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Why can’t the Israelis and Palestinians just live in peace?!!

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elprup · 11/10/2025 22:11

Surely that’s what the overwhelming majority want. Let’s face it, 99% of us just want to get on with our lives in a quiet, peaceful way and do the best for our kids. So why can’t they all just lay down the weapons and live together, in harmony? Open the borders and live as one, forging a brighter future for their kids?

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BuffaloCauliflower · 12/10/2025 09:07

pinkstripeycat · 12/10/2025 08:03

You do realise that Palestinians are displaced Jordanians. Palestine is relatively new. Also it has never been fine there. When I was a child in the 70s they were killing eachother. Everyone knows hamas are terrorists so until they go they’ll always be unrest

I’d encourage you to read the book Palestine: A 4000 year history. The area and people have been Palestine since at least the Bronze Age, though yes under repeated colonisation.

Myhometownistrumpton · 12/10/2025 09:06

maudelovesharold · 12/10/2025 08:58

That’s total bs. Most Palestinians just want to get on with their lives and bring up their families in peace, like most Israelis.
And as for the assertions made in your post, I think the boot is on the other foot. In case it’s escaped your attention, Israel has done a pretty good job of obliterating Gaza, killing tens of thousands of Palestinians in the process, and Zionists (of whom there are many in the current Israeli government) think all Palestinian land is rightfully Israel’s, and settlers are gradually rolling back the borders illegally, tacitly supported by the Israeli government and with the protection of the IDF.

It has always been Jewish land.

If it wasn't, why is the temple in Jerusalem below the Mosque?

Islam didn't arrive on the scene until the 7th Century BC.

Abraham, founder of the Jewish people was born about 1960BC. The Israelites entered the "Promised Land" about 1460 BC

justanotherpassword · 12/10/2025 09:00

Kittlewittle · 11/10/2025 23:21

Hamas has created a culture of hate and indoctrination, such that the people there do not want peace. Their charter calls for the death of all Jews worldwide.

There is a peace deal in process, but for there to be lasting peace, Gaza needs to be freed from Hamas, and a programme of deradicalisation for the population of Gaza.

Israel has also created a culture of hate. Will there be a de radicalisation of Israelis as well? Let’s not forget the illegal settlers or the right wing politicians who are determined that they have a ‘greater Israel’.

Easy to blame the other side without looking at the behaviour of everyone involved.

maudelovesharold · 12/10/2025 08:58

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That’s total bs. Most Palestinians just want to get on with their lives and bring up their families in peace, like most Israelis.
And as for the assertions made in your post, I think the boot is on the other foot. In case it’s escaped your attention, Israel has done a pretty good job of obliterating Gaza, killing tens of thousands of Palestinians in the process, and Zionists (of whom there are many in the current Israeli government) think all Palestinian land is rightfully Israel’s, and settlers are gradually rolling back the borders illegally, tacitly supported by the Israeli government and with the protection of the IDF.

Ddakji · 12/10/2025 08:45

ParmaVioletTea · 12/10/2025 03:36

Because most of the Middle East politically want to annihilate Israel, and religiously extremist Muslims want to kill every Jew in the world. Don’t underestimate the Jew hatred embedded in Islamic culture.

Isn’t one of the reasons Hamas went in when they did because Israel and various Muslim Middle Eastern and African nations had signed the Abraham Accords, and the last thing the likes of Hamas (read Iran) want is Israel and the Middle East improving relations?

Edited to add - bit like Putin going after Ukraine as Ukraine crept closer towards EU membership.

Hedjwitch · 12/10/2025 08:44

AramintaWildbloode · 12/10/2025 07:59

Men in charge.
Centuries of hurt.
Intolerant ,archaic, male dominated religion.

This.
Male dominated religions used as an excuse by other men to slaughter in the name of [ insert name of "God"]

RoseAndGeranium · 12/10/2025 08:37

HappyNewTaxYear · 11/10/2025 22:31

Israel has just dropped 200,000 tons of bombs on Gaza. There will be no peace any time soon, certainly not in our lifetimes.

Well yes, but conversely Hamas has been open about intending whenever possible to repeat the October 7th attacks, including the murder of children, rape of women, and taking of hostages as many times as they can. Gaza has been in receipt of huge amounts of financial aid over the last several decades, at some points much of it from Israel. The leadership used it to build a network of tunnels to make it easier for them to continue attacking Israel. Israeli and (much of) Palestinian culture are also seriously in conflict. Men caught having gay sex are still thrown off roofs in Palestine. Women and girls have fewer rights. Israel has unquestionably deepened many divisions in the last two years, and the government’s indulgence (or encouragement) of settlers encroaching on Palestinian land was appalling for decades prior. But let’s not pretend that this is a one-sided problem and the Palestinians are all decent people with a compatible culture who just wanted to get along and be fairly treated until Israel attacked them, because it’s demonstrably not true.

