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To find it exhausting being continuously grateful

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Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 00:33

Sorry this is long but I'm trying to give a full picture. I've always been a very independent person and have rarely asked for anything from my parents since leaving home at 18. I've generally had a drama free life. Got good jobs and financially on top of everything. My parents have always been the sort to try and help their kids and they offer a lot to my younger siblings, especially my younger brother who they help a lot and put themselves out there a lot for him, even though he doesn't make a lot of effort with them. They complain my 2 siblings live far away, especially my middle brother who has children and my mum gets jealous of the other grandma who looks after his kids a lot.

However, in my mid 30s 2 years ago I lost my job and my partner left me while I was pregnant, which left me in a vulnerable situation as I had a mortgaged house and lived a long way from my family. My mum invited me to move in with them (their idea) which was a lifeline and I was very grateful for. They were both really supportive with the birth and ever since and they forged a very close relationship with my child. As a baby, I did the bulk but they were always on hand if I needed a shower or someone to watch him when I interviewed for a new job or went to the gym classes twice a week (my mum encouraged me to get back to exercising). Because he was breastfed, I didn't do any overnights without him till I went back to work and rarely did anything socially without him.

I got a new job after a year and went back full time (my industry doesn't do part time). My son has been at nursery 4 days a week and 1 with my mum (her suggestion). Between the 3 of us we do pick ups and drop offs although my mum tends to do pick up as it's in my working hours and then I take over after he's had dinner and do bath, bed and any wake ups at night. I sometimes have to travel for work. It's quite common in my line of work, but I purposefully chose a new job where I work from home and travel less but there is some travel. I also go to the gym for an hour twice a week. After that, I just don't feel like I can ask for much more as that seems like a lot of help, so I rarely see my friends or do anything socially that isn't work. When I do I feel bad for asking and also for being away from my son. I don't mind but I sometimes feel a bit lonely as I don't get out much. I'll add I also contribute financially and I pay for nearly everything for my son and anything they've bought for him, they do the equvilant for the other grandchildren. Also they give my brother a lot of money towards his childcare since they feel they're doing a lot for me, even though they get help from the other grandparents.

Now my gripe is how much my mum complains to me and tells me I should be grateful and implies I should move out sometimes, but when I say I'm looking to move out she backtracks and says there's no rush and I don't have to. She's always saying how tired she is complaining how much she has to do. She doesn't work and my son is at nursery 4 days a week. But on those 4 days she does loads of exercise classes and is out and about all day, which she is totally free to do and I'm not saying she shouldn't, but it's also how much she expects from herself and the rest of us in the rest of the time; Every meal is complicated and from scratch and takes a long time. On the days she's not around I throw together really simple, quick meals and she complains to me about this, saying I should try harder and she managed it when we were kids on her own. If I try to cook when she's there, she never wants to eat what I'm making and complains I'm in the way/making a mess, so generally I stick to clearing/washing up after my child is asleep. She complains our rooms are a mess, but if I ask her to watch my son while I sort them out, she will complain about that too saying she's busy. When I travel for work the first thing I have to do when I get back is say thank you and how grateful I am, otherwise I get an earful for being rude. For example, one time my son was crying when I got home so I immediately took him upstairs to get him out of my parents hair, then my mum followed me and told me off for not saying thank you.

She's not like this with my brothers at all and will drop anything for them. To give an example I had a rare social thing in the calendar scheduled for after my son was asleep, I was dressed and ready to go, but then my brother was visiting and suddenly told us he needed a lift from the station. I got told I coudln't go out afterall since he needed a lift. I then had to listen to my brother talking about how he'd been out every day for the last month when he arrived at the house, which I found really upsetting.

A while ago I broke down to my parents and said I felt like me and my son are an inconvinience to them and said I felt very lonely and I couldn't go out much and my mum said she didn't intend to make it seem like it was an inconvinience and she's very happy to look after my son and then she didn't complain as much for a while, but recently it's started again.

I feel like they absolutely love my son, but I feel like they don't really want us in the house, but they do want us to live very close by.

I've been planning options to move out and where I don't have to rely on them as much as, as much as I really am grateful, I'm exhausted by it and having to feel like someone is doing me a favour all the time. This would involve moving further away as they live in a very expensive area and I'd need to free up income to pay for childcare. I tentatively mentioned this to my dad and then they cornered me and asked me why I felt like I needed to move out and said I can stay as long as I like.

I'm just very tired and feel isolated even with their support sometimes. I know being a mum of a young child is always very tiring, single or not, especially trying to balance work as well. But I feel like the treading on eggshells is adding to my exhaustion and mental workload.

