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AIBU to send my little one to a "rich" school?

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kisaki333 · 10/10/2025 17:21

First, please don't flame me for this, this not a rich vs poor discussion. Just looking for some perspective as I am a first time parent and didn't go to school in the uk so this is all new to me. I want to choose the best option for my DD as she is starting reception next year.

All the primary schools in our area are ok, rated good by ofsted.
The school closest to us is a small one (only 1 class per year). My little one goes to nursery there and is happy. However I noticed most of the parents seem not that affluent let's say. Even in the official statistics over 40% of the children qualify for free meals which i think means on benefits. Not an issue in itself but for example there are no school trips as the parents can't afford them. Only minimal after school or extra curriculars, again as parents can't afford them.
School itself also seems to struggle financially, they can't afford a substitute teacher if someone calls in sick, for example.
Still, I like this school as the staff seem passionate(most of the teachers are young) and nurturing. My little one is a sensitive soul so probably would do better in a small setting.

On the other hand, there's a school in a more affluent part of town. It would mean we need to drive there and the traffic and parking are bad . But their PTA pays for many things, like a few years ago they got a pool installed. Loads of extracurriculars and facilities. They are a bigger school (2 classes each year) and feels a bit impersonal. Staff didn't strike me as passionate but then i only saw them a bit during a tour so not much interaction.

My little one would essentially be ok in both. But she is ahead academically so i worry in the "poor" school she won't be challenged enough as there's no resources for that. Yes, I can pay separately for football or ballet or whatever but the logistics of doing that outside of the school seems exhausting to me.

If you could get into either, which would you pick and why? I am slightly leaning towards the "rich" school so :
YABU - pick the small poor school as it's closer and they care.
YANBU - pick the large rich school as the academics and opportunities offered are more important

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Iwantmyoldnameback · 10/10/2025 20:11

Why not move nearer the "rich" school? If you can't afford to then your child could find themselves the poor pupil and thats not nice.

SpackelFrog · 10/10/2025 20:04

We are an affluent area and our state primary is wonderful for well behaved middle class children that will easily get into grammar schools.

Awful for SEN children, it’s almost like they don’t bother as they know parents will do all the leg work to get them into a different school 😑

justasmalltownmum · 10/10/2025 19:59

2 classes per year is a big school? Wow our local one is 4 classes per year in primary. And 6 in secondary.

Freshstartyear25 · 10/10/2025 19:58

I will go to the bigger school mainly because as time goes on, being limited to having no after school care or wrap around care would be a logistical nightmare with work. I can see why if the school is small, doing these thing might not be budget friendly if less people subscribe to it so I’ll go for the bigger school for that reason alone really but the distance is a lot

Hairyfairy01 · 10/10/2025 19:56

Passionate staff, an easier journey and already being in the school nursery, so presumably having at least some children move up with her, would win for me. I wouldn’t overthink the extracurricular stuff, I should think you are lucky enough to be able to give your child some lovely opportunities such as zoo trips, swimming etc anyway. Mixing with children from different backgrounds is likely to benefit her in the furture.

kisaki333 · 10/10/2025 19:51

@FuzzyWolfi understand that. But that's the thing, i would be willing to give some money each month for the school to benefit and indirectly my child. But if no other parents can afford similar, my contribution would be almost worthless. Now imagine 100/month from each parent. How many things could be done with that! I'm not saying that's how much parents do contribute in the "rich" school, but I get the feeling many of them could do that easily. Whereas in the poor school, no way that's an option for most parents. So it's not so much the funding the school has, it's what the parents can and do give extra.
To give you an idea, the small school had a Macmillan coffee type of fundraiser recently. They managed under £130 across the entire school. I found that really low, especially since £10 of that was from me!

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MonGrainDeSel · 10/10/2025 19:45

ButterPiesAreGreat · 10/10/2025 19:02

The national average of FSM in England is just under 26%.

Yes, I know. But I don't know what the situation is where OP lives. It may be very different from nationally.

