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Why the F should I tell BBC every year that I don’t watch TV ?

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LadyGillingham · 11/10/2025 07:49

Why can’t they upgrade their subscriptions/licencing model like Netflix etc ?

If you look at BBC corporation’s ownership, majority stakeholders are private Ltd companies and individuals. Why the f are they entitled to demand subscription fees from me for services I don’t use!

The language in the emails is quite strong, I’m sure a lot of senior citizens just pay to not get into trouble. That’s extortion!

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CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 11:19

@x2boys how many ‘’investigations’ have they started against your address? actually not you as they don’t know your name !
I must be in double figures by now 🤔

x2boys · 11/10/2025 11:16

SumUp · 11/10/2025 08:53

I pay it because although I don’t watch live TV, I appreciate all their ad free radio output and want it to continue. And I can afford to.

But it is an outdated system. An opt in system, like Netflix, would be much better.

More fool you for paying a bill that you don't need to ,would you pay for a bag of shopping you didn't need or someone else's gas bill?

scorpiogirly · 11/10/2025 11:15

Luxio · 11/10/2025 11:10

I declared I didn't need one and still get letters so personally I would bother wasting any time letting them know.

Yeah I've heard that. They're a nuisance. I don't watch live TV at all but obviously watch Netflix and YouTube.

The trouble is with this insidious company though is the goons they send around lie through their teeth and claimed they saw you watching live TV through the window etc. Horrible people.

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 11:11

@FutureMarchionessOfVidal

yeah good old ‘auntie’

it’s almost as if other streaming / pay per view / catch up as and when you want them with no adverts sometimes didn’t exist isn’t it

it is 2025 not 1955

Luxio · 11/10/2025 11:10

scorpiogirly · 11/10/2025 11:07

Cancelled mine about a year or two ago and I've had an email saying it's run our and I have to tell them again. Unsure whether to do that or ignore it.

I declared I didn't need one and still get letters so personally I would bother wasting any time letting them know.

x2boys · 11/10/2025 11:10

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 10:29

Their letters are actually comical, with a very dated looking design, with a 1980’s-esqe ‘rubber stamp ‘ with the ‘signature’ of the boss on it, like something a seven year old would knock up on the computer and they go In a cycle, such a waste of paper, it’s a shame that anyone takes them seriously.

Yeah I have hundreds of them they start off quite gently reminding you, you don't have a licence, and they get increasingly threatening promising visits etc, then the whole cycle starts again such a waste of paper.

scorpiogirly · 11/10/2025 11:07

Cancelled mine about a year or two ago and I've had an email saying it's run our and I have to tell them again. Unsure whether to do that or ignore it.

Tiredofwhataboutery · 11/10/2025 11:06

This thread has made me cancel my tv licence duevto renes at end of month genuinely tv is just used for gaming and I watch stuff on my phone ( not iplayer) I did watch sewing bee but the cost versus hours watched is really high so that’s £170 saved!

Tigerbalmshark · 11/10/2025 11:06

FutureMarchionessOfVidal · 11/10/2025 10:51

I think you will find that the very elderly often encounter certain problems listening to the radio!

No, my tv free elderly relative has never listened to BBC radio (even in the days when she could have heard it). Nor do I (I don’t have a licence either: it must run in the family).

I don’t even have a radio (just never thought of it tbh) and I have never seen one in her house.

There is a really prevalent assumption being displayed throughout this thread that tv, and the BBC in particular, is a vital integrated part of all of our lives - in particular for entertaining and educating children & consoling the elderly - and that those of us denying this must be lying, or miserable, or mistaken, or mad haired weirdos praying to a Boris Johnson shrine when not weeping over our loneliness. I find this very sad and a bit alarming. Humans lasted a long time in functioning communities without tv you know, educating children, caring for the elderly, & filling those long tv-less evening with eccentric things like having sex, reading books, and cleaning the bathroom.

