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I hate my DSD

558 replies

8842688l · 13/10/2025 21:32

There I said it. Got it off my chest

shes a horrible, manipulative, spiteful girl who treats everybody like shit.

nothing more to say just needed to get it off my chest.

OP posts:
8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:59

Nanny0gg · 14/10/2025 10:58

So did you both have a plan as to how to help./deal with her?

Yes we have and we’ve been following it and tapping in to whatever help we can get
I don’t say this lightly, we have exhausted all strategies

OP posts:
Haemagoblin · 14/10/2025 10:59

IsItSnowing · 14/10/2025 09:10

So many people seem to want to excuse the unexcusable here. The OP isn't dealing with normal teenage antics by the sound of it. She's probably dealing with a narcissistic personality who will stop at nothing, including harming those around her to get what she wants.
We talk all the time about narcissists on mumsnet but they don't materialise out of thin air when they become mils. They develop that way as young people or may even be born that way, I don't know. But I do know they exist and they cause untold harm to those around them if given the opportunity.
It's too easy to blame bad parenting and sometimes that may be to blame. And environmental circumstances obviously contribute.
But some people are just bad ones and no amount of good parenting will alter that. You have my sympathy, OP. It sounds horrific.

Narcissists don't appear out of nowhere, no. They are usually the product of traumatic childhoods and unmet needs.

As adults they have to take responsibility for that; as children, the adults around them should do what they can to repair the damage they've done.

Nanny0gg · 14/10/2025 10:58

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:55

Yes, not quite so extreme

So did you both have a plan as to how to help./deal with her?

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:57

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/10/2025 10:55

Then dont post on a forum designed explicitly to garnish people's opinions.

You asked a question, I answered it.

I will do as I please, thanks for the advice though.

OP posts:
Dramatic · 14/10/2025 10:56

Glowingup · 14/10/2025 09:50

How do you mean unwanted by her dad? The fact that her dad remarried doesn’t make her unwanted and we have to get out of the narrative that parents owe it to their children to remain single forever. Your parents splitting up and you gaining half siblings is really not trauma or the worst thing that can happen to someone. Theres kids who survive wars and watch their family members be killed in front of them (ie real trauma) and they don’t turn out like this. Your dad having a new relationship with someone who made an effort and was kind to you really doesn’t come close.

Thank you, this is what I don't understand. People are acting like this child has had a full on life of trauma, it doesn't sound like that to me. And what right does that give her to go around trying to ruin everyone else's lives? None whatsoever.

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:55

Nanny0gg · 14/10/2025 10:50

Was she at all like this before you moved in together?

Yes, not quite so extreme

OP posts:
Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/10/2025 10:55

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:49

Yeah if you read through the thread, I actually just said I couldn’t care less about whether people think IABU or not. I just came to let off some steam

Then dont post on a forum designed explicitly to garnish people's opinions.

HashtagSadTimes · 14/10/2025 10:54

samplesalequeen · 14/10/2025 09:28

How long should someone put up with an adolescent who knows right from wrong destroying their family life?

your psycho babble post suggests the OP should just continue to endure lies and turmoil.

Oh yes "psychobabble" as the sneering dismissal.

It is interesting that you position the child as someone from whom the OP must rescue her family. Whilst I might agree that OP and the stepdaughter shouldn't be living together, I wouldn't be prepared to let OP see herself as white as the driven snow here. And if I was to mirror your sneering I would ask who needs to be saved from whom, in reality.

She agreed for SD to live with them. Implicit in that is that she understood the parental responsibilities and what they look like. OP has failed badly in living up to the duties and responsibilities that she undertook three years ago.
The reasons for that failure are actually pretty clear: In psychobabble OP has low insight into her own contribution to the dynamic, in everyday terms: OP is quite selfish and really likes things on her own terms.
The fact OP is seeing a therapist for 'trauma' and the SD isn't, can most kindly be met with a massive eyeroll. If I wanted to sneer my response would be "Wow, that's manipulating the narrative, isn't it."

Yes, the 15 year old is obviously very challenging, even 'good' and 'normal' ones are, but she still deserves to be loved, supported, understood, to be part of a family.

Beachtastic · 14/10/2025 10:52

I've just remembered that the old lady I mentioned upthread thought her son probably took after his father. It sounds as though perhaps your DSD takes after her mum!

Hope you can find the space for a calmer life soon, OP. Good luck!

Nanny0gg · 14/10/2025 10:50

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:49

Yeah if you read through the thread, I actually just said I couldn’t care less about whether people think IABU or not. I just came to let off some steam

Was she at all like this before you moved in together?

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:49

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/10/2025 10:43

You posted on AIBU....

Yeah if you read through the thread, I actually just said I couldn’t care less about whether people think IABU or not. I just came to let off some steam

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 14/10/2025 10:47

8842688l · 13/10/2025 21:58

Guys sorry I was just here to release some much needed steam. I don’t actually care who thinks I’m unreasonable…

Imagine your other children being subjected to an investigation by social services because of a sick lie. Sorry, never going to win me over. It’s unforgivable

So where's her father in all this?

Hellohelga · 14/10/2025 10:46

Sal820 · 14/10/2025 10:30

But you haven't? You haven't taken your children away from all this have you? Why aren't you prioritising them? Your OH can't abandon his child because you've had enough of her, she's only 15.