AIBU to be fed up of telling my mum I'm grateful?

OP posts:
Mischance · 18/10/2025 21:05

I am not sure in what way they make you feel you should be thanking them.
If this is explicit, then I can't help feeling that maybe it has now become too much for them and a gentle loosening of ties is needed, retaining their involvement and relationship with you and their GC but giving them their home back.

Bunny44 · 18/10/2025 20:53

Not had time to reply as as I mentioned I have very little free time but I feel like everyone is projecting their own experiences onto my experience with whether it's sympathising or being unhelpful.

I've said this many times already but I AM grateful and say so and demonstrate it regularly. I AM doing everything I can to make things as easy as possible for my parents. More examples: I've hired for and pay for a cleaner, I've put him in a nursery they like and is walking distance on days my mum wanted, I try and minimise my work travel, I have no hobbies (save 2 hours gym which my mum wants me to do as she's scared I'll get fat) and very little social time. I don't even watch TV. My life is pretty much work and my baby, as previously PPs have said who were in the same position. I do not resent that at all. What I do resent is this feeling that I'm constantly having to feel indebted and grateful and my mum always complaining to me about something when I'm really trying my best. FWIW I very much think I will be the one looking after my parents when they're older. I think they assume that as well. Not because I'm now living with them, but because I've always the one who's made most effort and chosen to live closer and I've always done a lot for them. However would I expect them to constantly be thanking me? No I wouldn't, I would see it as my responsibility because we are family and we are that sort of family that if someone needs help we give it.

All those people saying I should "grow up" and how dare a grown woman rely on their parents just quite frankly can stick it and your island way of thinking. My parents are enabling me to continue standing on my own 2 feet as I have done since I was 18. Same as I would do for my children. I happen to be the one who needs most right now and temporarily. But again, I didn't ask for it. They invited me and suggested it and told me to think of this as my home and everything we've done has been their suggestion.

@Mischance I do not continue to live with them because it's cheaper - it's because of logistical reasons. I cannot do my job without my child being able to at least stay overnight with another adult.

Those saying get another job. I lost my job when I was 8 months pregnant and it took my 60 interviews/8 months to find a new one so it obviously isn't that simple, not one that covers the bills anyway. At one point my parents suggested I took a job where I would be away most of the week every week but I didn't want to do that.

Also I already pay a mortgage, council tax, bills on my own home, plus nursery 4 days a week, plus a cleaner for my parents home, shopping + £500 extra per month as a general contribution to my parents. I also organise and pay for all our family holidays (this is something I did before my child and continue to do). They do a lot and I am in no way saying that contribution covers their efforts, but I'm certainly not sponging off them and not contributing.

@wearedreamingofasummerholiday it's not a threat to move abroad, to be honest it's deep down what I want to do but I don't want to upset them at the same time and I love the bond my son has with them. I used to live abroad and I'm fluent in several other languages. I know this particular country I want to go to I could get by easily financially, so I could also afford the sort of wrap around care I need without it being miserable. I am considering near them but I'd have to use all my savings and have a sizeable mortgage to live nearby and so I'd still depend on them therefore and I don't like the feeling of being so dependent.

OP posts:
Poetnojo · 18/10/2025 09:57

Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 13:02

I do say thank you but imagine it's like constantly feeling like everything is a favour. Even going to work.

That's because it is! An unbelievably massive favour!
Just move out, do it all yourself, problem solved.

wearedreamingofasummerholiday · 17/10/2025 18:40

I just want to say I resonate hard with your post. My ex-DH walked out on me and our twins who were a few months old. I was in a fortunate enough position that I could buy another property when the divorce finalised however I have relied on my parents for wraparound care (around preschool hours) and as a result I feel like I constantly have to be “grateful”. This is despite me paying my Mum the equivalent of what she was earning (low pay PT job) before she stepped in. This was so I could return to work and keep a roof over mine and my children’s heads so my life is basically children-work-children-bedtime and repeat.

I feel like I am answerable to them for a lot of my choices in life and lines have certainly become blurred. I can’t imagine how hard it must be to live with them too. If you can, move out and give yourself some space and hopefully you will feel more independent x

Livpool · 17/10/2025 18:37

Mischance · 17/10/2025 13:04

Honestly this whole thread is bonkers!

You are a grown adult - indeed a parent - and you choose to live with your parents in THEIR home because it makes life cheaper and easier for you. And you have done this for a long time.

But now you are carping about it. Count your blessings!

If you don't like it then set up as an independent adult, pay rent/mortgage, pay council tax, pay child carers, pay babysitters, do all the housework ........ oh, and maybe visit your parents now and again and ask what YOU can do for them.

