Men violently preventing women from congregating, communicating and networking, is what the Taliban do. Why is it happening in the UK?

There was a judgement yesterday about the right to shock and offend. A man who burned a copy of the Q’ran (sp?) was cleared because the judge explicitly said that the right to freedom of speech includes the right to shock and to offend. I think people like Berry, and the “protesters”, should think about that.

If you can’t argue your case, and you have to resort to preventing the other side from making their arguments, perhaps you should consider whether your case is actually that logical/rational/reasonable after all.

This is so silly.

I'd also like to reiterate that this is not a left wing thing - you cannot get further right wing than a group who want to take rights away from 51% of society.

We need to stop enabling their division of the left.

I'd also like to reiterate that this is not a left wing thing - you cannot get further right wing than a group who want to take rights away from 51% of society.

We need to stop enabling their division of the left.

More intimidation from the aggressive men. And the police are doing feck all again.

It's quite a sight to behold isn't it? It's to be expected that various randoms on the internet will minimise VAWG. But to see an elected MP stating that Brighton should be a no go area for women to meet is quite something.
As ever it shows how immensely powerful and influential these people are. They can get an MP to make such an anti democratic, anti woman statement without any self awareness of the implications

Another once respected public servant beclowned by their adherence to this ideology.

Here is the HM Prison Service 2023 stats on rates of sexual offending.

As you can see trans identified men are up to 5 times more likely to be in prison for sexual offenses than other men.

It's quite a sight to behold isn't it? It's to be expected that various randoms on the internet will minimise VAWG. But to see an elected MP stating that Brighton should be a no go area for women to meet is quite something.
As ever it shows how immensely powerful and influential these people are. They can get an MP to make such an anti democratic, anti woman statement without any self awareness of the implications

Another once respected public servant beclowned by their adherence to this ideology.

It is not a left-wing problem. E.g. the Communist Party (surely left !) and many in the Labour Party definitely don't believe men can be women. They think it's organised to split the working class ( ditto racism), it's unity being the biggest threat the 'elite' face.

Thanks for this, do you have a source I can use? Or if anyone else knows the source for the percentage of tm in prison with these convictions ?

Why all these posts justifying male violence? Is it in every situation where you agree men will get angry so just expect it or just this one?

Violence and vandalism are unacceptable and of course illegal but describing this as terrorism is a stretch. And this is nothing like life under the Taliban, where rape and violence against women in their own homes is considered perfectly acceptable. Let's keep things in perspective.

We have many years of evidence now that the violence and aggression in this debate comes from one side only.

Men who identify as women still behave like men. In fact over 70% of the transwomen currently in prison in the UK have convictions for rape, sexual assault and other violent crime.

It's not really surprising that most women don't want to share changing rooms with these men.

They are left wing when the left pander to them and the right wants to protect women and girls (when it comes to this subject - not others).

The right’s motivations may not be championing women and girls but they aren’t the ones calling for men in women’s space. We need to accept this is a left wing problem.

No, Brighton is not their backyard.

Well, it's great that you think that, but you know full well what Brighton's reputation is when it comes to LBGTQ ete etc. It has the largest non-straight population in the UK. If it's not their backyard, then they don't have one 🤷🏻‍♂️

No, they don’t have a reason to be angry.

Unfortunately you don't get to tell people what they can or can't get angry about.

If a violent male gets angry and beats up his wife, does it mean he has a reason and we just don’t agree with him???

Yes? An awful and unjustifiable reason. Almost everything we do happens for a reason, or we wouldn't do it.

Just because those people were violent and vandalised public property, does not mean they have a reason.

Reasons aren't just things you think are morally correct.

A female MP trying to justify violence against women

How bloody depressing

Interesting that they have moved from noise and intimidation - sometimes physical assault - of women to vandalism. Because recent history suggests that police stand about like lemons when women are being intimidated, so that’s worked pretty well for the misogynists; however, the police can be less inert when it comes to vandalism in public spaces. Perhaps they have better / clearer instructions from the higher ups.

The comfort I get from this is that the women might be in less danger, and misogynist activists are slightly more likely to find themselves facing legal consequences. Is it an extinction burst? I am hoping so.

Yes nothing like smashing things up and ruining the FILIA conference to show us how vulnerable they are. Entitled, male assholes. I hope they get arrested.

Sian Berry and a few pps here seem to think Brighton belongs to violent thugs and is a no-go area for women.
https://x.com/sianberry/status/1976671744292438483

I don't find it funny. I'm just not scared of people with signs exercising their right to express their views. And if I believe in something, or disagree with something strongly enough, I will - and have, many times - get out into the thick of it and made my voice heard.

Are you going to Brighton tomorrow to stand up to these bullies and show them that their tactics aren't working?

A feminist conference is not trans women’s backyard.

Brighton, basically the UK's capital of inclusivity, is their 'backyard'. It's the equivalent of holding a Ranger's fan club meeting in the carpark of Celtic's ground.

It is about women and for women. Nothing to do with men identifying as women. If they want to be represented and to be heard, they have to organise their own conference.

I agree. But the way protesting works is that those who don't agree try to disrupt the thing they don't agree with.

So no, they have no reason to be angry.

Who are you (or any of us) to decide what people should or shouldn't get angry about? They quite obviously do have their reasons, you just don't agree with them.