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Controversial approach to Santa

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Lynsey953 · 15/10/2025 06:50

My children are 2 and 3 and I have never spoken to them about Santa. I've never said anything about him and they've never asked. We don't pay for them to see Santa and I don't allow other people to make a big deal about Santa in front of them (i.e. this present is from Santa, I would rather people say "this is from me merry Christmas").

This is how I was brought up and I have lovely memories of Christmas.

My sister in law is very upset by this and is worried that my controversial approach to Santa is going to ruin the magic for her kids. She has requested that we go to my parents house for Christmas day so that my kids don't ruin Christmas for her kids (8 and 9).

I am fine with this but I hadn't realised my approach was so controversial.

Is it? It's just what myself and my siblings always had.

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HarlanPepper · 15/10/2025 07:37

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 15/10/2025 07:35

I think your approach is a bit weird but I can't imagine anything your 2 or 3 year old says is going to spoil the magic of Christmas for their 8 or 9 year old cousins.

It's more likely to be you getting funny about other people mentioning Santa. Just chill out a bit.

Absolutely nothing in OP's posts suggests she would 'get funny' about people mentioning Santa.

I did the whole Santa thing with my two but I have friends who didn't. It's hardly weird to decide you won't tell elaborate lies to your kids. You sound like you've got issues of your own, tbh

helpfulperson · 15/10/2025 07:36

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 15/10/2025 07:30

It’s more that FC has gotten bigger and bigger, with social media and competitive parenting. I think it sends out the wrong message.

You got lots of presents because you are “good”. And vice versa.

It is more on a society level rather than individuals but the message has just never sat well with me. But I can’t change society I can just influence my own family, so I never made Christmas presents conditional on behaviour or come from an imaginary person.

I agree with this totally. There is something wrong about the idea that the amount of presents is somehow connected to you being 'good'. What the hell does 'good' mean anyway?

And every class will have a least one person who for whatever reason doesn't get much in the way of christmas presents - way to destroy their self esteem.

DrowningInSyrup · 15/10/2025 07:36

Look at it like this, you've saved them the disappointment of realising that Santa isn't real. My girl was scared of a big fat, hairy stranger coming into her room in the depths of the night. This seemed a very normal reaction to the santa myth to me.

Did you do elf on the shelf? My daughter was very disappointed we never did and I felt very guilty about that. I barred him from the house, the little twat.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 15/10/2025 07:35

I think your approach is a bit weird but I can't imagine anything your 2 or 3 year old says is going to spoil the magic of Christmas for their 8 or 9 year old cousins.

It's more likely to be you getting funny about other people mentioning Santa. Just chill out a bit.

Lynsey953 · 15/10/2025 07:35

Oaft! The judgement on some of these posts!
Thanks everyone for your opinions 🙂. Lovely to read different ways of doing things and to hear your stories!

I hope everyone has a lovely Christmas (when it eventually comes!) filled with love and laughter! ❤️

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paranoidmumdroid1 · 15/10/2025 07:35

We've never had Father Christmas, or a tooth fairy, or an Easter bunny. My eldest was upset at the concept of a stranger creeping around the house at night so we were honest from early days, but explained that other children did believe and that it would be unkind to tell them the secret. We are a fact-based maths and science family, more Brian Cox than Disney. 3 DC who know Santa isn't real. But we still do Christmas! Just Santa doesn't bring presents. He's a legendary Christmas character, much like witches and mummies at Halloween.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/10/2025 07:33

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 15/10/2025 07:30

It’s more that FC has gotten bigger and bigger, with social media and competitive parenting. I think it sends out the wrong message.

You got lots of presents because you are “good”. And vice versa.

It is more on a society level rather than individuals but the message has just never sat well with me. But I can’t change society I can just influence my own family, so I never made Christmas presents conditional on behaviour or come from an imaginary person.

Same here, I don’t personally no anyone who uses presents as ‘good’ or ‘bad’ rewards so maybe in real life it’s less common than you think. Not denying it’s everywhere on social media and does happen though.

My kids have always known presents and stockings are from us, but we said Santa delivered them to people on Christmas Eve and some people told their kids other things. Santa is a magical delivery man here.

CarlaLemarchant · 15/10/2025 07:32

Brainstorm23 · 15/10/2025 07:26

Kids aren't idiots. Mine is 6 and already knows Santa couldn't possibly be real but chooses to kind of half believe in him for the extra presents!