I agree with this!

OP wants parents support with her child but then doesn’t feel like she should have to keep thanking them. Then it seems horrible to be a bit like “fine, I will move out and go to another country”. Like a threat to keep them off her case

Mischance · 17/10/2025 13:04

Honestly this whole thread is bonkers!

You are a grown adult - indeed a parent - and you choose to live with your parents in THEIR home because it makes life cheaper and easier for you. And you have done this for a long time.

But now you are carping about it. Count your blessings!

If you don't like it then set up as an independent adult, pay rent/mortgage, pay council tax, pay child carers, pay babysitters, do all the housework ........ oh, and maybe visit your parents now and again and ask what YOU can do for them.

Ormally · 17/10/2025 11:07

Your Mum will always be your Mum, but from her perspective you wear the daughter hat, and she has other sons too, who she wants to be involved with.

It becomes a little bit more intricate when you have got the 'Mum status' too. Most people love the baby stage, but as grandparents get older, it becomes more evident that the toddler stage is quite a contrast, quickly changing, and that it's much more full on for them than they expected. It does get more demanding, for you, to balance work at that point, and then things change again through primary school (I recall looking back at the nursery years with incredulity, which were open until later in the afternoon to fit with work, and arranged summer holidays of about 2 weeks, not 6, and not realising how good I had had it).

I wouldn't try to move out 'reactively' at the moment, but I would make as much effort as you can to connect and make friends with other parents with children of your age and a bit older (primary school). Learn, learn, learn from what they found out, such as choices of a school based around some wrap-around care, or childminders who might be prepared to pick up from school and sort out a couple of hours' care (again - no provision that served the primary school I chose at all, although with hindsight this would have been a key reason for which one to go for, and more experienced parents did that). This might also show you good places you could live while that will be your & your DS's situation, and this could be a great help regarding work and a bit of time for you, even though it isn't immediate.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 17/10/2025 10:45

seanconneryseyebrow · 17/10/2025 10:17

You’ve got into the same rut I did with mine where I started feeling like I had to run things by them, check what they thought. Even when I left it was still happening. It’s remarkable how quickly a dynamic can set in. So when you leave - and you really should in my view - make sure there is little discussion. Start as you mean to go on. Tell them limited information. And just go, and when they visit be very boundaried. Habits will have formed that you need to break. For your self esteem and the sake of your relationship. Decide what YOU want for you and your son, don’t rely on anyone (I do know that’s hard) irrelevant of them and their wishes. Thank them for what they’ve done for you and move on.

you will have struggles (I did) but honestly having my own space and independence was worth its wait in gold. I was having serious mental health problems and the infantilising at mums was making me sooo much worse. I was saving myself as well as my relationship with them. Sounds dramatic but it was true

This.
I'm quoting it because I don't want you to miss it, OP.
Your DM is struggling with having another adult in her space (in her kitchen, cooking "the wrong" food, mess that's not under her control).
And you have lost your own space altogether, and you are losing the battle to save your autonomy.
You are deferring to your DM more and more, because you are on her territory, you really need to move out.
Yes it will be a huge wrench for all of you, but the sooner you rip that plaster off, the sooner you can re-establish your own little household.
And your ds needs to adjust to the new normal. The longer you stay at your parents, the harder it will be on him when you finally move. Better to do it while he's still so young and everything is new.

Pinkroom · 17/10/2025 10:35

I know exactly what you mean. My mum helped me out a lot with childcare when my son was young, I was a single parent and worked night shifts so he stayed there a lot. I was so grateful and she absolutely loved having him. But 12 years on I cant disagree with her on anything otherwise its 'your do ungrateful after everything ive done for you' bla bla bla. Even if its completely unrelated. Its exhausting. Shes the same with anything, to the point where I wouldn't even let her pay for anything for me when we go out now because I know it will be used in future.
I think your only option is to move out when you can and create some distance. I sympathise.

seanconneryseyebrow · 17/10/2025 10:17

You’ve got into the same rut I did with mine where I started feeling like I had to run things by them, check what they thought. Even when I left it was still happening. It’s remarkable how quickly a dynamic can set in. So when you leave - and you really should in my view - make sure there is little discussion. Start as you mean to go on. Tell them limited information. And just go, and when they visit be very boundaried. Habits will have formed that you need to break. For your self esteem and the sake of your relationship. Decide what YOU want for you and your son, don’t rely on anyone (I do know that’s hard) irrelevant of them and their wishes. Thank them for what they’ve done for you and move on.

you will have struggles (I did) but honestly having my own space and independence was worth its wait in gold. I was having serious mental health problems and the infantilising at mums was making me sooo much worse. I was saving myself as well as my relationship with them. Sounds dramatic but it was true

zingally · 17/10/2025 09:58

They want you to move out.

