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I want to start eating meals as a family but there are so many hurdles to overcome

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Rockininthefreeworld · 12/10/2025 19:59

Please don't judge me. I'm really looking for some advice and just feel so dissatisfied with our whole set-up 😔

I have felt bad about the fact that we never eat as a family. We have two children, age 6 and 2, and they always eat separately to us. This is for a number of reasons...

  1. DH is a very fussy eater, and won't eat 90% of the things I make for the children
  2. DH and I both work full-time until around 6pm, making eating together quite challenging. Having said that, we both work from home a lot, so it is do-able with some planning (but then, see point 1...)
  3. We have a kitchen island but no room for a dining table, which means eating together in the kitchen is just sitting in a row. This makes conversations feel a bit challenging.
  4. We have a dining room (although carpeted...) and I'd love us all to eat in there, but DH gets very very funny about mess and smells. I've tried to approach the subject but he just gets annoyed and shuts it down. He uses the dining room to work, which is very annoying to be honest because I feel like that's a whole social room that we've just completely lost out on.

The 2 year old is at nursery full time which does give him "social eating" time, and I think the 6 year old is fine because we do eat out and I often go back to my parents where we sit together at the table. But, he also gets very bored if I'm not constantly entertaining him and he's not a stranger to the tablet at the table. I hate that and feel quite ashamed.

I just don't know how to handle this. I feel so dissatisfied with the whole arrangement, but DH isn't going to support me with it and it feels difficult trying to do it in the kitchen anyway. I just want us to have a nice family meal together, even just at the weekends, but even if we manage that it still has to be in the friggin' kitchen and no-one will talk to me, DS will moan for his tablet and DH will be on his phone. I've tried to implement this before (in the kitchen), and it just felt pointless in the end because I felt like I was fighting a losing battle.

Does anyone have any advice? 🙁

OP posts:
OwlBeThere · 13/10/2025 21:33

loubielou31 · 13/10/2025 08:59

@OwlBeThere it is, I am sure possible to have quality family interaction without sharing a meal time but for most families making a point of eating together is the easiest option. Everyone has to eat, most people eat at roughly the same time each day so it is a point in the day when members of the household gather, share a meal and chat. No extra planning or thought required.
Culturally shared meals are also quite a big event, most religions have some culture of shared dining. Significant milestones like birthdays or weddings usually involve eating together.

Of course there are families who for lots of different reasons can not share meal times and they have other ways to have those bonding experiences and check in with each other but they I would imagine need to be planned, for most families eating together is just easier.

Of course, I’m just saying that there are other ways if meal times are not an activity that works for you. As you say culturally it’s the one that is supposed to be shared and so
offen we think it has to be that or nothing, just putting it out there that other ways might suit the OP (or anyone else reading) better that they hadn’t thought of.

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/10/2025 21:29

Def celebrate the win
what was the meal ?

Ddakji · 13/10/2025 20:52

Well done @Rockininthefreeworld!

TakeMe2Insanity · 13/10/2025 20:46

Well done @Rockininthefreeworld

Hereforthecommentz · 13/10/2025 20:29

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 20:15

Well it obviously isn’t fine as he’s unable to sit and eat quietly for a few minutes. Please, please switch it off and put it in the loft. He’s 6, he needs you to choose proper parenting over quick fixes with long term side effects.

I hate to tell you they use tablets all the time in primary schools for learning games. Get off your high horse.

loubielou31 · 13/10/2025 20:23

@Rockininthefreeworld That is a win. Wow!
The dining room isn't going anywhere, that battle is further down the line.

Cuwins · 13/10/2025 20:20

Rockininthefreeworld · 13/10/2025 20:15

As just a small win to add to this thread...I didn't tackle the dining room tonight, but I did make dinner for all of us, at the same time, eating the same thing, at the kitchen island. No tablets or phones, and a lovely conversation about the difference between a squid and an octopus led by DS.

I appreciate there are many, many issues to deal with. But I'm really tired and tonight that feels like a little win that I'm going to celebrate. Thank you everyone 🥹

That’s great! Celebrate the small wins always

Rockininthefreeworld · 13/10/2025 20:15

As just a small win to add to this thread...I didn't tackle the dining room tonight, but I did make dinner for all of us, at the same time, eating the same thing, at the kitchen island. No tablets or phones, and a lovely conversation about the difference between a squid and an octopus led by DS.

I appreciate there are many, many issues to deal with. But I'm really tired and tonight that feels like a little win that I'm going to celebrate. Thank you everyone 🥹

OP posts:
RampantIvy · 13/10/2025 20:03

SilkAndSparklesForParties · 13/10/2025 19:44

@Rockininthefreeworld and as kindly as possible, how did you get from dates with a man who has significant food issues and an aversion to shared mealtimes, to making not one but two babies.

I dated a chap twice and on the second date he told me about his mum's chilli. Mince, gravy and baked beans. I ran, slowed down only by the rolls of red flags.

Yes. I did wonder this as well.

Someone like this would not have gone beyond a couple of dates with me.

