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To think people should just pronounce her name the way she has asked them to?

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Grandies · 11/10/2025 14:21

A few weeks ago a relatively young new employee joined my workplace, we aren’t on the same team, but we sit close together and I’ve gotten to know her quite well. She isn’t British, and she pronounces her name her slightly differently in her home language than in English. It’s not a massive difference and it’s a short name (such as it begins with E, in her language she would pronounce that “Eh” while in English the name is most commonly said with a more “ee” sound at the start) and the second syllable is pronounced the same. She still corrects people when they get it wrong and it clearly matters to her.
Last night I went to the pub with some colleagues and some people were making fun of how much she corrects people with her name (she isn’t rude it’s just if they say her name she responds with the correct pronunciation). They were also talking about the fact we have others in the world place who’s names get mispronounced and they just let it go. They also noted it’s hard as the name is pretty popular in the uk and pronounced a different way. It wasn’t a nice conversation, and it spiralled a little into stereotypes of the country etc. I called it out, noted that it was really inappropriate to talk that way about someone and left. I’m unsure as of yet if it’s worth reporting to HR.
I personally believe we should all try and pronounce peoples names as they want them to be, regardless of if they correct you or not, but especially if it’s relatively simple and they do correct you.
My husband disagrees he thinks she will need to realise sooner or later that she is in the UK now, and if her name is pronounced with the “ee” sound here she will just need to get used to it.

AIBU?

OP posts:
RampantIvy · 11/10/2025 20:09

AgnesX · 11/10/2025 15:13

Not the thread but I always thought it was pronounced Ny omi because I've never heard it spoken. I've learned something today.

To the thread, some people might not know but those who do and don't say it properly are ignorant and mean spirited with it.

I actually know three Naomis and they are all pronounced nay-omi. I have no idea why people say ny-omi. It isn't speelled in a way to make it sound like that.

Katemax82 · 11/10/2025 20:02

I used to work with a Bulgarian girl called Milena. This one annoying woman used to always call her Melina. Used to annoy me let alone her

phoenixrosehere · 11/10/2025 19:58

LuffyMe · 11/10/2025 19:20

But where does it end? Say your name is Claire and you pronounce it as Cl-urr is someone who pronounces it Cl-air wrong?

If you pronounce your name as Cl-urr, people should ,if able, pronounce it the same way as you do because that is how you pronounce your name. That is what you call yourself and want to be called, so why should you not be if someone is able to do so?

If someone tells me their name is Cl-urr, I’m not going to tell them no, your name is Cl-air. Be a bit rude to tell someone how to pronounce their own name knowing there are other pronunciations.

Plenty of common names have more than one pronunciation.

pinkstripeycat · 11/10/2025 19:27

I know an EVlyn and an EVElyn and they both correct people all the time. People who should know how their name is pronounced. To me, they are different names so people should pronounce them properly.

My mums name is pronounced MARie (Dutch pronunciation) and people call her MArie. Same spelling. Different sound. Different name. Get it right 😊

LuffyMe · 11/10/2025 19:20

But where does it end? Say your name is Claire and you pronounce it as Cl-urr is someone who pronounces it Cl-air wrong?

Algen · 11/10/2025 19:16

I'm sure this works the other way around and there are names/words English people just can't say.

There definitely are - one that comes to mind is that I worked with someone whose name required a sound halfway between “tee” and “thee”. I could hear how it was pronounced but neither I nor any of the other English people in the team could actually make the correct sound. And a good friend of mine has a name with a rhotic “r” in the middle, which with my non-rhotic accent I simply can’t say (to be fair, she can’t pronounce my name quite correctly either as it has a sound that’s not in her native language)

Kendodd · 11/10/2025 19:02

YADNBU
Assuming the name is easy to pronounce in English. I've qualified that because some names/words are practically impossible to pronounce by speakers of different languages. Example - it is extremely difficult for Chinese people to pronounce the letter 'R' so a name like Rebecca would be just about impossible to get right. So if someone called Rebecca 'corrected' a Chinese person every time they mispronounced her name, that would be boarding on harassment imo. I'm sure this works the other way around and there are names/words English people just can't say. This doesn't sound the case here though.