They did you a massive favour in the early days, but that time has passed now. You're pushing 40 and still "at home". Your parents wouldn't have expected to still be major caregivers for a toddler when their other children are well into their 30s. Expecting your parents to facilitate your twice weekly gym outings, and watching the child while you "tidy a room" are unreasonable requests.

Yes, it'll be hard to move out, and sacrifices as a single parent are required. Including finding a job in a sector more conducive to parenting.

thisishowloween · 17/10/2025 09:40

Cucy · 16/10/2025 18:39

To address the point about moving out, I want to move out but my parents give me mixed messages there too.

They’re not giving you mixed messages.

They are telling you they want you to move because they are exhausted and want their space back but they’re not kicking you out on the street.

They have to backtrack because by your own admission you cry and ask if you’re an inconvenience or threaten to move away, even to a different country.

You need to move out.
Surely you can find somewhere within an hours drive that you can afford and therefore still have regular contact and help with your parents.

Theres a big difference between babysitting and having a child live with you 24/7.

All of this ⬆️

Your parents were kind enough to help you out when you were in a tough spot but now it’s time to stand on your own two feet.

I would be so embarrassed to need my parents help so I could tidy my room or go to the gym. You’re a grown adult and a parent - time to stop acting like a teenager and grow up.

TheMimsy · 17/10/2025 09:34

@Bunny44 it sounds like this period of your life living with folks has run its course.

stop discussing your future plans with parents.
make the plans. Enact the plans. Tell parents when the ball is in motion.

if you can afford a nanny or something you can also afford a cleaner to help make life simpler? ;)

if you moved abroad your parents could have extended holidays there and regular video calls.

if you moved out of the area your folks can still visit.

you need some freedom and emotional distance as it sounds like you are in limbo and being stilted. You need your space where you can meet friends and be an independent adult again.

Createausername1970 · 17/10/2025 09:19

Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 21:30

You make it sound like I've always relied on my parents when I lived without them for half my life... They also go away not infrequently for a week or so at a time so I have been on my own and it was very hard. That's why I'm so conflicted about my options. Not really sure what your point is.

I think there is a difference to being in your parents house alone for a few weeks, and living in your own home.

When they come back from holiday the onus will probably have been on you to keep everything "as it was", so they don't walk into to a house that needs cleaning, or your washing taking over the washing machine/tumble drier. You will always be putting their needs first - it is their house after all.

But when you live on your own, you will develop your own routines that will work for you, but may be totally different to what happens now. You may end up with different meal times, different routines around clearing up. I am more of a morning person and will often leaving clearing up until the morning, and I can whizz through it more efficiently at 6 a.m. than 9 p.m. But I can totally understand that is fine in MY home, but not if I was living in someone else's home.

Living on your own will be harder in many respects, but also a lot simpler in other respects.

ApricotCheesecake · 17/10/2025 09:12

@Noiamnotalison it wasn't the taxi that was the issue. She couldn't go out because her parents were giving her brother a lift so there was no one to look after her son (I think).

Noiamnotalison · 17/10/2025 08:59

Also I know you’re struggling with the situation but you shouldn’t need your parents took after your son so you can keep your rooms tidy. That’s a crazy stretch. Most people have to tidy with a child into dying as they go. If you can’t manage that then spend 5 minutes every night tidying and 30 minutes once a week cleaning once he’s gone to sleep,

Some of your complaints do sound quite teenagerish.

Noiamnotalison · 17/10/2025 08:55

When you couldn’t go out, why didn’t you get a taxi like you would have to if you lived alone? This is what people do. They live their lives using taxis and babysitters etc. I only say this because you say money isn’t a problem.

I do feel you are wanting to live your life as if it’s your house and you’re independent whilst your Mum’s at a stage in her life where it is her house and she is independent and should be able to do and cook whatever she likes, how she likes.

This is a choose your hard situation and then suck up the bits you don’t like.

Cucy · 16/10/2025 18:39

To address the point about moving out, I want to move out but my parents give me mixed messages there too.

They’re not giving you mixed messages.

They are telling you they want you to move because they are exhausted and want their space back but they’re not kicking you out on the street.

They have to backtrack because by your own admission you cry and ask if you’re an inconvenience or threaten to move away, even to a different country.

You need to move out.
Surely you can find somewhere within an hours drive that you can afford and therefore still have regular contact and help with your parents.

