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Why the F should I tell BBC every year that I don’t watch TV ?

338 replies

LadyGillingham · 11/10/2025 07:49

Why can’t they upgrade their subscriptions/licencing model like Netflix etc ?

If you look at BBC corporation’s ownership, majority stakeholders are private Ltd companies and individuals. Why the f are they entitled to demand subscription fees from me for services I don’t use!

The language in the emails is quite strong, I’m sure a lot of senior citizens just pay to not get into trouble. That’s extortion!

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Seeingadistance · 11/10/2025 10:42

HelpMeGetThrough · 11/10/2025 10:27

Do they still do the old threat of “we picked up signals from your property”?

Did you hell as like matey, you didn’t, because you can’t.

My aunt and uncle never had a tv and regularly were visited by the “detector van”. Quite was it was detecting was a mystery as they had neither tv nor an aerial. That was in the 70s and 80s.

Rosesfornoses · 11/10/2025 10:42

Nobody is responding to my post about CBeebies. My five year old grandson was watching IiPlayer on his iPad in the car. He was watching g a programme about Eid. We are not Muslims or religious so it was moving to hear him enthusiastically explain Eid celebrations to me.
I am a teacher ( retired) and I so
often embedded a a short clip from one of the BBC educational programmes in
my whiteboard presentations. He was watching Something Special series I think.
I think a lot of people take this kind of provision for granted and think it gets paid for from the magic money tree.

CalzoneOnLegs · 11/10/2025 10:29

Their letters are actually comical, with a very dated looking design, with a 1980’s-esqe ‘rubber stamp ‘ with the ‘signature’ of the boss on it, like something a seven year old would knock up on the computer and they go In a cycle, such a waste of paper, it’s a shame that anyone takes them seriously.

Luxio · 11/10/2025 10:28

battairzeedurgzome · 11/10/2025 10:21

I never understand why so many people are terrified of a home visit. They just need to master a few useful phrases:

Remind me, what are your powers of entry?

Do you have a warrant?

No? Well, fuck off then.

I think some posters are forgetting not everyone these bullies will visit is a confident individual with the ability to make themselves clearly understood. It's very easy to say you shouldn't be terrified when you know they are powerless, unfortunately not everyone knows they have no authority.

HelpMeGetThrough · 11/10/2025 10:27

Do they still do the old threat of “we picked up signals from your property”?

Did you hell as like matey, you didn’t, because you can’t.

Whammyyammy · 11/10/2025 10:27

whatwouldafeministdo · 11/10/2025 09:58

That's not what the letters say. They say I have to make a declaration stating I'm not watching TV or get endlessly hassled and threatened (basically).

Don't open the letters then. Either bin them or return to sender.
Capital have zero powers. Engaging with theses idiots confirms your name to the address.

Whammyyammy · 11/10/2025 10:24

GinaDav · 11/10/2025 09:36

Yes it is. Otherwise you start getting bombarded with letters and threats to turn up to check you aren’t watching a television.

Letters straight in the bin. Ignore capita visits. If you answer the door, jusr close it.
Quite simple

Thatmoves · 11/10/2025 10:23

BettysRoasties · 11/10/2025 07:57

We have had two letters this year that we must update our do we need one or not. Inaction led to the second letter.

How did you “tell” the BBC you didn’t need one?

HelpMeGetThrough · 11/10/2025 10:21

ItIsNotTheDog · 11/10/2025 10:19

I wonder who the person is that works for the BBC and has to send out all these letters etc

A shite bit of software developed by Capita.

battairzeedurgzome · 11/10/2025 10:21

GinaDav · 11/10/2025 09:36

Yes it is. Otherwise you start getting bombarded with letters and threats to turn up to check you aren’t watching a television.

I never understand why so many people are terrified of a home visit. They just need to master a few useful phrases:

Remind me, what are your powers of entry?

Do you have a warrant?

No? Well, fuck off then.

ItIsNotTheDog · 11/10/2025 10:19

I wonder who the person is that works for the BBC and has to send out all these letters etc

Rosesfornoses · 11/10/2025 10:12

This is a parenting website. So many people are so anti children's provision on here. Think of the wonderful job George Webster does as a BBC presenter. I am proud as a grandparent and very old person to contribute to first class educational tv for children.

whatwouldafeministdo · 11/10/2025 10:10

It is shameful the way the BBC behaves.

I agree with all the comments about elderly people and this assumption the TV is some substitute for human connection. It's not, and in some cases is actively damaging.

I have an elderly relative who has dementia. Whilst still at home, she watched TV and it caused serious mental health issues - she couldn't understand the murder mysteries weren't real and started getting paranoid about people wanting to kill her or things she'd seen on the news. If she'd been on her own with carers only coming in occasionally they may not have picked up on this and the risk to her and others her watching the TV posed. In the nursing home she is now in, they rarely watch TV (and they have carers monitoring what they do watch). Mostly they play music, and the staff and patients chat and it's a lovely family atmosphere. They have lots of activities too.

Unacceptableinthe80s · 11/10/2025 10:04

Longnightsshortdays · 11/10/2025 08:33

Well I admit the BBC isn't the great institution that it once was.
And a lot of it's problems actually stem under funding. As well as political interference.

But it still fulfills a very important function. And it would be a sad loss.

I find all this anti BBC campaigning very disturbing.The absolute outrage about being asked if you need a TV licence would be almost laughable if didn't seem so politically motivated.

