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To think people should just pronounce her name the way she has asked them to?

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Grandies · 11/10/2025 14:21

A few weeks ago a relatively young new employee joined my workplace, we aren’t on the same team, but we sit close together and I’ve gotten to know her quite well. She isn’t British, and she pronounces her name her slightly differently in her home language than in English. It’s not a massive difference and it’s a short name (such as it begins with E, in her language she would pronounce that “Eh” while in English the name is most commonly said with a more “ee” sound at the start) and the second syllable is pronounced the same. She still corrects people when they get it wrong and it clearly matters to her.
Last night I went to the pub with some colleagues and some people were making fun of how much she corrects people with her name (she isn’t rude it’s just if they say her name she responds with the correct pronunciation). They were also talking about the fact we have others in the world place who’s names get mispronounced and they just let it go. They also noted it’s hard as the name is pretty popular in the uk and pronounced a different way. It wasn’t a nice conversation, and it spiralled a little into stereotypes of the country etc. I called it out, noted that it was really inappropriate to talk that way about someone and left. I’m unsure as of yet if it’s worth reporting to HR.
I personally believe we should all try and pronounce peoples names as they want them to be, regardless of if they correct you or not, but especially if it’s relatively simple and they do correct you.
My husband disagrees he thinks she will need to realise sooner or later that she is in the UK now, and if her name is pronounced with the “ee” sound here she will just need to get used to it.

AIBU?

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CharlotteUnaNatalieThompson · 11/10/2025 17:40

Pronouncing someone's name the way they choose is basic respect. It's irrelevant that it's pronounced eeva not ehva in this country, if she wanted it pronounced bloody Margaret she gets to decide.

Your colleagues are either cunts, stupid, or both. And yes I think this warrants reporting to HR, especially given the additional information that this appears to be a group of men trying to keep the little women in their box

Notagain75 · 11/10/2025 17:39

I agree with you , she shouldn't just get used to it. Her name is her identity and obviously matters to her so people should make an effort to pronounce it properly especially as it isnt difficult to pronounce.
It's just rude. I'm sure your husband wouldn't be happy if he moved to another country and people insisted on saying his name as it is said in that country and not as it is actually said.

fireandlightening · 11/10/2025 17:35

Ddakji · 11/10/2025 17:32

Proper nouns (ie someone’s name) and pronouns aren’t the same thing so best not to conflate them.

Someone’s name belongs to them to spell and pronounce how they choose. Pronouns are part of language which belongs to everyone and isn’t for individuals to change the meaning of if they like

Agree with you on names.

Edited

I do know the difference between proper nouns and pronouns. We can agree to disagree on whether one is entitled to choose the pronouns they prefer or not!

Ddakji · 11/10/2025 17:32

fireandlightening · 11/10/2025 17:24

Not bothering to pronounce someone's name the way they want it pronounced, not using the pronouns they prefer, or the title (I personally hate Mrs!) they choose for themselves is disrespectful and a way of diminishing people. Some names are hard though for English folks to pronounce - so I would cut people slack as long as they make the effort.

Proper nouns (ie someone’s name) and pronouns aren’t the same thing so best not to conflate them.

Someone’s name belongs to them to spell and pronounce how they choose. Pronouns are part of language which belongs to everyone and isn’t for individuals to change the meaning of if they like

Agree with you on names.

Theyreeatingthedogs · 11/10/2025 17:31

Grandies · 11/10/2025 14:37

Thank you everyone.
It is Eva, she’s fairly young and office is still massively skewed towards men, so I sometimes wonder if that’s playing a role as no one seems to struggle with pronouncing any of the men’s names but 3 of the women (out of 10) get their names mispronounced or misspelt relatively often (such as a Sara who still seems to get called Sarah and an Abi who gets countless emails with Abby/Abbie even though her name is right in front of them, spelt for them!)

Is there a Bob involved in the misrponunciation? Change it to Boob.

HeadsWinTailsLose · 11/10/2025 17:29

I have a colleague Tanya which before I was told by her that she is Tan-ya I would have pronounced Tarn-ya. I wouldn’t dream of using the pronunciation she doesn’t like.

fireandlightening · 11/10/2025 17:24

Not bothering to pronounce someone's name the way they want it pronounced, not using the pronouns they prefer, or the title (I personally hate Mrs!) they choose for themselves is disrespectful and a way of diminishing people. Some names are hard though for English folks to pronounce - so I would cut people slack as long as they make the effort.