EatMoreChocolate44 · 10/10/2025 19:32

Why don't you try the 'poor' school and then you can change in the future if needs be. My daughter changed schools in P3 (Northern Ireland). I'm a primary school teacher and she originally went to my school but the travel and longer days were a lot. She now goes to a school that is 10mins walk away and all her wee friends live close by. My son goes there too and I've made friends with the mums who also live close by making playdates, barbeques, parties etc super handy. From my experience with new kids starting in my class, they settle in and transition usually quickly and easily (I teach P2).

FuzzyWolf · 10/10/2025 19:25

their PTA pays for many things this means the parents pay for it.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 10/10/2025 19:11

Go to the closer school. 15 mins drive + 15 mins walk sounds exhausting!

As for accomodating extra curriculars, you may find that many of them move to Saturday mornings for school age children. Reception is exhausting for the first term at least, so you may want to cut back for a bit anyway.

ButterPiesAreGreat · 10/10/2025 19:02

MonGrainDeSel · 10/10/2025 17:52

But it might not actually be the better school, or even the better school for the OP's child. If the SATs results and Ofsted are similar, the poorer school must be doing an amazing job.

@kisaki333 what is the percentage of FSM at the richer school? And what's the average locally?

The national average of FSM in England is just under 26%.

Overthebow · 10/10/2025 18:53

I’d go for the bigger school. I think money does have an impact on schools. The primary my DC goes to is in an affluent area, they get to go on trips to science museums, school discos with hired entertainers, lots of clubs, large selection of reading books to take home, no shortage of resources, good teachers, and they get a lot of money from PTA fundraising, it paid for all new IT equipment and play equipment for the playground last year. Some of the schools in other areas near here don’t get some of this.

Sandy483 · 10/10/2025 18:53

I disagree with most people, for a sensitive child I think a smaller school is often easier - and caring, passionate staff are pretty much the most important factor there is IMO! It's also really nice to have the option to walk to school and all her friends are likely to live nearer.

She probably won't want to go to after school clubs when she first starts anyway but when she does the chances are that the things she'd like to do might not be offered anyway. DS went to a tiny school and they still managed to offer several clubs, Ofsted would not be impressed if they didn't!

Differentiation just requires a good teacher to put in the work, it doesn't need loads of resources. Making sure she is stretched academically will come down to individual teachers rather than how much money is available.

Autisticburnouthell · 10/10/2025 18:38

Schools get additional funding of £1.5k per FSM pupils. The school with additional FSM pupils will have more money.

POTC · 10/10/2025 18:34

The lack of resources and no substitute teachers has nothing to do with the demographic of the families. Schools are funded per pupil. Less pupils, less funding. Some things don't cost double just because you have double the students. For example, they won't have double the number of toilets or kitchen staff, more maybe but not double. Highly unlikely they have double the office staff. The extra money is then available to use elsewhere in the school.
You'll have to decide which is right for you and your child, small with less opportunities and you maybe do more out of school yourself, or bigger and impersonal so you maybe feel she is less supported. I'd say if that's how it felt when you visited it would be a no for me. Two class entry isn't that big really, there are bigger, so it shouldn't feel impersonal. The PTA shouldn't need to fund things, and you can't rely on that. Next year they might all leave then there's nothing!

Sirzy · 10/10/2025 18:24

We try to avoid using supply teachers if we can, not for budget reasons but for consistency for the children. If we can cover from within with staff who know the children then we will.

Worriedalltheday · 10/10/2025 18:23

I disagree with the sentiment that a child who is academically bright will flourish anywhere. Not given the right environment will make that child struggle to actually succeed, given the challenges that state schools face today.
i would choose the second, bigger school. It’s not only about the academics, it’s about the entire school experience.

Pancakeflipper · 10/10/2025 18:19

Sorry ignore missed your later post..

Which school is your catchment school?
You may not have a choice in schools..

If it is 'poor school, check if the 'rich' school is oversubscribed. If so, then you are not likely to get a place being out of catchment.