Quite. I fill my long lonely nights browsing on mumsnet! 🤣🤣🤣

Honestly, DH and I work long hours, we do a lot of sports, I like reading and Duolingo, we have a social life, DS has a lot of clubs and activities, and likes playing Minecraft and various Switch games. If I do want to watch something I’d rather go to the cinema or theatre. If there is a sporting event we want to watch, we go to the pub and watch it with friends. CBeebies is a hotel/holiday/gran’s house treat for DS. We lived overseas when he was a preschooler so I promise he didn’t miss out on Numberblocks 😆

I do listen to R4 but you don’t need a licence for that. If you did, I would pay it. But I’m not paying for a tv licence when we genuinely don’t watch it.

x2boys · 11/10/2025 11:06

battairzeedurgzome · 11/10/2025 10:21

I never understand why so many people are terrified of a home visit. They just need to master a few useful phrases:

Remind me, what are your powers of entry?

Do you have a warrant?

No? Well, fuck off then.

Or just close the door on them no need to be rude.

Cookingupmyfirstbornson · 11/10/2025 11:04

Christ @Rosesfornoses why don't you just marry cbeebies if you love it so much? 🤣

LlynTegid · 11/10/2025 11:04

RoseAndGeranium · 11/10/2025 08:18

Eh? Why is it any harder or more costly for the BBC itself to keep a record of who doesn’t have to pay?

Collecting revenue is not a free exercise. Adding it as one line to another bill is much cheaper.

RoseAndGeranium · 11/10/2025 11:01

Rosesfornoses · 11/10/2025 10:42

Nobody is responding to my post about CBeebies. My five year old grandson was watching IiPlayer on his iPad in the car. He was watching g a programme about Eid. We are not Muslims or religious so it was moving to hear him enthusiastically explain Eid celebrations to me.
I am a teacher ( retired) and I so
often embedded a a short clip from one of the BBC educational programmes in
my whiteboard presentations. He was watching Something Special series I think.
I think a lot of people take this kind of provision for granted and think it gets paid for from the magic money tree.

CBeebies has great content and back when we had a tv licence it was the only thing my children were allowed to watch. Numberblocks and Alphablocks were a staple. I would love to buy these separately and would welcome a subscription model that made paying a monthly sum for children’s programming an option. I still don’t agree that the BBC should be allowed to flout its own impartiality charter whilst aggressively demanding annual declarations of non-use.

Rosesfornoses · 11/10/2025 10:59

I was on our local SACRÉ and organised many trips to religious buildings and faith communities. In many areas it can be hard to find an appropriate building and I know from my own experience that many parents will not contribute towards the cost of a trip to a religious building.. The BBC does a brilliant job of introducing faith community

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 10:53

No licence needed for radio

OswaldCobblepot · 11/10/2025 10:52

I've been getting letters about this for 4 years now. I have a TV licence but due to an issue with the address database their system thinks I don't have one. I've spoken to them about this an followed their advice but the letters continue. I've had one visit so far, no doubt they'll turn up again at some point. I'm not wasting any more of my time trying to resolve this. The letters are quite comical really.

FutureMarchionessOfVidal · 11/10/2025 10:51

GoBazGo · 11/10/2025 09:59

Do they listen to BBC radio?

I think you will find that the very elderly often encounter certain problems listening to the radio!

No, my tv free elderly relative has never listened to BBC radio (even in the days when she could have heard it). Nor do I (I don’t have a licence either: it must run in the family).

I don’t even have a radio (just never thought of it tbh) and I have never seen one in her house.

There is a really prevalent assumption being displayed throughout this thread that tv, and the BBC in particular, is a vital integrated part of all of our lives - in particular for entertaining and educating children & consoling the elderly - and that those of us denying this must be lying, or miserable, or mistaken, or mad haired weirdos praying to a Boris Johnson shrine when not weeping over our loneliness. I find this very sad and a bit alarming. Humans lasted a long time in functioning communities without tv you know, educating children, caring for the elderly, & filling those long tv-less evening with eccentric things like having sex, reading books, and cleaning the bathroom.

whatwouldafeministdo · 11/10/2025 10:49

Whammyyammy · 11/10/2025 10:24

Letters straight in the bin. Ignore capita visits. If you answer the door, jusr close it.
Quite simple

Good advice. But if you're an elderly person living alone, it can be very intimidating.

