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To call for this charity to be sued under UK equality act ?!

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Sickleg · 13/10/2025 16:33

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kwk1204jno.amp

They’ve got millions . Make them pay some of those millions to a women’s charity.

BBC STORY:

A charity run organised by the East London Mosque Trust has excluded women and girls aged 13 and over from taking part.
The Muslim Charity Run, which was held in Victoria Park in Tower Hamlets on Sunday, said on its website: "Our inclusive atmosphere ensures that every individual, from the youngest to the oldest, can take part and make a difference."
It added: "This is open to men, boys of all ages and girls under 12, but everyone is welcome at the park to cheer on the runners."

A stock image close-up of a female athlete tying her running shoe.

'Inclusive' Muslim Charity Run bans women and teenage girls - BBC News

The Muslim Charity Run says its "inclusive" race is open to men, boys - and girls under 12.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kwk1204jno.amp

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TY78910 · 13/10/2025 23:14

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 23:09

It doesn't matter whether the rules "satisfy the majority" if they aren't compliant with the actual law.

Well the only way to know for sure if the exemptions in the Equality Act apply here would be to… sue the mosque which looks like nobody on this thread is willing to do. As the interpretations differ.

I am very curious though, if the event was ran by Orthodox Jews or Buddhists with the same criteria, would this thread also exist?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 23:09

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 23:05

Nobody is saying the UK recognises ‘Islamic law’. But certain customs that this religion holds in its own right. You are not a Muslim, therefore these customs don’t apply to you, nor are they imposed on you.

People take part in charity runs because they believe in the cause. None of you people would take part in a run to raise money for local Mosques. And the organisers know that.

So they organised an event with rules that satisfy their majority - that is Muslim people. But white folk want to jump in and argue on principle, about an event they wouldn’t even spectate for.

It doesn't matter whether the rules "satisfy the majority" if they aren't compliant with the actual law.

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 23:05

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 23:01

I’m not trolling (do you know what that means?)
I’m asking you why this hysterical thread and emails to the mayor rather than court action to right this (identified by yourselves as a very clear) breech of the EA

You asked what I was doing about this - I told you. That wasn't good enough. You want me to sue the mosque instead. For someone who has already confirmed they don't care, why are you bothered what I choose to do?

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 23:05

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 22:53

At risk of sounding like a Reform voter, we don't recognise Islamic law in the UK. What matters is the laws passed by Parliament, not the made up laws of people's various sky pixies.

Even Muslims have to comply with the Equality Act.

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Nobody is saying the UK recognises ‘Islamic law’. But certain customs that this religion holds in its own right. You are not a Muslim, therefore these customs don’t apply to you, nor are they imposed on you.

People take part in charity runs because they believe in the cause. None of you people would take part in a run to raise money for local Mosques. And the organisers know that.

So they organised an event with rules that satisfy their majority - that is Muslim people. But white folk want to jump in and argue on principle, about an event they wouldn’t even spectate for.

millymollymoomoo · 13/10/2025 23:02

People supporting this and being goady should be ashamed. We all know why they’re excluded and we all ( should) know it’s completely unacceptable in this country and wont be tolerated !

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 23:01

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 22:58

You’re busy commenting on here, why not complain instead of trolling?

I’m not trolling (do you know what that means?)
I’m asking you why this hysterical thread and emails to the mayor rather than court action to right this (identified by yourselves as a very clear) breech of the EA

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 22:58

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 22:55

I want the law to be upheld. I want organisations to be held accountable when in breach. I want the continuation of equal opportunities in accessing goods and services. I want parity across protected characteristics. You seem obsessed with suing places for some reason.

If you want the law to be upheld, your ultimate course of action is to go through the court system.

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 22:58

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 19:13

Who are you reporting it to?

I’m not doing anything.

You’re busy commenting on here, why not complain instead of trolling?

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Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 22:56

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 22:55

I want the law to be upheld. I want organisations to be held accountable when in breach. I want the continuation of equal opportunities in accessing goods and services. I want parity across protected characteristics. You seem obsessed with suing places for some reason.