RitaIncognita · 11/10/2025 17:21

Algen · 11/10/2025 16:40

There’s a difference between names sounding different in different accents and deliberate mispronunciation, though.

I’m sure I don’t pronounce the name Niamh (for instance) in exactly the same way someone with an Irish accent would pronounce it, but I know enough not to call her “Niam” or rename her to “Naomi”.

Exactly. Of course, names might be pronounced a bit differently in different accents. I have a surname that has an "r" in it. I speak in a rhotic accent so I pronounce that "r" (I'm American). When I lived in the UK, I, of course, often encountered people with non-rhotic accents who didn't pronounce the "r".

That's very different from what the OP's colleague is experiencing. I imagine that all of these men can manage some approximation of the "Eh" sound in whatever their accents are.

DeanElderberry · 11/10/2025 17:19

INeedAnotherName · 11/10/2025 16:43

Nope, still don't know how it's pronounced correctly. You are assuming people know what an Irish lough sounds like or the Dutch gerdas sound.

I agree broadly that people should pronounce a name how the person wants it saying but some of us just can't. I seem to have a mental block with Mahree and Alina/Elina to the point I end up saying something completely drunk sounding. I have no idea why that happens on some names but I wish I didn't.

Dutch women I have known called Gerda have had their names pronounced by their nearest and dearest rather like 'Hedda'.

Irish Lough is very similar to Scottish Loch. And totally unlike N-E English Lough.

I'm sceptical about the mental block - I remember long ago, the English husband of one of my friends insisting he couldn't pronounce 'Niamh' because his English tongue could not make that sound, So I asked him the first name of the English Labour party leader and he managed Neil just fine.

saraclara · 11/10/2025 17:19

Manxexile · 11/10/2025 16:42

Your colleague might want to decide whether she wants to stay in the UK and have her name (Eva?) occasionally mispronounced or return to her country of origin and have it pronounced to her satisfaction (Eva?).

I have a surname that virtually no-one in the UK knows how to pronounce "correctly".

Does it bother me?

No.

Should busybodies be bothered about it?

No

Edited

But Eh-va isn't hard to pronounce. It's not unheard of here and it doesn't require familiarity with a language pronunciation or vocal sound very different from our own. I have a Slovenian friend who's name requires a rhotic and rolled 'r' in the middle. I really struggle with it and I'm pretty sure that I never get it completely right.

Eh-va isn't in that category though. It's not difficult. It's just in the same region as Sarah and Sara. They just can't be bothered, because it's 'foreign'.

LaChouette · 11/10/2025 17:19

Manxexile · 11/10/2025 16:42

Your colleague might want to decide whether she wants to stay in the UK and have her name (Eva?) occasionally mispronounced or return to her country of origin and have it pronounced to her satisfaction (Eva?).

I have a surname that virtually no-one in the UK knows how to pronounce "correctly".

Does it bother me?

No.

Should busybodies be bothered about it?

No

Edited

Wow! You really think that someone should accept her colleagues routinely mispronouncing her name or go home? What a disgusting xenophobic attitude.

It isn't occasional, it is regular and repeated from people who know her and have been told her preference. OP was absolutely spot on calling them out.

DublinLaLaLa · 11/10/2025 17:16

I worked with someone once who called me the wrong name for the entire year we worked together. Say my name is Paula. They called me Paulette. It got so ridiculous as to be almost funny by the end of their time with the company. He just couldn’t get it right!

PGmicstand · 11/10/2025 17:05

Her name is pronounced how she wishes it to be pronounced. In the same way that if someone was called Catherine and didn't want it shortened to Cathy then that should be respected.
Where she is from and where she lives now are irrelevant. She should be treated with the same consideration as anyone else. Her name should be pronounced how she asks.

CrystalShoe · 11/10/2025 17:02

That's very disrespectful of your colleagues. They should be pronouncing her name as SHE wants her OWN NAME pronounced.

It would probably make her feel more at home if her name was pronounced the way it should be. Imagine moving to a foreign country and even your name being different, as well as everything else.

Willowkins · 11/10/2025 16:59

Sorry that should say Yves

Onelifeonly · 11/10/2025 16:56

The only person I know called Eva pronounces it Eh - va as does everyone who knows her.

Of course it's fine your colleague wants her name pronounced correctly. But maybe calling others out in company comes across as rude?
Perhaps she should approach individual offenders discreetly. If she responds every time with the correct pronunciation, perhaps they see her as pedantic and are deliberately making fun of her. Not saying that's in any way OK but some groups can have bullying tendencies.