SilkAndSparklesForParties · 13/10/2025 19:44

@Rockininthefreeworld and as kindly as possible, how did you get from dates with a man who has significant food issues and an aversion to shared mealtimes, to making not one but two babies.

I dated a chap twice and on the second date he told me about his mum's chilli. Mince, gravy and baked beans. I ran, slowed down only by the rolls of red flags.

DuchessofSuffolk · 13/10/2025 19:37

Could you start off with meals in the weekend? So like, a fun relatively easy tea on a Saturday night and a roast dinner on a Sunday? They could get everyone used to the idea of sitting round and eating. You say DH is fussy, how fussy exactly?

Mackerelfillets · 13/10/2025 19:32

I totally get your pain. When my kids were younger I'd eat with them or I'd feed them and then have mine later with DH. Now they're older I eventually stopped doing it.

  1. DH is very fussy and likes one pot, spicy, healthy huge veg and carb heavy meals that noone else likes.
  2. DD is vegan and likes to cook her own.
  3. DS comes home later than everyone else and is fussy, doesn't like lumps etc.
  4. I'm on mounjaro.
  5. Other DD back from Uni will eat anything but is rarely in at teatime. It became a nightmare so I gave up.
RampantIvy · 13/10/2025 19:28

Mumptynumpty · 12/10/2025 20:29

It's ok to have sensory differences, we all have preferences. But, the world cannot stop because of that. Your DH needs to take responsibility for his own needs, he can open the window, light a candle whatever, but dictating is not healthy.

You are pandering to him which is modelling pandering to your children. Sometimes 'no" is a whole sentence. A firm no. A nothing doing no. A you can't manipulate me out of no. It can still be a kind no.

In allowing your DH to run the whole world in your home everyone is pandering to him and that is unhealthy, it reduces you, and your children are watching and learning.

I agree with this ^^

He said that the children don't need variety in what they eat.

Yes, they do. He is projecting his own issues with food and can't see that everyone else is not like him. He needs to understand that his issues are his and he shouldn't make them everyone else's.

Jade3450 · 13/10/2025 19:23

CautiousLurker01 · 13/10/2025 19:10

Really? She says he may be ND. These are ways to compromise.

The alternative is to leave him and she doesn’t seem to want to do that. YET. All the PPs here, of course, are gearing straight to that.

Compromise will take the heat out of the situation and enable her to reassess and make rational decisions about how she wants to move forward. The knee jerk reaction on MN is to immediately move to LTB [easy when it is not your life you are blowing up and you are hiding behind a keyboard]. This may be the decision she ultimately needs to make, but RIGHT NOW, on an immediate day to day basis, she needs to dial down what is going on in her house and take the tension out of meal times for her children. If she does that, he may feel less overwhelmed and also be open to compromise. And consider an assessment/support if he is ND.

At the moment she is as unwilling to compromise as he is [eg. she wants them all to eat together, she does NOT want to use the kitchen island, she seems not to consider that he may feel the need to have a designated workspace rather than feel he must camp out in the dining room] and, as is obvious, she is fed up, emotional and using this space to rant because tensions are ramping up … and both parties seem to be becoming more and more entrenched in their positions which makes dialogue and compromise less and less possible.

But I am done here.

SHE’S as unwilling to compromise as he is??

She’s tying herself in knots trying to accommodate him. She’s even considering building work they don’t need to change the kitchen layout so they don’t have to use ‘his’ dining room. (Except he won’t allow the building work.)

Theres a perfectly good spare room he can use as his office, which she has offered him.

She doesn’t light her own wood burner, fry food or even open her own double doors because of him.

And yet SHE has to compromise?

ThejoyofNC · 13/10/2025 19:22

Your husband is a dictator.

My parents fed me crap as a child and I resent them for it. I've had to force myself through tears and gagging to get to a stage where I can eat vegetables now as an adult. It's absolutely miserable. Do not allow him to limit their diet.

Peacockcolours · 13/10/2025 19:21

I feel for you - I think you’re at risk of creating problems for your children around food. It’s crazy you have a dining room and table but can’t use it! I think this is a deal breaker with children and hopefully your dh will start to put in an effort for his family. It can’t be all his way, especially on this.

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/10/2025 19:15

CautiousLurker01 · 13/10/2025 18:32

Because he works from home and needs the room 35 hours a week compared to the 4-7 hours a week the family spends eating? There is an island in the kitchen that can be used for childrens meals like 100s of 1000s of families in the country do, but it appears there is no spare room/office that he can use? Why create conflict when there is an easy solution - other than moving house to buy a bigger house where he can have a dedicated office?

Edited

There’s a spare bedroom that op @Rockininthefreeworld works in as her office

she is happy to swap - all dh has is a laptop so can work anywhere

a room upstairs away from smell and noise is perfect

op can then work in the dining room if they can’t share the office space

and then it gets used for many hours

Sharptonguedwoman · 13/10/2025 19:13

Rockininthefreeworld · 13/10/2025 13:52

@TwinklyStork I want to be mindful of all of this, but I don't know how to handle it. I don't necessarily think he's doing any of it on purpose, but what am I supposed to do? He won't get help, he doesn't think anything will help and won't even entertain it

Then that's the problem. You have three people tip-toeing around a control freak. I do appreciate that people are different but I couldn't live like this where one person gets to say what everyone does and what everyone eats. I know he isn't a baby but he sounds like one.