Kids absolutely are idiots. Your 6 year old is clearly switched on but I was really worried that I was going to have to tell my then 10 year old for myself before he started secondary as he just wasn’t asking the right questions. Thankfully he worked it out around 10. His little sister has cottoned on quicker. FC/Santa is lovely when they’re little but beyond 8, I’m happy to see the back of it. This will be the first Santa free Christmas in our house and I’m looking forward to it!

tripleginandtonic · 15/10/2025 07:32

Lynsey953 · 15/10/2025 06:59

We give them stockings from us 🙂. It's not Christmas morning, it was just Christmas lunch so from about 2:30pm onwards. Honestly, I know a lot of people who have so many different approaches to Christmas that I wouldn't say it was entirely unusual. We have presents, stockings but I just never mention Santa.

If i didn't do Father Christmas with my dc I'd just do presents I wouldn't bother with stockings at all. The whole point of stockings is that FC comes down the chimney to fill them.
It's fun the belief in FC, they will get asked what they want him to bring them once they get a bit older.

MagpiePi · 15/10/2025 07:30

I can't see it is much different to having children that don't believe in a god. They aren't going to spoil it for other children who have been indoctrinated brought up in a religious household.

The whole 'Christmas has to be magical for children' mania that grips some people, not to mention that it starts in September, is baffling to me.

thisishowloween · 15/10/2025 07:30

I was raised in the same way as you OP. I knew who FC was but in our house he was just a fun story and tradition, not something I was ever made to believe was actually real.

We still put out a mince pie, carrot and sherry. I still got stockings. I still used to try and stay awake to “see him” drop off the presents. Christmas morning was still as magical as ever.

This idea that not believing in FC somehow ruins Christmas forever is really odd.

Greggsit · 15/10/2025 07:30

Soontobe60 · 15/10/2025 07:20

Why would they ask that? Presumably they’re still getting presents?

Yes, but they will obviously be curious about why Santa brings presents to all their friends, but not to them? They are guaranteed to ask why. At a minimum, to wonder if there's the possibility of getting more!

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 15/10/2025 07:30

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/10/2025 07:24

The people who neglect/abuse their kids probably aren’t explaining stuff to their kids. And most kids won’t no someone in their class is being abused/neglected and got nothing for Christmas?

It’s more that FC has gotten bigger and bigger, with social media and competitive parenting. I think it sends out the wrong message.

You got lots of presents because you are “good”. And vice versa.

It is more on a society level rather than individuals but the message has just never sat well with me. But I can’t change society I can just influence my own family, so I never made Christmas presents conditional on behaviour or come from an imaginary person.

Lynsey953 · 15/10/2025 07:28

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/10/2025 07:27

I wasn’t asking you though? OP said she plans not to answer any questions if they ask them. That’s not being honest either

Oh! So no! I've miswritten this then. I just don't talk to them about him and it's never came up in conversation. If they ask I'll talk to them and see what they think (like I would with God). My mother in law does "look what Santa has left at my house for you" for her elder grandchildren and I would rather that my children knew it was from their grandparents but they can't absolutely be spoken to about Santa. I imagine my son will see Santa at nursery this year and if he comes home and says that I will have the xact same response as when the fire engine came out last term i.e. That's nice, what happened etc ... 🙂

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40andlovelife · 15/10/2025 07:28

Soontobe60 · 15/10/2025 07:18

Utter rubbish!

Top quality input there

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/10/2025 07:27

wineosaurusrex · 15/10/2025 07:25

If my children ask me about Santa I of course tell them that he isnt real and its just a bit of fun. Why should I lie to my child simply because some parents choose to lie to theirs? So bizarre to me. Christmas is still magical and exciting without an imaginary man crawling down the chimney! Presents, food, family - perfect. No need for lies.

I wasn’t asking you though? OP said she plans not to answer any questions if they ask them. That’s not being honest either

Brainstorm23 · 15/10/2025 07:26

Kids aren't idiots. Mine is 6 and already knows Santa couldn't possibly be real but chooses to kind of half believe in him for the extra presents!

Lynsey953 · 15/10/2025 07:25

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/10/2025 07:20

She doesn’t plan on telling them the truth, she plans on not mentioning Santa, asking others not to mention Santa, and ignore any questions about Santa. That’s why it’s weird for me! Just telling them would be different.