TheDenimPoet · 11/10/2025 18:58

If people are mispronouncing her name, that's not her name. The girl deserves to be called by her actual name!!

INeedAnotherName · 11/10/2025 18:52

DeanElderberry · 11/10/2025 17:19

Dutch women I have known called Gerda have had their names pronounced by their nearest and dearest rather like 'Hedda'.

Irish Lough is very similar to Scottish Loch. And totally unlike N-E English Lough.

I'm sceptical about the mental block - I remember long ago, the English husband of one of my friends insisting he couldn't pronounce 'Niamh' because his English tongue could not make that sound, So I asked him the first name of the English Labour party leader and he managed Neil just fine.

Thanks for calling me a liar.

C152 · 11/10/2025 18:52

Jamesblonde2 · 11/10/2025 16:35

Let her fight her own battles if she has an issue with pronunciation.

It sounds like she is fighting her own battles. But xenophobia, sexism and bullying is something we should all stand against when we hear/see it. I think the OP did the right thing.

modgepodge · 11/10/2025 18:45

Soontobe60 · 11/10/2025 18:18

The thing with names is, it can actually be very difficult to pronounce them in a different way to what you usually hear if you have a different accent. I teach almost 100% children who have English as a second language - some can barely speak any. I have a surname that is not pronounced the way it is spelled but in the UK it’s generally pronounced correctly (by correct, I mean the way I would pronounce it). Most of my pupils cannot get their tongue around how it is pronounced. One particular class that I only teach once a week has some children with the same names, but depending on the country they were born in and their mother language, they pronounce it differently. Sometimes, I say the wrong pronunciation. Sometimes they say my name wrong, but you know what - I don’t mind. If I correct them it’s like correcting someone with a Cornish accent and expecting them to change it. It’s not easy!

Yes this is true. We had a new Indian girl join our school in y3 and everyone - kids and teachers - said it wrong for a few months until parents evening when the mum said the child’s name and it became apparent we’d all been saying it wrong. Next day teacher asked the girl to clarify how to say it and they went back and forth a few times with the teacher clearly not getting it right. Eventually another (Indian) girl in the class said ‘it’s no good Mrs X, you just haven’t got an Indian accent!’

My daughter has a French name which is now common in England. It sounds beautiful in a French accent but beyond ridiculous if I put on a French accent every time I say her name! So we use the slightly anglicised version.

howwer, the name in question is pronounced like an English word - ‘ever’ - so there’s really no excuse here.

GreenDogDot · 11/10/2025 18:37

I know three Eva’s; they are an English Ee-va, a Scandavian A-va and a Spanish Eh-va. I pronounce each in the way they introduced themselves to me, it’s a short, easy name with any pronunciation!
One of the Eva’s I work with and another colleague insists on pronouncing her name wrong almost as a badge of honour but it just makes me assume he’s a bit dim!

Jumpingthruhoops · 11/10/2025 18:33

Ordinarily, I would say people should just pronounce it how she asks them to as, in this instance, it's really just an accent thing more than anything.

However, I once went to school with someone called Penelope, who insisted her name was pronounced PeneLOPE - like rope! Given Penelop-ee is the universally accepted pronunciation, this just irritated the hell out of me!

RaraRachael · 11/10/2025 18:33

It's like the name Evelyn. In Scotland it's pronounced Evv- e-lyn whereas in England it's Eve-e-lyn.
My friend had to continually explain this when she lived in England.
Most people were fine but some would sarcastically say "Oh it's Evvvvv-e-lyn"

Some people are just twats.

Shegotanology · 11/10/2025 18:25

Those who are saying that some names are hard to pronounce are missing the point. These people are deliberately mispronouncing her name. It's rude and unnecessary.

Ddakji · 11/10/2025 18:25

fireandlightening · 11/10/2025 17:35

I do know the difference between proper nouns and pronouns. We can agree to disagree on whether one is entitled to choose the pronouns they prefer or not!