Willowkins · 11/10/2025 16:46

If she's French, then the Ee-va pronunciation would be very similar to the male equivalent, Yve. So it's like being called Paul if your name is Pauline. I'd understand if she found that offensive.

phoenixrosehere · 11/10/2025 16:46

Manxexile · 11/10/2025 16:42

Your colleague might want to decide whether she wants to stay in the UK and have her name (Eva?) occasionally mispronounced or return to her country of origin and have it pronounced to her satisfaction (Eva?).

I have a surname that virtually no-one in the UK knows how to pronounce "correctly".

Does it bother me?

No.

Should busybodies be bothered about it?

No

Edited

Her pronunciation isn’t even out of the norm. Why should she have to for the people choosing to act as if it is? Her colleagues are doing it on purpose when they know they could pronounce her name the way she has told them.

INeedAnotherName · 11/10/2025 16:43

DeanElderberry · 11/10/2025 16:12

It's pronounce Van Gogh.

I think the 'V' is slightly 'f'; the initial 'G' sound is near to 'H' (Dutch Gerdas sound a bit like Heddas) the gh is a soft guttural like the sound in an Irish Lough.

Not the usual English Van Goff or the American Van Goe.

Nope, still don't know how it's pronounced correctly. You are assuming people know what an Irish lough sounds like or the Dutch gerdas sound.

I agree broadly that people should pronounce a name how the person wants it saying but some of us just can't. I seem to have a mental block with Mahree and Alina/Elina to the point I end up saying something completely drunk sounding. I have no idea why that happens on some names but I wish I didn't.

phoenixrosehere · 11/10/2025 16:42

SprayWhiteDung · 11/10/2025 15:34

If you were a German speaker and you saw the name - and assumed that every name was pronounced according to German pronunciation rules, with no awareness of or care for people from non German-speaking countries with that or any name - you would by default.

Exactly the same way the vast, vast majority of English-speaking people do when talking about the famous composer - knowing full well that he was German - yet still always pronounce it as 'Bait-HOE-vuhn'.

You went from Vincent Van Gogh to David Hasslehoff to I’m going to guess Beethoven?

I only asked because I have never heard it said that way.

David is pronounced Dar-veet in German

I have heard David pronounced that way.

I’ve heard names pronounced in so many different ways to the point unless I have no idea who they’re talking about, I don’t question the pronunciation especially when it’s people telling me their own name.

Manxexile · 11/10/2025 16:42

Your colleague might want to decide whether she wants to stay in the UK and have her name (Eva?) occasionally mispronounced or return to her country of origin and have it pronounced to her satisfaction (Eva?).

I have a surname that virtually no-one in the UK knows how to pronounce "correctly".

Does it bother me?

No.

Should busybodies be bothered about it?

No

Algen · 11/10/2025 16:40

RafaFan · 11/10/2025 16:10

There was a post on here a few weeks ago about the name Brooke. The bearer of the name (a child) insisted it should be pronounced Bruck as that was how it sounds in her local accent, but she was now living somewhere else with a different accent. The majority of responses on that post were how you just have to suck it up if your name sounds different when said with a different accent. The opposite of most of the responses on this post. I guess in this case the perpetrators of the incorrect pronunciation have shown themselves to be dickheads in other ways (bullying behaviour) so that's why this post has gone the other way.

Edited

There’s a difference between names sounding different in different accents and deliberate mispronunciation, though.

I’m sure I don’t pronounce the name Niamh (for instance) in exactly the same way someone with an Irish accent would pronounce it, but I know enough not to call her “Niam” or rename her to “Naomi”.

Jamesblonde2 · 11/10/2025 16:35

Let her fight her own battles if she has an issue with pronunciation.

naemates · 11/10/2025 16:34

How far removed from place before this kicks in? My name is pronounced differently in England than Scotland, but I’d be asking the English person to put on a fake Scottish accent to sound like I do when I say it and I’m not sure they’d be okay with it?

Sunshineismyfavourite · 11/10/2025 16:33

So annoying that just because we are in England that everyone has to conform to the English ways, pronunciations, spellings etc. People should pronounce her name the way it should be pronounced. My DIL has a name that is spelt like an English name but pronounced slightly differently as she is not English.

Why should she have to put up with her name becoming English when it is not?

People need to stop being twats and isn't this just another form of racism as well as bullying?

Report to HR OP it's not fair on her.