Because that’s the remedy the EA- which you have said clearly is on your side- offers.

what on earth would you try and enact the EA by an email to the charities commission? It’s really odd behaviour

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 22:55

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 22:34

I don’t understand why you don’t think you can’t sue the mosque. You know the law, you know it’s on your side, you’re passionate- it’s literally just filling out and submitting forms??

I want the law to be upheld. I want organisations to be held accountable when in breach. I want the continuation of equal opportunities in accessing goods and services. I want parity across protected characteristics. You seem obsessed with suing places for some reason.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 22:55

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 22:52

Because the London Marathon isn’t organised by an Islamic organisation 🙄
Islam, like any other religion has several denominations. Some that will be more and some less conservative. There are parts of the world like Bosnia where Muslims drink for instance, but in the Middle East that wouldn’t be the case.

Islamic organisations have to comply with the law, just like everyone else.

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 22:54

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 22:34

I don’t understand why you don’t think you can’t sue the mosque. You know the law, you know it’s on your side, you’re passionate- it’s literally just filling out and submitting forms??

You seem passionate about commenting . Why don’t you start ptoceedings? How do you know lots of us haven’t already complained to MP, mayor & chariity itself.

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/10/2025 22:53

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 22:30

Well it does. Because the Equality Act says that religion is a protected characteristic.

In Islam, adult men and women don’t generally exercise together. That is their religious right. Females under 12 are not seen as reaching the age of maturity that’s recognised in Islam as 12 (average puberty), therefore they are allowed to mix.

You wouldn’t sue a religious event based on gender discrimination in the same way that nobody sues the Catholic Church for not allowing female priests.

Someone upthread said that it’s not an inclusive event. The inclusive (as we see it) part is based on the spectator side - anyone is able to make a day out of it, cheer on and observe, just like you would with the London Marathon.

At risk of sounding like a Reform voter, we don't recognise Islamic law in the UK. What matters is the laws passed by Parliament, not the made up laws of people's various sky pixies.

Even Muslims have to comply with the Equality Act.

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 22:52

Thatstheheatingon · 13/10/2025 22:41

But @TY78910 Muslim women ran in the London Marathon, which is a mixed sex event.

Because the London Marathon isn’t organised by an Islamic organisation 🙄
Islam, like any other religion has several denominations. Some that will be more and some less conservative. There are parts of the world like Bosnia where Muslims drink for instance, but in the Middle East that wouldn’t be the case.

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 22:49

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 22:30

Well it does. Because the Equality Act says that religion is a protected characteristic.

In Islam, adult men and women don’t generally exercise together. That is their religious right. Females under 12 are not seen as reaching the age of maturity that’s recognised in Islam as 12 (average puberty), therefore they are allowed to mix.

You wouldn’t sue a religious event based on gender discrimination in the same way that nobody sues the Catholic Church for not allowing female priests.

Someone upthread said that it’s not an inclusive event. The inclusive (as we see it) part is based on the spectator side - anyone is able to make a day out of it, cheer on and observe, just like you would with the London Marathon.

Where are the lawyers when you wanf them ?!

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PencilsInSpace · 13/10/2025 22:45

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 22:30

Well it does. Because the Equality Act says that religion is a protected characteristic.

In Islam, adult men and women don’t generally exercise together. That is their religious right. Females under 12 are not seen as reaching the age of maturity that’s recognised in Islam as 12 (average puberty), therefore they are allowed to mix.

You wouldn’t sue a religious event based on gender discrimination in the same way that nobody sues the Catholic Church for not allowing female priests.

Someone upthread said that it’s not an inclusive event. The inclusive (as we see it) part is based on the spectator side - anyone is able to make a day out of it, cheer on and observe, just like you would with the London Marathon.

Religion is a protected characteristic. That doesn't mean that religions have carte blanche to discriminate. It's still unlawful conduct unless there is a specific EA exception they can use, such as the one which permits the catholic church to exclude women from the priesthood:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/schedule/9/part/1/crossheading/religious-requirements-relating-to-sex-marriage-etc-sexual-orientation

Willyoujustbequiet · 13/10/2025 22:44

Currymaker · 13/10/2025 18:15

What's distressing about this race is that the organisers claim that it's an inclusive event, when it's openly excluding a specific group of people. If it were men only, or women only, that would be ok provided they didn't call it inclusive. By saying that females over the age of 12 can't run, they're making it clear that they feel there is something wrong with adolescent girls and women running. I'd love to hear them say openly what those reasons are.