Do you think we can chop and change the meaning of adjectives too? If I insist on being referred to as tall, blonde and skinny is that OK when I’m short, brunette and fat? Demand that others call me American when in fact I’m British?

Where do you draw the line at redefining words from our common language?

Soontobe60 · 11/10/2025 18:18

The thing with names is, it can actually be very difficult to pronounce them in a different way to what you usually hear if you have a different accent. I teach almost 100% children who have English as a second language - some can barely speak any. I have a surname that is not pronounced the way it is spelled but in the UK it’s generally pronounced correctly (by correct, I mean the way I would pronounce it). Most of my pupils cannot get their tongue around how it is pronounced. One particular class that I only teach once a week has some children with the same names, but depending on the country they were born in and their mother language, they pronounce it differently. Sometimes, I say the wrong pronunciation. Sometimes they say my name wrong, but you know what - I don’t mind. If I correct them it’s like correcting someone with a Cornish accent and expecting them to change it. It’s not easy!

Grandies · 11/10/2025 18:08

LuffyMe · 11/10/2025 17:47

Do people not just accept that people of different nationalities will say their name differently?

I cannot imagine when I worked in a French speaking country running off to HR because they called me Dorro-tea and not Dorothy, or Zheem (Jim) or Eww (Huw).

I think the difference is in whether or not the sounds required exist in the language of the person saying the name. People should make their best attempt but if it’s an unfamiliar sound it may never translate fully.
Eva as she would say it though is similar sounds to ever, or even how people might say the start of the names Evangelina, Evelina, Evelyn etc. so it’s not that they can’t despite their best try pronounce the name, it is that they are actively ignoring the correct pronunciation and not even try.

OP posts:
Neemie · 11/10/2025 18:01

My name is tricky to pronounce in some countries that I have lived in. I have just gone with the local version because it makes everyone’s life easier.

I think people should try if it is important to the person, but if you know two people with different pronunciations of the same name, it is very easy to make a mistake.

Growlybear83 · 11/10/2025 17:51

I agree that people should make an effort to pronounce someone’s name properly once it’s been pointed out to them, and it’s very disrespectful not to do so. I think it’s good that you stuck up for her. But I think to report this to HR is way way over the top. If your colleague wants to do so, then it’s up to her, but it’s not your business to get involved to thst extent.

TheWonderhorse · 11/10/2025 17:48

There's a Welsh version Efa which is pronounced Eh-va. It's not hard.

LuffyMe · 11/10/2025 17:47

Do people not just accept that people of different nationalities will say their name differently?

I cannot imagine when I worked in a French speaking country running off to HR because they called me Dorro-tea and not Dorothy, or Zheem (Jim) or Eww (Huw).

Hatty65 · 11/10/2025 17:45

It would piss me off if my name was Ava - and people called me Eva.

That is effectively what they are doing. They are rude and I'd tell them so. I'd also report to HR if they can't manage to get her name right. It's subtle bullying. They would manage to get it right if she were male and their boss, presumably.

ticklyfeet · 11/10/2025 17:45

CafeDucky · 11/10/2025 14:27

I thought Elena. People are dicks

Agree, also Helen and Elaine. It’s not difficult to pronounce someone’s name when you have been told the pronunciation. Some people are deliberately obstructive. Goodness knows why, but they are out there and I’ve worked with some of them.

beAsensible1 · 11/10/2025 17:41

Onelifeonly · 11/10/2025 16:56

The only person I know called Eva pronounces it Eh - va as does everyone who knows her.

Of course it's fine your colleague wants her name pronounced correctly. But maybe calling others out in company comes across as rude?
Perhaps she should approach individual offenders discreetly. If she responds every time with the correct pronunciation, perhaps they see her as pedantic and are deliberately making fun of her. Not saying that's in any way OK but some groups can have bullying tendencies.

why would she does she need to take them off to the side and do it discreetly? It’s not offensive to correct someone on how to say your name. It’s a normal human interaction and making it whole thing telling them later makes it much bigger deal.

next they’d be saying she took them aside and gave them a telling off.

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