Oh! So no! I've miswritten this then. I just don't talk to them about him and it's never came up in conversation. If they ask I'll talk to them and see what they think (like I would with God). My mother in law does "look what Santa has left at my house for you" for her elder grandchildren and I would rather that my children knew it was from their grandparents but they can't absolutely be spoken to about Santa. I imagine my son will see Santa at nursery this year and if he comes home and says that I will have the xact same response as when the fire engine came out last term i.e. That's nice, what happened etc ... 🙂

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wineosaurusrex · 15/10/2025 07:25

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/10/2025 07:02

How will you manage it when they go to school? Are they the only kids Santa doesn’t bother with? Or are you happy for them to ruin Santa for their classmates?

If my children ask me about Santa I of course tell them that he isnt real and its just a bit of fun. Why should I lie to my child simply because some parents choose to lie to theirs? So bizarre to me. Christmas is still magical and exciting without an imaginary man crawling down the chimney! Presents, food, family - perfect. No need for lies.

Imissgoldengrahams · 15/10/2025 07:25

MittensTheKittens · 15/10/2025 07:24

Isn't the whole point of FC/Santa that it's a nice story and a bit of fun - not the most important part of Christmas.
Children know this from quite a young age that it's a story/tradition and play along with their parents at a risk they might miss out on presents.

(Also it's a money making exercise for garden centres who have the space for a grotto as it's winter and no one is buying plants?)

Our families have always done:
Stocking from Santa, presents from everyone else.

How to do manage auntie Beryl and uncle Ken turning up with presents the week before Christmas with presents if they all come from Santa?

In my house Santa presents only arrive on Christmas eve
Its everything I or my partner have got for our children.
I would never ask another family member to pretend their gifts are also from Santa

MySweetGeorgina · 15/10/2025 07:25

I was similar to OP, I moved to the U.K. when the kids were 4 and 6, and I came from a different culture, where Santa sort of exists but it is not made a big deal of, it is more about the birth of Jesus and the 3 wise men 🤷‍♀️

my husband is British but he never was big on Santa….

Welll all I can say was were social outcasts around Christmas time in the village, as everyone was all about “the magic of Christmas “ which was all about pretending Sara was real

so be careful as some people take it really really seriously and even have their 11 year olds still believe.

basically you might be making things hard for yourself

for me it was too late, and I never got my kids to believe as at first I was so confused by it, and the year after they were 5 and 7 and it was a bit late to start

FWIW I still find it all slightly baffling 😁 but lots of people feel very very strongly

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/10/2025 07:24

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 15/10/2025 07:21

Also (I should be getting ready for work but feel ill so this is a nice procrastination) how do people who go all in for Father Christmas explain how some kids get nothing?

Probably being overly emotional, but imagine being a 6 year old in a neglected /abusive household and being bombarded with messages saying FC will turn up in you’ve been good and not in you are naughty.

It just has never sat well with me, so preferred to keep it all very low key. We do stocking and presents but, despite being well off, spend a fraction compared to the amounts mentioned on here (which I know to take with a pinch of salt).

The people who neglect/abuse their kids probably aren’t explaining stuff to their kids. And most kids won’t no someone in their class is being abused/neglected and got nothing for Christmas?

Oneearringlost · 15/10/2025 07:24

@JamesWebbSpaceTelescope
"When did Father Christmas start being called Santa?"
Not the point of the thread, but I couldn't agreed with you more.... I HATE "Santa"!

MittensTheKittens · 15/10/2025 07:24

Isn't the whole point of FC/Santa that it's a nice story and a bit of fun - not the most important part of Christmas.
Children know this from quite a young age that it's a story/tradition and play along with their parents at a risk they might miss out on presents.

(Also it's a money making exercise for garden centres who have the space for a grotto as it's winter and no one is buying plants?)

Our families have always done:
Stocking from Santa, presents from everyone else.

How to do manage auntie Beryl and uncle Ken turning up with presents the week before Christmas with presents if they all come from Santa?

Soontobe60 · 15/10/2025 07:24

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/10/2025 07:20

She doesn’t plan on telling them the truth, she plans on not mentioning Santa, asking others not to mention Santa, and ignore any questions about Santa. That’s why it’s weird for me! Just telling them would be different.

Where did she say she’s asking others not to mention Santa?