This is a huge cry for help by her OP. Her mother is not a great parent by the sounds of it. She's lived with both parents then been moved away by her mother or her mother has moved away and dumped her on her dad and so she's now living with her father and his new shiny family. She's no one's priority and that is the attention she is desperately craving. She's gone about it badly because she doesn't know what else to do. I understand that you don't have to put with this but her dad does. No one behaves like this because they're happy and coping well, she's desperately unhappy and her father needs to step up and help her through this. 15 is an incredibly difficult age.

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8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:45

TeaForTheTillermanSteakForTheSun · 14/10/2025 10:42

I'm with you op.

I absolutely hate my dps child. He is just an awful, selfish, nasty, manipulative, abusive little cunt.

I have decided not to live with dp because of his child, because he would never be welcome in my house.

I know it's easier said than done, but I would leave, it doesn't mean the end of the relationship, just means you're not living together for a while, this will probably do your dc a favour too, it sounds like a hellish way to live.

One brilliant thing that has come from this post is the thought of me and children moving to our own place but continuing relationship with DP. As I say I think he’s a wonderful parent and my children are lucky to have him, he’s kind and patient, he’s caring and really would go to the end of the earth for them. Win win, I can escape this hellhole while he sorts it out and my children get to see healthy ways of managing conflict from parents without having to see us break up.

OP posts:
Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/10/2025 10:43

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:36

Please find the part where I asked for opinions, you are giving them freely.

I came to get it off my chest, and it feels great doing so.

You posted on AIBU....

TeaForTheTillermanSteakForTheSun · 14/10/2025 10:42

I'm with you op.

I absolutely hate my dps child. He is just an awful, selfish, nasty, manipulative, abusive little cunt.

I have decided not to live with dp because of his child, because he would never be welcome in my house.

I know it's easier said than done, but I would leave, it doesn't mean the end of the relationship, just means you're not living together for a while, this will probably do your dc a favour too, it sounds like a hellish way to live.

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:36

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/10/2025 10:21

Then perhaps she shouldn't post on an Internet forum that exactly asks for people's opinions.

Please find the part where I asked for opinions, you are giving them freely.

I came to get it off my chest, and it feels great doing so.

OP posts:
ThatCyanCat · 14/10/2025 10:32

Why do so many people expect an adolescent to display more maturity, emotional resilience and selflessness than they do themselves? If their partner displayed awful behaviour they'd be looking for the reasons; a kid who can't even legally buy vapes or play the lottery, whose life has been thrown about by the adults, and the only explanation is that they're just innately evil.

Sal820 · 14/10/2025 10:30

8842688l · 13/10/2025 22:08

I can bet you my last pound, not one person saying “poor child” “god what a terrible person you are” “she must feel the same about you” has ever experienced what I’ve had to.
I have done near to everything I possibly can for said child, but after some unforgivable shit. I am done pretending.

It’s ruined a brilliant marriage (which actually is the least of my worries right now) and I’m now looking at the option to get my two children as far away from this as possible.

But you haven't? You haven't taken your children away from all this have you? Why aren't you prioritising them? Your OH can't abandon his child because you've had enough of her, she's only 15.

This is a huge cry for help by her OP. Her mother is not a great parent by the sounds of it. She's lived with both parents then been moved away by her mother or her mother has moved away and dumped her on her dad and so she's now living with her father and his new shiny family. She's no one's priority and that is the attention she is desperately craving. She's gone about it badly because she doesn't know what else to do. I understand that you don't have to put with this but her dad does. No one behaves like this because they're happy and coping well, she's desperately unhappy and her father needs to step up and help her through this. 15 is an incredibly difficult age.

nothingtoseehereatall · 14/10/2025 10:25

But OP you haven't really said what she's actually done, other than (not saying its not serious) the call to social services. It might well be that she's done lots of other awful things but people can't know that without you telling them.

I'm not saying you have any obligation to tell people anything, btw.

nomas · 14/10/2025 10:23

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/10/2025 10:21

Then perhaps she shouldn't post on an Internet forum that exactly asks for people's opinions.

Giving opinions is one thing, telling OP others have been through worse is another. Who cares?! She is going through hell herself.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/10/2025 10:21

nomas · 14/10/2025 09:57

Who cares what others have been through? OP is dealing with her own bad situation, she has enough on her plate without worrying about strangers on the internet.

Then perhaps she shouldn't post on an Internet forum that exactly asks for people's opinions.

Glowingup · 14/10/2025 10:20

Skirtingtheissue76 · 14/10/2025 09:15

Funnily enough I was reading about teenage brains only yesterday and the science demonstrates that only a tiny percentage of children are born “evil” to use everyday language, only a tiny percentage display psychopathic behaviour from birth despite growing up in a loving home.

The overwhelming majority of children are born normal and poor parenting fucks that up. So the theory everyone keeps spouting on here that op’s dsd was innately bad from birth is unlikely be true. It’s just much easier to blame a child for the dysfunction adults impose on them rather than acknowledge this fact.

Maybe the adults who fucked them up were similarly fucked up by their own parents and shouldn’t be blamed for that either 🤷‍♀️

Maybe next time someone writes about their abusive shit of a DP or their violent neighbour we should feel sympathy for the abusers because it’s not their fault they got fucked up after all.

Basically unless you’ve been tortured and physically/mentally abused from birth you know right from wrong at 15. And very very few teens do behave like the OP’s DSD. If it was super common to make false allegations to try to ruin someone’s life then loads of kids would do it.

LavendersBlueeee · 14/10/2025 10:18

What has DSD actually done OP?

nomas · 14/10/2025 10:16

doglover90 · 14/10/2025 10:09

If you think your children's wellbeing is at risk, why don't you end the relationship?

OP has already said she's considering it, give her a break.

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