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/10/2025 19:10

exaltedwombat · 13/10/2025 18:24

You have a hankering for ‘family mealtime’ that doesn’t seem to align with other family members’ circumstances or desires. Why should it prevail?

It’s only dh objecting

1 out of 4 people

children should be able to sit at a table and enjoy a meal with a parent /adult being able to sit with them and chat about their day

CautiousLurker01 · 13/10/2025 19:10

Jade3450 · 13/10/2025 18:54

So you’d give him exactly what he wants and pander to his controlling behaviour?

These are awful suggestions.

Really? She says he may be ND. These are ways to compromise.

The alternative is to leave him and she doesn’t seem to want to do that. YET. All the PPs here, of course, are gearing straight to that.

Compromise will take the heat out of the situation and enable her to reassess and make rational decisions about how she wants to move forward. The knee jerk reaction on MN is to immediately move to LTB [easy when it is not your life you are blowing up and you are hiding behind a keyboard]. This may be the decision she ultimately needs to make, but RIGHT NOW, on an immediate day to day basis, she needs to dial down what is going on in her house and take the tension out of meal times for her children. If she does that, he may feel less overwhelmed and also be open to compromise. And consider an assessment/support if he is ND.

At the moment she is as unwilling to compromise as he is [eg. she wants them all to eat together, she does NOT want to use the kitchen island, she seems not to consider that he may feel the need to have a designated workspace rather than feel he must camp out in the dining room] and, as is obvious, she is fed up, emotional and using this space to rant because tensions are ramping up … and both parties seem to be becoming more and more entrenched in their positions which makes dialogue and compromise less and less possible.

But I am done here.

Cuwins · 13/10/2025 19:03

CautiousLurker01 · 13/10/2025 18:32

Because he works from home and needs the room 35 hours a week compared to the 4-7 hours a week the family spends eating? There is an island in the kitchen that can be used for childrens meals like 100s of 1000s of families in the country do, but it appears there is no spare room/office that he can use? Why create conflict when there is an easy solution - other than moving house to buy a bigger house where he can have a dedicated office?

Edited

OP has said he can swap with her and have the upstairs office so that’s a nice easy solution. I have a 3 year old and no way would I want her sitting at an island if there is another solution- she would be constantly wiggling on her stall and falling off!

BBCLW · 13/10/2025 18:59

Don't forget 2 and 6 year olds get older. There's plenty of time to have meals together, and in the meantime if meals together isn't wanted by the rest of the family, or practical, make sure you do something else together as a family instead. After all it isn't great social communication time if you're spending the time telling the children to not eat with their mouths full.

Jade3450 · 13/10/2025 18:54

CautiousLurker01 · 13/10/2025 14:08

Entire family of ND people here. All with their individual idiosyncrasies. In your shoes (and we have fussy eaters, a couple over sensitive to smells etc) i’d do the following.

I’d make the dining room his office and be done with it. Door closed. End off.
I’d make the kitchen island work (all my friends use this, the dining room is only used on high days and holiday and/or when we have visiting family).
I’d feed the kids separately, joining them most days, and early in the evening with a wide range of foods - prepared with windows wide open, doors closed and husband’s space also closed off.
I’d feed him whatever beige, unscented food he wants later in the evening when he’s finished work (this is not different to my DH eating when he comes home at 730/8pm, my kids having eaten at 6pm, even as teenagers).
I’d do a family meal that everyone can eat together once or twice at weekends.

This doesn’t fix the other stuff.. and again I say we are an entirely ND household and NO ONE is allowed to entirely dictate the rules, but we do accept that DH works long hours and can be tired at the weekends/evenings. He’s also not the fussy eater (DD is, DS was) but he HATES food smells permeating the house and lingering in bedrooms. Eldest/DD is the same and won’t eat if DH/DD are having a curry and will insist upon waiting until later in the evening to grab her own meal. As it’s not every night, we let this go. No need to make every meal a battle.

We also changed the kitchen doors, coincidentally, to fire-doors (loft conversion) and in fact they are excellent at keeping smells confined to the kitchen, so we use windows and the extractor fan and contain it this way. I actually can now appreciate the fact that the smells in the bedroom can be a bit rank when someone forgets to close the doors these days (slow cooking tends to lead to lingering food smells).

Edited

So you’d give him exactly what he wants and pander to his controlling behaviour?

These are awful suggestions.

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 13/10/2025 18:54

Get the selfish DH out of the dining room while you and your children eat together.
He can cook & eat whatever, whenever, & wherever.

Mydadsbirthday · 13/10/2025 18:52

buffybots · 12/10/2025 20:04

I would be ignoring him about the dining room, that’s what it’s made for FFS
he can sort his own food out, you sit and eat with the children so they get one parent modelling family meals

This post nails it I think!