Jodie Turner-Smith Graham Norton

Both things can be true. It's offensive to people with Tourettes to suggest they have no control over the words that come out their mouths ever.

I just watched it... to me, she just came across as very self-conscious, as you would be if you've had a lifetime of people staring at you.

She also has some odd mannerisms, like pointing at people she's talking to, or facing them in a very intense way. And a sort of dreamy sense of offhand humour, which I found quite funny.

I've known beautiful women who behave like this - it's a kind of tried and tested way of charming people, and who can blame them since I doubt anyone treats them normally!

I thought she appeared drunk too

I agree, but she has to downplay all of the things you have mentioned because she's a woman. Haven't you seen what they do to successful, talented women who don't pretend they feel just SO lucky? Men get to be ambitious and strategic; women just get called pushy and calculating.

"If you're tired of being accused of racism perhaps there's a reason"

All of this.

I look forward to my snooze.

He’s not just tongue in cheek, he literally has Tourette’s.

I agree.
Some of these people fall over themselves to be offended on someone else's behalf. I don't think they even know the context in which it was said.

It made me laugh too but if I remember correctly the context was a previous conversation where he had sworn a lot within earshot of her baby bump so basically he was asking if the baby had learnt to swear from him. He wasn't saying anything derogatory and he wasn't calling her a cunt. I mean who knows what he was intending to say and what really the history is bw them but on the face of it I dont think anyone said anything offensive including jodie TS. It's an inane show with people talking about inane stuff. I don't think we need to analyse anyone's behaviour that closely.

If you go on a show like Graham Norton and everyone's drinking you gotta roll with the punches 👊 🤪

Did you watch the clip?
You understand the context, right?

What a fucking edgelord, saying that about a lady's baby.

Poor woman.

Not only that but he asked if Jodie’s baby’s first word was “cunt”. She was visibly upset about that and said something about having breastfed her child for 3 years and that his first word was “mama”. I was really appalled by what he said and by the fact that everyone laughed about it when it so obviously distressed her.

@ConnieHeart her eyebrows are unfortunately frozen with botox. I found it off putting. I find it really sad the pressure women are under to basically stay at age 25. 😔

I do find it funny that Lewis Capaldi came on the show in a hoodie, dropped the F bomb and C*nt within 30 seconds of sitting on the sofa but mumsnet are obviously clutching their pearls at an unknown actress basically being a bit too drunk, awkward and mostly quiet.
Fwiw I love Lewis' tongue in cheek approach but it's tedious at how much women and men are judged so differently.

I thought TS looked exactly as I remember her, natural, pretty and completely normal looking

💯 🥳

FRIEDSHED...

Othering... now there's a word!

Isn't our English Language impeccable!!

Haven’t logged on for a while, read strange OP, remember why I barely log into MN these days and log back off.

Used to challenge these nonsensical OPs but MN doesn’t seem to care their website is being overrun by bad faith posters so why am I wasting my time trying to help keep their site attractive to advertisers? It will eventually end up the same as Twitter.

You’re not “pointing out” racism though. You’re accusing posters of it based on your own chosen recently popular ideological belief systems around race. The only time you’re going to get your preferred quiet, frightened acceptance of your accusations these days is if the person you’re accusing still subscribes to those ideas too. I’m afraid most people don’t now and they’re not afraid to say so. The moment has passed. Certain MNetters are hanging onto them with a death grip though, as this behaviour has, after all, been so profitable for them in controlling conversations in the past:

This! As well as a few who do it knowing that the exaggerated compliments are likely to provoke disagreement/attempts to balance, which they can then pounce on and declare as racism.

Fair enough - I was weighing in to echo the correct and definitive opinion

Also, if Jodie was pissed on Graham Norton she would be following in a long and noble tradition. That is why GN is fun to watch

I have already stated the correct and definitive opinion so this is redundant - imho.

From what I’ve seen, Margot Robbie knows how to behave and it would be hard to find someone more beautiful than her.

Margot is very attractive but her "ahh shucks", "gee how did I end up in Hollywood" self deprecating act gets on my nerves. She is incredibly ambitious, strategic & very PR savvy. I don't know why she has to downplay this.

She came across as very affected but it could be nerves.

I’m white for context

Weighing in with my opinion which is the correct and definitive one:

Anok Yai is a stunningly beautiful - an otherworldly level of beauty. That is why she is such a successful model

Jodie is gorgeous but not on that level of incredible beauty. She is an actor not a model so she doesn’t need to be as beautiful as Anok. Anok probably can’t act as well as Jodie.

Jodie was a bit weird on Graham Norton. Actors do tend to be a bit batshit crazy so that might explain it