Exactly. Its appalling.

I think it constitutes a clear breach of equalities legislation and I should imagine will be investigated. We haven't heard the last of this one

Thatstheheatingon · 13/10/2025 22:41

But @TY78910 Muslim women ran in the London Marathon, which is a mixed sex event.

BackToLurk · 13/10/2025 22:40

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 22:30

Well it does. Because the Equality Act says that religion is a protected characteristic.

In Islam, adult men and women don’t generally exercise together. That is their religious right. Females under 12 are not seen as reaching the age of maturity that’s recognised in Islam as 12 (average puberty), therefore they are allowed to mix.

You wouldn’t sue a religious event based on gender discrimination in the same way that nobody sues the Catholic Church for not allowing female priests.

Someone upthread said that it’s not an inclusive event. The inclusive (as we see it) part is based on the spectator side - anyone is able to make a day out of it, cheer on and observe, just like you would with the London Marathon.

It's not a religious event though. You don't have to be Muslim to take part

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 22:34

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 22:20

Who'd you think I am?! 😂 sure, I'll start legal action immeduatejy , right this minute ma'am, is that swift enough for you? You're deliberately being obtuse. As a collective, we can email the mosque in question, write to the m.p, notify the charity commission, raise concerns with tower hamlets council, question London marathon involvement - all achievable, realistic actions. How do you think citizens go about affecting change? Any of that good enough for you?

I don’t understand why you don’t think you can’t sue the mosque. You know the law, you know it’s on your side, you’re passionate- it’s literally just filling out and submitting forms??

TY78910 · 13/10/2025 22:30

Sickleg · 13/10/2025 18:11

They can practise their faith however they want “under UK Equality law”.

Well it does. Because the Equality Act says that religion is a protected characteristic.

In Islam, adult men and women don’t generally exercise together. That is their religious right. Females under 12 are not seen as reaching the age of maturity that’s recognised in Islam as 12 (average puberty), therefore they are allowed to mix.

You wouldn’t sue a religious event based on gender discrimination in the same way that nobody sues the Catholic Church for not allowing female priests.

Someone upthread said that it’s not an inclusive event. The inclusive (as we see it) part is based on the spectator side - anyone is able to make a day out of it, cheer on and observe, just like you would with the London Marathon.

BackToLurk · 13/10/2025 22:29

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 22:20

Who'd you think I am?! 😂 sure, I'll start legal action immeduatejy , right this minute ma'am, is that swift enough for you? You're deliberately being obtuse. As a collective, we can email the mosque in question, write to the m.p, notify the charity commission, raise concerns with tower hamlets council, question London marathon involvement - all achievable, realistic actions. How do you think citizens go about affecting change? Any of that good enough for you?

As an individual you could challenge why you, as a woman, couldn't take part and claim unlawful discrimination. That's how the Act works

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 22:20

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 22:06

Then….. we go back to why you haven’t started legal action, what with it being such a clear cut case and the law backing you up so strongly.

Who'd you think I am?! 😂 sure, I'll start legal action immeduatejy , right this minute ma'am, is that swift enough for you? You're deliberately being obtuse. As a collective, we can email the mosque in question, write to the m.p, notify the charity commission, raise concerns with tower hamlets council, question London marathon involvement - all achievable, realistic actions. How do you think citizens go about affecting change? Any of that good enough for you?

Bambamhoohoo · 13/10/2025 22:06

SomeGreyDay · 13/10/2025 22:04

And what a strange way you have of looking at things. You don't care about discriminatory, misogynistic unlawful behaviour - odd, but your prerogative. Fortunately we have laws which agree with me. They're there for a reason.

Then….. we go back to why you haven’t started legal action, what with it being such a clear cut case and the law backing you up so strongly.

scorpiogirly · 13/10/2025 22:05

We should not be tolerant of this in this country.