Ian Watkins Dead

@CrispsPlease

I have NO issue with you celebrating the death of Ian Watkins. I've said so.

I'm simply pointing out that the person who murdered him is probably also a scumbag.

Your post - in which you referred to the murderer as 'mate' and said 'have a drink on me' - gave the impression of good feelings towards the murderer as a person, rather than just the act. Perhaps you did not mean for that impression, but that's the look it gives.

It's totally fine for you to celebrate this prisoner's act of murdering Ian Watkins. I just think that referring to the murderer in a (seemingly) friendly fashion is questionable, considering the kind of person the murderer almost certainly is.

So...a male that raped a baby. A baby. has been killed by a fellow prisoner. Some of us are glad of that and voicing it.

You're choosing to pick apart my joy to learn of the killing of a baby rapist. That's your beef in all of this.

Got you.

Well of course he did. Between 1 and 2 percent of men are thought to be paedophiles (its quite hard to get a decent estimate because who is admitting to it!)

So there's all those men who died in the holocaust. And then could you add in all the soldiers who died during WW2? And what about all the potential paedofiles who werent born because of Hitler?

So by some posters logic Hitler was actually a saint and we should all raise a glass to him tonight.

I think i knew this. And i can understand why.
But I think lawlessness in prisons is not something we should be applauding however deserving the recipient of the punishment might be. It surely undermines the rule of law.

@CrispsPlease

SOME people's posts at least suggest that they're praising the murderer himself.

Many people though Hitler's intricate railway plans were genuis (albeit evil genius) doesn't mean they like him.

I know that - but the people who like Hitler's railway plans aren't referring to Hitler as "mate" and saying they hope he has a drink on them.

Tes indeed, too true. It does happen, and conditions are not ideal with overcrowding and underfunding. Keeping everyone safe is a tall order.

Be that as it may, in an ideal world it really shouldn’t happen. Convicted persons are sent to prison as punishment, not for punishment.

People are talking of the act the person committed, not the person himself. Get a bloody grip. Many people though Hitler's intricate railway plans were genuis (albeit evil genius) doesn't mean they like him. You're being so 'clever' that you're being stupid.

@CrispsPlease

I think it's a fair point though - I've no problem with you celebrating Ian Watkins' death and I completely understand you praising the prisoner for this specific action - but the fact of the matter is that this prisoner is likely a vile person who has committed horrendous crimes. The murderer could be a paedophile themselves.

Praising them for this one act is understandable, but I'm not sure the murderer should be viewed positively/charitably overall...

@CountryQueen

Yes - I can understand people praising the prisoner for this specific murder, but they shouldn't be acting as though this fellow is some great human being overall. He's probably vile, and could possibly be a child abuser himself.

Makes me wonder if Hitler had murdered a paedophile in his time, if some people would forget all of his other horrendousness.

I couldn't give a shiny shit. I know he did us all a favour and killed a rapist of a baby. That's all that matters. You can preach to someone who cares if you're banging the "human rights" drum for the monster. Because I don't care.

What offence did your “mate” who should be “proud” and who you’d like to buy a red wine for commit to get himself in a Cat A prison?

Dont be ridiculous.

I’m so happy about this news!

Good. Glad he's dead. I'm only sorry it took so long.

Hope the prisoner is proud (he should be - good on you mate! 💪) have a 🍷 from me. Good old vigilante just desserts and I don't give a shit about the wider debate of what it could be saying for society. He raped a baby.

I hope he has no funeral and gets shoved over the edge and left to rot in an unmarked grave.

I am English and understand sarcasm but the first post from OP really shocked me . Now realise that it was sarcasm but also understand that the first post could have been misinterpreted.

No worries, it happens 🙂

UK prisons are overcrowded and poorly managed. Last year sex offenders were being released early due to a lack of space. That said, you cannot be too naive about assault and murders even in the best managed prisons. It comes with the territory.

Correct I didn't read your other posts. I'm simply responding to the demeaning things you've said in your direct posts to me and a comments (within those posts) where you have referred to others....so not reading your other posts, at this point, is irrelevant.
You accuse of me of being like a dog with a bone and yet you yourself persist with this.......

I'm not "coming at you" but when you say things I disagree with and I feel are unfair then I have a right to speak my truth....(Just like you do) it

Oh no Op! You used an idiomatic expression, how could you! What boots? Fill with what? My sainted dead mother was illiterate and did not speak a word of English. How dare you!

It’s really quite appalling and worrying that prisoners can commit murder inside a prison. Something has gone seriously wrong here. People are sentenced for their crimes, they’re not meant to receive mob justice, nor be put in danger.

(That said, I doubt anyone is shedding a tear for this piece of human garbage, and may he rot in hell)

He might be a paedophile too, one that is capable of slitting someone's throat. I doubt his crime is tax evasion if he is in Monster Mansion. Regardless, he'll be given extra time, but it might be life on top of life for all we know. Sounds bloody dangerous anyway, not someone I'd want on the streets any time soon.

Irrespective of feelings on IW death, that inmate is a murderer and doesn’t deserve sympathy either

I wasn’t aware of this i was only replying to the information on that one comment.