JLou08 · 10/10/2025 18:19

How do you know the school can't afford a substitute teacher?
This all seems odd to me. I've worked in schools. FSM children get more funding and that makes up more than what a PTA does in my area. The extra-curricular activities were always run by school staff anyway and weren't chargeable. It may be different where you are looking but unless you are certain don't be assuming dance club at school would be anything like ballet at a dance school. They also all had trips, including residential trips and even trips abroad.

TheNightingalesStarling · 10/10/2025 18:17

School based extracurricular don't really replace out of school extracurricular.

They are usually short sessions, happening for a few weeks, having waiting lists etc. Good for trying something new but not an in depth experience for a keen child. Its not something to base a decision on really.

Its an awkward question really because while it shouldn't make a difference, the demographic of families does effect a school ethos. A school can be fantastic for all sorts of reasons but its only really beneficial if those reasons match your needs.

NCJD · 10/10/2025 18:14

Doing extracurriculars outside school would be exhausting for the little one, not for me

While this may be the case now, it probably won’t be so much of an issue in a few of years. Both of mine were shattered after a day of pre school. Both of them have just spent the last 2 hours charging round soft play with their friends without issue.

Unless a school was dire, I’d personally always go for a school I can walk to. I think it’s so important for health and community. Going with that logic (alongside being very impressed with the senior management team and their approach to both behaviour and inclusivity and flexible wrap around care), in a similar situation to you we went for the school with a much higher % of FSMs. No regrets. Despite the SATs results being not quite so good, my kids love it and are thriving. This: The bigger one is 10-15mins drive and then probably a 10-15 min walk/cycle as there's nowhere to park around there would be my idea of hell every morning for the next 7 years.

Only you know what your priorities are though.

CorneliaCupp · 10/10/2025 18:04

coxesorangepippin · 10/10/2025 17:46

Of course you should send your child to the rich school, if you can

We aiming high for our kids, aren't we

How is the rich school 'aiming high'?

YourPeppyAmberTraybake · 10/10/2025 18:04

Don’t rule out extra curricular activities that aren’t run by the school. As she gets a bit older she may want to do tennis, ballet, drama etc.

RedwallMattimeo · 10/10/2025 17:58

The finances may not be as clear cut as you think. If more pupils are on FSM, they will have pupil premium which means the school gets additional funding for them. Whilst that funding is designed to be spent on the pupils who benefit from it, how that is interpreted can vary. For example, it may be that, if there are several children, the money is pooled together and used to pay for an additional TA in a class. Or it may be that it actually pays for those children to go on school trips or participate in enrichment activities meaning that that school actually provides more than a school where parents are in the position where they don’t qualify for FSM but are not affluent enough to pay for school trips, ballet lessons etc themselves.

Do bear in mind, too, that after school activities provided by the school are rarely at such a high standard as external
clubs. For example, at my DC’s school, “dance” was offered and they did a different style of dance each term but it was very generic. It wasn’t comparable to the ballet, tap, modern etc lessons offered by outside providers. Similarly, the KS2 children could do a sports club most days after school but the coach was the same teacher every day & for every sport. The level
of coaching just couldn’t be as good as external providers. Many kids did a mix of school clubs and out of school clubs so you still have the logistical issue. Plus there are the simple facts that your child might not get a space in the school club or might not like the teacher running it and so on.
That said, I would always go for a two form entry school over a one form entry school just because there is more variety. There are 59 other children for your child to find a friend amongst rather than 29.

kisaki333 · 10/10/2025 17:54

Thanks to all that responded so far.
To answer some questions that came up:
Yes, we are in the catchment for both and can get into both based on previous years.

The small school is 5 mins by car or 20 mins walk/cycling (15 mins for me) .
The bigger one is 10-15mins drive and then probably a 10-15 min walk/cycle as there's nowhere to park around there.

Dont have and not planning on other children so I need to get this one right 🥰

Doing extracurriculars outside school would be exhausting for the little one, not for me. She'd finish school then either home for a little while and then off we go to some activity that's 20 mins drive or straight to another activity. Either way her "decompress time" is disrupted. If the activity is in the school, right after school, it's more seamless ( and of course a bit easier for me, but that isn't a deciding factor)

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