Ian Watkins Dead

Yes, I suspect he was killed for unpaid debts. Not an execution for his crimes outside prison. But good outcome anyway.

Yeah, but his estate will still get it!

The lag who did it was almost certainly another sex offender, given that Watkins would not have been on the general wing. Do you really want to celebrate sex offenders and murderers?

Yes I read it all years ago and it honestly has never quite left me. It was horrifying.

I also just can’t fathom the mothers who enabled him to do this. They didn’t just turn a blind eye they actively took part. Cunts.

@ThatDreamyLemonBiscuit the previous stabbing of Watkins in prison was over a drug debt, or so it was reported. He paid other prisoners to keep him protected after that according to Wiki, but the first stabbing was drugs related not due to what he'd done to children.

I dont think @InterIgnis was denying Watkin's abhorrent crimes. I think she was saying that he might have been killed in prison for other reasons such as drug debt.

Ah I thought I was going mad

Fair enough! I misread/misunderstood the first post in the chain.

Don't think she's ok if I'm honest x

I was a huge LostProphtets fan, seeing them perform at Reading as the sun went down on the Sunday night remains one of the best acts I've ever seen.

Watkins made a big thing of being 'straight edge' so it was horrifying when he was convicted of these crimes. IIRC he blamed drugs, but that was clearly bullshit as he apparently described it all as 'lolz' when he was in prison.

It's rare for me to say I'm glad someone's dead but I can't shed a tear for this monster.

I’m thinking the person I was replying to actually was replying in the first place to the wrong post.

Haven’t seen anyone on this thread denying his crimes.

That post was just saying that whoever killed him probably did it for their own reasons, rather than as vengeance for his crimes. The killer could easily be a child abuser too after all.

I assumed it was true too - that he was killed for non-nonce related reasons.

He would have been quite a lucrative cash cow in prison, what with all the buying favours and protection he reportedly had to do. He could more than afford it.

Prisoners generally don't have such exorbitant sensibilities that they'd be willing to cut off a large and plentiful income stream due to moral outrage at the nature of a fellow inmate's crimes. The people who get prison napalmed will have had nothing like his personal wealth.

Did you, aye? Poor. Just poor. Embarrassed by you.

Mega Lolz 🥳

Did you reply to the wrong post before this because I don’t follow.

Can't believe we have Ian Watkins Truthers now - a man of whom there was reportedly a wealth of photographic and video evidence showing him participating in his crimes, as well as a wealth of witness evidence, and who ultimately plead guilty and then made light of his crimes.

Just to pick up on this one point, actually it can be better to know. I've lived with mental distress all my life, due to events that happened in childhood.

But when I was finally informed of a (roughly) 12 - 16 week period of extreme neglect as a newborn in between biological and adoptive parents then finally some of that distress made sense. The damage can't be undone but at last I know why the distress seems to go so deep. It was a very big piece of the jigsaw puzzle and it has helped a great deal to know what happened. It stopped me feeling there was something intrinsically wrong in me.

It also explained certain physical skin issues that according to the biological parent I wasn't born with, but adoptive parents said were present when they got me, and the issues are most likely to be the direct and lifelong aftereffects of a physical experience. For me, finding these things out has been a good thing and oddly enough, mentally freeing even though the skin problems and other distress will remain.

It's incredibly difficult to know what to say or not say for the best, and also at what point anything should be said.

I think the OP (and a few others) have made it clear it was sarcasm now though!

The sarcasm wasn't obvious at all though...
(I thought you'd got confused as to who he was)

Did you, aye?

Persistently mocking her in an an embarrassingly cringeworthy manner, with the sorts of insults that most teenagers would find embarrassingly immature, and doing a particularly witless job of it (and, hilariously, trying to hold yourself out as the adult in the exchange.

While, all the while, apparently being too stupid to follow the conversation that you're attempting to have.

Genuinely thought I mind die of secondhand embarrassment reading your halfwitted attemps at shit posting.

He got what he deserved, no doubt about it. But the 2 mothers were worse in my mind. He couldn't have done what he did without them offering their children to him. Their own babies.

I read the sentencing remarks after the court case and those women were very willing participants. Absolutely sickening.

The police also need to take some responsibility for repeatedly ignoring that woman who tried to tell them what he was doing/planning. Had they taken her seriously, he wouldnt have had the chance to abuse anyone.

So yeah, it's no loss he's dead. But he should never have had the opportunity to commit these crimes in the first place.