Theres a big difference between babysitting and having a child live with you 24/7.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 16/10/2025 18:16

Realistically you need to move out. That's the only way to resolve the situation. Ideally it would be somewhere nearby so that you can still lean on them for infrequent work travel and they can maintain a close relationship with your child.

You could buy nearby somewhere that won't have all the bells and whistles you can afford further away, and trade up when funds allow. Buyers market at the moment with whatever Rachel Reeves has planned so it's a good time to buy but also sensible to keep it lean until you see what she's going to do to capital gains etc.

Or you can suck it up while accumulating enough cash so that you can buy nearby in time for your child to start school and maintain all of the pro's. That gives you 2.5 years to be in catchment.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 16/10/2025 17:27

I think your home set up sounds quite difficult tbh. I couldn’t cope with living with parents like that. 3 generations under one roof is not good.

Everyone needs their own space. Your mum is obviously struggling a bit even though she denies it. Adults need their own homes.

Butterflywings84 · 16/10/2025 17:06

Haven’t read all the posts but just wondering what YOU want. Not what your parents say you should want. But what will work best for you.

Support is great but I bet you’ll feel a weight lifted when you’re in your own space with your own rules and can make your own life. It will soon start getting much easier as your son gets older and more independent. Don’t let them guilt you into staying if it is becoming so oppressive.

It would give you the space to make arrangements that work for you all / then when they see your son it can be something less intense and they can enjoy him rather than feeling obligated (even if they are the ones offering).

Mischance · 16/10/2025 16:20

Just to add that I am grandmother age and had a similar scenario for a time to help my DD, her OH and their baby over a very difficult period in their life.
What I can say is that at no point did I feel I had to encourage my DD to be grateful because they quite simply were, and said so. They would not have dreamt of doing otherwise.

Mischance · 16/10/2025 16:15

Several times you have said how hard it is to go it alone and you have made the choice not to do so.
You can't have everything.
You don't like the hard things of going it alone and you don't like the hard things (as you see it) of being in the family home.
You must simply take a decision and suck it up when it comes to the hard things. This is all part of life and its imperfections.

But what you cannot do is resent your Mum for her imperfections. You resent her having an opinion about what you should do but feel free to resent her choices about how she relates to her wider family.

If you choose to go it alone .... which I probanly think you should .... this needs to be done gently and without rancour and with strenuous efforts to maintain relationships for the sake of your son.

If you choose to stay you must do so on your parents' terms ... it is THEIR home.

This is a teenager at home scenario only further down the line.

logplant · 16/10/2025 15:20

seanconneryseyebrow · 16/10/2025 13:19

I’m getting super triggered by your post OP - I can relate hugely. Different situation but I moved into my folks at 47 due to some serious trauma. In many ways they were lovely / in many they were not. V quickly it fell into a parent/child dynamic and I was spoken down to, they made intrusive comments about my life and decisions, and wanted lots of praise and appreciation for doing everything for me - when I was utterly desperate to do it myself. I couldn’t even make a sandwich!

anyway where I think it relates to your situation is I took stock and could see our relationship wasn’t going to survive if I didn’t leave. I lasted 7 mths! I could tell I was about to explode and may say something we’d never come back from and I was really beginning to loathe them. I wasn’t ready financially or emotionally due to certain issues but I absolutely had to go. I did it, but the dynamic had changed - even in just 7 mths - and the boundary crossing continued for some time until I firmly put my foot down. 2 years now and it’s better but it’s still there. I see it as such a lack of respect for me, disguised as concern, yet my brothers are treated completely differently. I don’t think our relationship will ever completely recover from that and I now believe people should never live with their parents as adults unless they have absolutely no other choice.

I can hear it in you where you say ‘mum thinks this’ ‘mum thinks that’ - IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THEY THINK. You are a grown up and a mother and you do you.

if I was you I would make plans move out and barely discuss it with your parents. Give minimal details just ‘this is what we are doing now’. Don’t react to any tears or fury. Just calm and matter of fact. ‘Thanks for your help but this is what we are doing now’. Then do it!

never rely on them again.

I had the same lack of respect from my dd when she moved back in after graduating. I was too keen to make her feel welcomed. She criticised and laughed at everything I did. I sat her down and was quite blunt about how she made me feel and told her if it didn’t stop the only option was for her to move out because I was done putting up with shit in my own house. Happily she did turn it around and very quickly. I don’t think it’s ideal having your adult kids live with you but the boomerang generation never seem to move out.

Secretsrevealed · 16/10/2025 14:54

İf you're financially well off why don't you just drop your child with a babysitter on the nights you want to socialise so that you're not getting it in your ear from your parents?