Rosesfornoses · 11/10/2025 10:49

My grandchildren are not allowed to watch YouTube etc. Their parents do allow CBeebies and CBBC. It is a life saver. Hate to think it will disappear in the future

whatwouldafeministdo · 11/10/2025 10:48

Tigerbalmshark · 11/10/2025 10:44

You can ignore it. They will send a series of increasingly hysterical letters and then… nothing happens. They just cycle round with the letters again.

I never responded, because the options on the form all seemed designed to try to trick you into admitting you needed a tv licence. There was no “I don’t have a tv and don’t watch any tv in any form whatsoever” option, it was all “I have a tv but don’t watch the bbc” or “I only watch live tv on my computer”. So I ignored it, and all bin the letters. They can come round if they want, because I don’t have a tv. But they never have.

Yes, the language is clearly designed to catch people out, it isn't plain English and will be difficult for many to understand.

whatwouldafeministdo · 11/10/2025 10:46

Rosesfornoses · 11/10/2025 10:42

Nobody is responding to my post about CBeebies. My five year old grandson was watching IiPlayer on his iPad in the car. He was watching g a programme about Eid. We are not Muslims or religious so it was moving to hear him enthusiastically explain Eid celebrations to me.
I am a teacher ( retired) and I so
often embedded a a short clip from one of the BBC educational programmes in
my whiteboard presentations. He was watching Something Special series I think.
I think a lot of people take this kind of provision for granted and think it gets paid for from the magic money tree.

The BBC has presided over several serious safeguarding failures. Savile being the tip of the iceberg. There is plenty of alternative great provision.

Our school actually visits local synagogues, mosques etc. I think it's far better for it to be rooted in the local community rather than whatever the BBC thinks is correct.

They once had an article describing 14 year old victims of rape and child sex trafficking as 'sex workers'. I don't want my daughters being taught that shite by the BBC. Complained and got the brush off.

Longnightsshortdays · 11/10/2025 10:46

Unacceptableinthe80s · 11/10/2025 10:04

'anti BBC campaigning', 'politically motivated' ?
You might want to check your paranoia.
Just a bunch of people discussing their actual lived experiences of bullying and harassment from the corporation that is the BBC. If it wasn't true there'd be nothing to discuss would there?
They are a disgrace, doesn't matter which way you look at it.

I must say you made me laugh when you accuse me of paranoia and then go on to talk about the BBC " bullying and harrassing" you. That sounds just like paranoia to me!

And you go on to talk about the need to " discuss" what you perceive to be going on but try and shut down anyone who doesn't feed into your narrative. Not much of a discussion if you just want to hear from people who agree with your view point.

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 10:46

@HelpMeGetThrough

terrifying 🤣🤣🤣

Why the F should I tell BBC every year that I don’t watch TV ?
HelpMeGetThrough · 11/10/2025 10:44

Seeingadistance · 11/10/2025 10:42

My aunt and uncle never had a tv and regularly were visited by the “detector van”. Quite was it was detecting was a mystery as they had neither tv nor an aerial. That was in the 70s and 80s.

They weren’t detecting anything, the vans were empty. 🤣

Tigerbalmshark · 11/10/2025 10:44

DaisyChain505 · 11/10/2025 07:53

Yes you do. I received my email yesterday asking if I still didn’t need a tv licence.

You can ignore it. They will send a series of increasingly hysterical letters and then… nothing happens. They just cycle round with the letters again.

I never responded, because the options on the form all seemed designed to try to trick you into admitting you needed a tv licence. There was no “I don’t have a tv and don’t watch any tv in any form whatsoever” option, it was all “I have a tv but don’t watch the bbc” or “I only watch live tv on my computer”. So I ignored it, and all bin the letters. They can come round if they want, because I don’t have a tv. But they never have.

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