Edited

'anti BBC campaigning', 'politically motivated' ?
You might want to check your paranoia.
Just a bunch of people discussing their actual lived experiences of bullying and harassment from the corporation that is the BBC. If it wasn't true there'd be nothing to discuss would there?
They are a disgrace, doesn't matter which way you look at it.

Seeingadistance · 11/10/2025 10:01

Longnightsshortdays · 11/10/2025 08:33

Well I admit the BBC isn't the great institution that it once was.
And a lot of it's problems actually stem under funding. As well as political interference.

But it still fulfills a very important function. And it would be a sad loss.

I find all this anti BBC campaigning very disturbing.The absolute outrage about being asked if you need a TV licence would be almost laughable if didn't seem so politically motivated.

Edited

I assume you’ve never cancelled your TV licence and then received letters which have an increasingly threatening tone and content. Their starting point is clearly that you are a liar, and that in itself is offensive and unusual. When I cancel other subscriptions they either accept it or try to persuade me to return with freebies. They don’t keep telling me that I’m wrong and basically coerce and bully me into returning.

GoBazGo · 11/10/2025 09:59

RoseAndGeranium · 11/10/2025 09:53

Thank you for articulating this so clearly. I agree wholeheartedly. We have elderly neighbours in our village with no tv and no interest in a tv. They have a busier social life than we do, certainly, with young kids. I find the idea that all old people are dependent on the tv for all their entertainment utterly patronising and depressing.

Do they listen to BBC radio?

whatwouldafeministdo · 11/10/2025 09:58

Notmyreality · 11/10/2025 09:45

This.

That's not what the letters say. They say I have to make a declaration stating I'm not watching TV or get endlessly hassled and threatened (basically).

Achewyhamster · 11/10/2025 09:58

Way back when I was young (early 80's) I lived with my grandad (who was a frail old man)
Not only did we not watch the BBC,we didnt actually have a TV
Every friday,without fail,a huge bloke would come round,demand to know why we didnt have a licence and would refuse to take our word for it that we didnt have a TV
He would push past us,take a good look round then leave
Following friday,same thing-this must have gone on for a few years-every friday without fail (if we didnt open the door,they would start hammering on the windows)
I let slip to my father about this and I guess he rang my grandad and was told what was happening
He was so angry and wrote to someone (no idea who) and I don't know what was said but they never came round again
I bet if grandad had been a tough bodybuilder and not a frail old man,they would have taken our word for it

And that was the 80's-its shameful it's still going on

Edited for typos

Sesma · 11/10/2025 09:56

Rosesfornoses · 11/10/2025 09:52

Please tell me truthfully @Sesma that you have never let your children or grandchildren watch CBEEBIES

I have a licence, I'm here moaning about it because of my late parents getting the letters.

whatwouldafeministdo · 11/10/2025 09:55

LadyGillingham · 11/10/2025 07:49

Why can’t they upgrade their subscriptions/licencing model like Netflix etc ?

If you look at BBC corporation’s ownership, majority stakeholders are private Ltd companies and individuals. Why the f are they entitled to demand subscription fees from me for services I don’t use!

The language in the emails is quite strong, I’m sure a lot of senior citizens just pay to not get into trouble. That’s extortion!

I agree 100%. The level of information they want about me is intrusive.

I also think they're discriminating against elderly people who are vulnerable. Agree it's extortion- they list all the sanctions for 'breaking the law' as if loads of laws aren't being broken all the time with fuck all consequence, like burglary and rape, but yes let's try and scare the law abiding elderly into giving us money.

Apparently you can do this if you have the establishment behind you. It should be criminal.

Sesma · 11/10/2025 09:55

I have a licence anyway as I pay for Sky, all the streamers and no ads so I may as well have BBC and live telly as well but it annoys me that my father got lots of letters and also my mother did after she died and the house was empty, I did ring up and complain about my late DM getting letters.

RoseAndGeranium · 11/10/2025 09:53

FutureMarchionessOfVidal · 11/10/2025 09:23

This made me laugh! (Trying to imagine moving a tv into her home & the reaction.)

But seriously I think this idea that tv (BBC or otherwise) is something you necessarily ‘enjoy’ in old age, or that it addresses isolation in the very elderly, is symptomatic of a real wider social malaise that downplays reading and thought and real human contact compared to figures on a screen.

Despite being so old, my relative continues to have good social contacts- I am amazed actually by the number of visitors she has each week. People are so kind! The idea that she has anything to gain in social terms by looking at a screen, at images of people she will never meet, who will never speak to her or care for her or make a joke to her or bring her a slice of cake, is a sad one.

Thank you for articulating this so clearly. I agree wholeheartedly. We have elderly neighbours in our village with no tv and no interest in a tv. They have a busier social life than we do, certainly, with young kids. I find the idea that all old people are dependent on the tv for all their entertainment utterly patronising and depressing.

Rosesfornoses · 11/10/2025 09:52

Please tell me truthfully @Sesma that you have never let your children or grandchildren watch CBEEBIES

Sesma · 11/10/2025 09:50

It's only TV licensing that can get a search warrant through a magistrate so they are not going to be getting many of them. People need to make themselves aware of the procedures instead of cowering at the door.

Rosesfornoses · 11/10/2025 09:50

And I did query my friend who claimed to watch no BBC when her kids were deep in Number Blocks. She giggled and claimed she didn't really think childrens tv counted.

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