10/2025 13:18

Most people don't live above their workplace. And even when they do, it isnt the type of place where people come until 11pm to entertain themselves.

Maybe not, but what im seeing from op is parents and the child getting the best of both worlds.
Parents are working but mum is able to dioschool run and events,No long commute for mum. Ive read so many posts about mums and dads doing an hour plus each way for their work.

The children I work with have parents who come from a couple of generations that have never worked, parents who are in the police and work irregular hours dealing with horrific things, dad in the army for months at a time, dad in jail, parents who are addicts, parents who live in a different country to the child and so on.
To be honest pub life doesn't seem so bad!

To you.