Ohthatsabitshit · 12/10/2025 08:23

The key point surely is that Palestinians (who have always been Arabs, I’m not sure why you think being Palestinians something other to that???) have always lived their not what we or anyone else calls their country. You might just as well say emirates aren’t really from the uae because it’s just a group of regions gathered under a new name. It’s rather like your saying the native Americans aren’t really important to the USA because they “don’t really exist”. Behave

Myhometownistrumpton · 12/10/2025 08:14

Strangerthanfictions · 11/10/2025 22:24

Jews and Palestinians did, until Israel was created

Palestinians didn't exist until Yasser Arafat came along.

Prior to that they saw themselves as either Arabs or Syrians.

In actual fact, the deliberate creation of the “Palestinian people” as a discrete entity in 1967, and the political group known as the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in 1964 was for the political purpose of destroying a sovereign and legally mandated Jewish state.
The whole concept of a “Palestinian people” was a political strategy invented not to build a state but to destroy a neighbouring one.

So, the term 'Palestinian' did not take on its current popular meaning until the mid-20th century and was used as a regional reference.

Till 1967, nobody had ever heard of the “Palestinians” as a people, let alone a “people” steeped in antiquity. Its subsequent use is merely a political tool to delegitimise the Jewish claim to what was left of the division of the British Mandate into two projected Arab Muslim entities and one Jewish one.

Have a look at the Palestinian flag - it is the flag of Jordan with the star removed.

Orangepate · 12/10/2025 08:08

Because it is impossible for two solid objects to occupy exactly the same space.
There are obviously complicating factors, but it’s basically just Physics!

popupjungle · 12/10/2025 08:07

Strangerthanfictions · 11/10/2025 22:24

Jews and Palestinians did, until Israel was created

Not true at all. Read some history!

idratherbedrawing · 12/10/2025 08:05

HideousKinky · 12/10/2025 03:19

I remember once hearing a talk given by a diplomat and he said it is a well-recognised problem reaching a negotiated peace in a conflict where one side is much stronger than the other - the reason being,
the weak side won't compromise because it can't afford to
and the strong side won't compromise because it doesn't have to

That is so insightful, thank you. Do you recall who said it?

And it resonates with the rationale I’ve heard in the media as why Israel supported the trump plan in recent days when they had rejected same plan by Biden a year ago - that Israel is now so diplomatically isolated it does have to

pinkstripeycat · 12/10/2025 08:03

Strangerthanfictions · 11/10/2025 22:24

Jews and Palestinians did, until Israel was created

You do realise that Palestinians are displaced Jordanians. Palestine is relatively new. Also it has never been fine there. When I was a child in the 70s they were killing eachother. Everyone knows hamas are terrorists so until they go they’ll always be unrest

RingoJuice · 12/10/2025 08:01

In short: Palestinians don’t want to give up their land; Jews don’t want to live as a minority in their own state. Not many options from there.

AramintaWildbloode · 12/10/2025 07:59

Men in charge.
Centuries of hurt.
Intolerant ,archaic, male dominated religion.

Galdownunder · 12/10/2025 07:56

NewGirlInTown · 12/10/2025 02:02

Radical Islam and anti-semitism.

Exactly. Nothing more.

TranceNation · 12/10/2025 07:54

Because religion controls people through fear and division.

Noeasyanswer · 12/10/2025 07:49

Because if the Palestinians were given equal rights to Israelis, then there would not be a Jewish majority in Israel/occupied West Bank. This is apparently unconscionable as the point of Israel is to be a jewish state.

MidnightPatrol · 12/10/2025 07:48

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Fantastically one-sided interpretation of the situation…!

The Israelis have done nothing wrong at all then, I take it?

MidnightPatrol · 12/10/2025 07:45

I can’t see how they can ever exist in peace as:
a) they fundamentally disagree over who owns the land
b) Israel keep annexing more of the land held by Palestinians

It will never stop.

Peridoteage · 12/10/2025 07:41

Because they want the exact opposite things & are both completely unwilling to compromise.

The Israelis want a particular piece of land, based on a religious definition, that happens to include bits belonging to other countries eg Lebanon. They want it all to themselves because they are terrified that their people will be eradicated, by cultural admixture if not through genocide. The government is dominated by those with extreme views.

The Palestinians want the land back that they had before the creation of the modern state of Israel and for it not to have any Jews in it. They and most of the predominantly Muslim states around them hate/resent Israelis/Jews because of a) religion and b) zionism.

How on earth can the two be reconciled when wanting that patch of land without the other group in it, is so central to what they want? They are never going to agree to share.

KimberleyClark · 12/10/2025 07:09

The last Israeli PM to achieve a peace deal with a Palestinian leader was assassinated by an Israeli extremist. Maybe Israel and Palestine would still be at peace if that hadn’t happened.

Evaka · 12/10/2025 07:06

Strangerthanfictions · 11/10/2025 22:24

Jews and Palestinians did, until Israel was created

Yep

Evaka · 12/10/2025 07:05

ChamelalaBingBong · 11/10/2025 22:25

Because the ridiculous notion of religion

Nope

Rocknrollstar · 12/10/2025 07:02

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